RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Beckstrom
David,

Could I suggest that you consider adding something along those lines or
perhaps adding support for regular expressions?

It would make the filters much more flexible and powerful.  Sometimes
spammers will vary only 1 or 2 characters in a URL and this would enable us
to block their variations with one line in the filter.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:46 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
 Dave,
 
 There currently is no pattern matching in Declude filters.
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical / Engineering
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:03 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
 
  Scott,
 
  Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character
  matching
  in filters?  EG, let's say an * is a wild card.
 
  STOPATFIRSTHIT
  BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q
 
 
  The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter
 below.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
  I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great
 Declude
  user (not me) posted it in August.
  So the google redirect has been abused for months.
 
  STOPATFIRSTHIT
 
  BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pa/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.py/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pe/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ph/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.pn/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.pl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.pt/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.cg/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ro/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ru/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.rw/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.sh/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.vc/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.sm/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.yu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.sg/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.sk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.kr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.es/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.se/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ch/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.tw/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-11 Thread Bill Landry

Take a look at SpamAssassin or the SA plug-in for Declude.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source



David,

Could I suggest that you consider adding something along those lines or
perhaps adding support for regular expressions?

It would make the filters much more flexible and powerful.  Sometimes
spammers will vary only 1 or 2 characters in a URL and this would enable 
us

to block their variations with one line in the filter.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

Dave,

There currently is no pattern matching in Declude filters.

David Franco-Rocha
Declude Technical / Engineering

- Original Message -
From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source


 Scott,

 Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character
 matching
 in filters?  EG, let's say an * is a wild card.

 STOPATFIRSTHIT
 BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q


 The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter
below.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

 I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great
Declude
 user (not me) posted it in August.
 So the google redirect has been abused for months.

 STOPATFIRSTHIT

 BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pa/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.py/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pe/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ph/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.pn/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.pl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.pt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ro/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ru/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.rw/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.sh/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.vc/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.sm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.yu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.sg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.sk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.kr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.es/url?q
 BODY 0

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-11 Thread Darin Cox
I believe when this was broached last year, I believe Scott P. stated regexp
parsing consume too much CPU for Declude.

However, we added a regexp filter very easily using the built-in command
line regexp parsing in Windows, thanks to Sandy pointing it out.

It doesn't have all of the functionality in Decludes filters since it's an
all or nothing weight, but has worked well for us.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source


David,

Could I suggest that you consider adding something along those lines or
perhaps adding support for regular expressions?

It would make the filters much more flexible and powerful.  Sometimes
spammers will vary only 1 or 2 characters in a URL and this would enable us
to block their variations with one line in the filter.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:46 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

 Dave,

 There currently is no pattern matching in Declude filters.

 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical / Engineering

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:03 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source


  Scott,
 
  Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character
  matching
  in filters?  EG, let's say an * is a wild card.
 
  STOPATFIRSTHIT
  BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q
 
 
  The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter
 below.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
  I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great
 Declude
  user (not me) posted it in August.
  So the google redirect has been abused for months.
 
  STOPATFIRSTHIT
 
  BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pk/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pa/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.py/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.pe/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.com.ph/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.pn/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.pl/url?q
  BODY 0 contains .google.pt/url?q
  BODY 0 contains

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-11 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
We also have a free reg-ex plug in for Declude at our site invRegex 
(http://www.invariantsystems.com) as said below be careful cause regex 
processing can get expensive depending on the regex. 


Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 



Darin Cox writes: 


I believe when this was broached last year, I believe Scott P. stated regexp
parsing consume too much CPU for Declude. 


However, we added a regexp filter very easily using the built-in command
line regexp parsing in Windows, thanks to Sandy pointing it out. 


It doesn't have all of the functionality in Decludes filters since it's an
all or nothing weight, but has worked well for us. 

Darin. 



- Original Message - 
From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source 



David, 


Could I suggest that you consider adding something along those lines or
perhaps adding support for regular expressions? 


It would make the filters much more flexible and powerful.  Sometimes
spammers will vary only 1 or 2 characters in a URL and this would enable us
to block their variations with one line in the filter. 

 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source 

Dave, 

There currently is no pattern matching in Declude filters. 


David Franco-Rocha
Declude Technical / Engineering 


- Original Message -
From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source 



 Scott,

 Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character
 matching
 in filters?  EG, let's say an * is a wild card.

