[Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice new lists

2005-10-11 Thread Scott Fisher



FYI
Saw this on their site:

adult.rhs.mailpolice.com 
- adult-oriented sites (new) 
redir.rhs.mailpolice.com 
- website redirectors (new) 




Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-17 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Glen Harvy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,

 Is anyone using mailpolice and if so what details are required in the
 global.cfg file?

See http://rhs.mailpolice.com/usage.php.  Here is an example of how to setup
the MailPolice Block list as an RHSBL type test in the global.cfg.

MAILPOLICE-BLOCK rhsbl block.rhs.mailpolice.com  127.0.0.2 5 0

Block is a combination list, including the bulk and porn lists.

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-17 Thread Scott Fisher
You can also use their rev dns list:
MAILPOLICE-REVDNS   dnsbl   %REVDNS%.dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 
127.0.0.2   50  0


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From: Glen Harvy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:56:07 +1100

Hi,

Is anyone using mailpolice and if so what details are required in the
global.cfg file?
_
Glen Harvy
Aquarius Communications
for all your Internet Needs.
Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-17 Thread Bill Landry
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From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You can also use their rev dns list:
 MAILPOLICE-REVDNS dnsbl   %REVDNS%.dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 50
0

Hmmm, do you actually catch anything with this test?  And why would you go
through the trouble of setting it this way?  Since this is a classic RHS
test, why wouldn't you just set it up like:

MAILPOLICE-DYNA rhsbl dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0

They also have a fraud list that will help catch phish type e-mails:

MAILPOLICE-FRAUD rhsbl fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-17 Thread Scott Fisher
dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com - dynamic PPP/DSL/cable reverse DNS hostnames,
useful for stopping spam from broadband proxies

Because it targets the RevDNS is why I use the dnsbl with the revdns. I also
test the HELO

revdns 97.6% spam 3539/52891 emails
helo  99.7% spam 2612/52891 emails
combo of the above 98.2% spam 3556/52891 emails

When I rhsbl the dynamic I would get too many false positives.
I never got a hit off the fraud list so I stopped using it.

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From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice


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 From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  You can also use their rev dns list:
  MAILPOLICE-REVDNS dnsbl   %REVDNS%.dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2
50
 0

 Hmmm, do you actually catch anything with this test?  And why would you go
 through the trouble of setting it this way?  Since this is a classic RHS
 test, why wouldn't you just set it up like:

 MAILPOLICE-DYNA rhsbl dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0

 They also have a fraud list that will help catch phish type e-mails:

 MAILPOLICE-FRAUD rhsbl fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0

 Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-17 Thread Matt




I test the MAILFROM, HELO and REVDNS on the primary list, and the
increase in hit rates for using an RHSBL this was is about 1% to 2% on
my system if I recall correctly.

I also use the dynamic zone, but I have only applied it to the HELO
because I found false positives early on while using it with REVDNS
where they were tagging legitimate mail servers, and the patterns
should have been detected as unreliable by who ever entered them. This
works with a wildcard at only one end of the entry and is capable of
only a single pattern match, and therefore it is limited. I decided to
supplement my own DUL hits with custom filters built to tag single as
well as multiple patterns necessary for proper identification.

The idea of using it as a HELO test is designed to catch zombies, and I
weight it low due to the false positives with mail servers, but add
extra points when it combos with a DUL hit.

Matt




Scott Fisher wrote:

  dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com - dynamic PPP/DSL/cable reverse DNS hostnames,
useful for stopping spam from broadband proxies

Because it targets the RevDNS is why I use the dnsbl with the revdns. I also
test the HELO

revdns 97.6% spam 3539/52891 emails
helo  99.7% spam 2612/52891 emails
combo of the above 98.2% spam 3556/52891 emails

When I rhsbl the dynamic I would get too many false positives.
I never got a hit off the fraud list so I stopped using it.

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From: "Bill Landry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice


  
  
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From: "Scott Fisher" [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  You can also use their rev dns list:
MAILPOLICE-REVDNS dnsbl   %REVDNS%.dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2
  

  
  50
  
  
0

Hmmm, do you actually catch anything with this test?  And why would you go
through the trouble of setting it this way?  Since this is a classic RHS
test, why wouldn't you just set it up like:

MAILPOLICE-DYNA rhsbl dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0

They also have a fraud list that will help catch phish type e-mails:

MAILPOLICE-FRAUD rhsbl fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-17 Thread Bill Landry
Yeah, after Scott's reply I setup a couple of tests using HELO  REVDNS to
see what the results would be like.  I'll monitor for a few days to see how
they look, but I so far I am see pretty good results.

Bill
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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice


 I test the MAILFROM, HELO and REVDNS on the primary list, and the
 increase in hit rates for using an RHSBL this was is about 1% to 2% on
 my system if I recall correctly.

 I also use the dynamic zone, but I have only applied it to the HELO
 because I found false positives early on while using it with REVDNS
 where they were tagging legitimate mail servers, and the patterns should
 have been detected as unreliable by who ever entered them.  This works
 with a wildcard at only one end of the entry and is capable of only a
 single pattern match, and therefore it is limited.  I decided to
 supplement my own DUL hits with custom filters built to tag single as
 well as multiple patterns necessary for proper identification.

 The idea of using it as a HELO test is designed to catch zombies, and I
 weight it low due to the false positives with mail servers, but add
 extra points when it combos with a DUL hit.

 Matt




 Scott Fisher wrote:

 dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com - dynamic PPP/DSL/cable reverse DNS
 hostnames,

 useful for stopping spam from broadband proxies



 Because it targets the RevDNS is why I use the dnsbl with the revdns. I
 also

 test the HELO



 revdns 97.6% spam 3539/52891 emails

 helo  99.7% spam 2612/52891 emails

 combo of the above 98.2% spam 3556/52891 emails



 When I rhsbl the dynamic I would get too many false positives.

 I never got a hit off the fraud list so I stopped using it.



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 You can also use their rev dns list:

 MAILPOLICE-REVDNS dnsbl   %REVDNS%.dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2



 50



 0



 Hmmm, do you actually catch anything with this test?  And why would you
 go

 through the trouble of setting it this way?  Since this is a classic RHS

 test, why wouldn't you just set it up like:



 MAILPOLICE-DYNA rhsbl dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0



 They also have a fraud list that will help catch phish type e-mails:



 MAILPOLICE-FRAUD rhsbl fraud.rhs.mailpolice.com 127.0.0.2 5 0



 Bill



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[Declude.JunkMail] mailpolice

2004-12-16 Thread Glen Harvy
Hi,

Is anyone using mailpolice and if so what details are required in the
global.cfg file?
_
Glen Harvy
Aquarius Communications
for all your Internet Needs.
Phone 9977 3788 Fax 9977 3844

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