 STOPATFIRSTHIT
 BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q


 The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter
below.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

 I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great
Declude
 user (not me) posted it in August.
 So the google redirect has been abused for months.

 STOPATFIRSTHIT

 BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-11 Thread Matt




Dave,

The issue here is that not only would the entire filtering mechanism
need to be rewritten, but also the entire parsing mechanism. Right now
Declude does minimal parsing of messages, and for instance, filters
will do plain text matching on both encoded base64 as well as the
unencoded base64. They would need to fully deMIME the message and
parse each individual segment according the the appropriate headers
(keeping in mind that messages can appear within messages, that can
appear within other messages and so on). Not only is base64 code a
problem, but also quoted printable encoding, and then there are the
obfuscation techniques that use URL and HTML encoding, but if you
decode, you also want the encoded stuff available to filtering since
the patterns there can be much stronger than when decoded.

I think that it is reasonable to say that this is all very desirable,
but there is no quick fix that can be expected.

Matt



Dave Beckstrom wrote:

  David,

Could I suggest that you consider adding something along those lines or
perhaps adding support for regular expressions?

It would make the filters much more flexible and powerful.  Sometimes
spammers will vary only 1 or 2 characters in a URL and this would enable us
to block their variations with one line in the filter.



  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

Dave,

There currently is no pattern matching in Declude filters.

David Franco-Rocha
Declude Technical / Engineering

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Beckstrom" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source




  Scott,

Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character
matching
in filters?  EG, let's say an "*" is a wild card.

STOPATFIRSTHIT
BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q


The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter
  

below.


  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great

  

Declude


  
user (not me) posted it in August.
So the google redirect has been abused for months.

STOPATFIRSTHIT

BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/u

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-10 Thread Harry Vanderzand
Yes that would work.

However I want a method that traps all mail that uses this deceptive
practice.

Is there no way to detect this trick?

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
 Beckstrom
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:28 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
 No problem.  
 
 
 BODY   500contains google.com/url?q=
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn \ WCNet
  Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:20 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
  
  I've been getting reports of that from customers all day.
  
  G.Z.
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
  
  
  Certainly
  
  Here is what you see in the e-mail
  
  http://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0
  
  Here is what is in the source:
  
  
 href=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://%
  73%5
  4%
  41%09Nd%09%7aA.n%09e%74/%63%67i-
  b%09%69n%09/%70%6fch/%72e%09di%72.%63g%69?s=
  
 intown.nethttp://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ
  8vk0
  /
  a
  
  Not that different from some of the phishing e-mails
  
  This has got to be detectable and should be cause for 
 immediate deletion.
  
  Who has legitimate cause to hide their identity?
  
  Harry Vanderzand
  inTown Internet  Computer Services
  11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
  519-741-1222
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
   Fisher
   Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:40 PM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
  
   Do you have an example?
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:18 AM
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
  
  
Any ideas on this?
   
When the URL is hidden with cryptic characters in the 
 source code 
of an e-mail it seems to me that it is obviously not a 
 legitimate 
e-mail in that deception is being used.
   
Is there not an easy way to stop e-mail where these 
 practises are 
being used?
   
I am running imail 8.21 and declude 3.05.18, the 
 latest sniffer 
and Invuribl
   
Assistance is appreciated
   
Thank you
   
Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222
   
   
   
   
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 
type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can 
 be found 
at http://www.mail-archive.com.
   
   
   
   
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type 
unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be found at 
http://www.mail-archive.com.
   
   ---
   This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
   unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 and type 
   unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be found at 
   http://www.mail-archive.com.
  
  
  
  
  ---
  This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
  unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type 
  unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be found at 
  http://www.mail-archive.com.
  
  ---
  This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
  unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type 
  unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be found at 
  http://www.mail-archive.com.
  ---
  [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
 
 
 ---
 [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
 
 
 ---
 This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
 unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 
 type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be 
 found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
 
 


---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail.  The archives can be found
at http://www.mail-archive.com.


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-10 Thread Scott Fisher
I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great Declude 
user (not me) posted it in August.

So the google redirect has been abused for months.

STOPATFIRSTHIT

BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pa/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.py/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pe/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ph/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.pn/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.pl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.pt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ro/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ru/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.rw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.sh/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.vc/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.sm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.yu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.sg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.sk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.kr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.es/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.se/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ch/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.tw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.th/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.tt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.tr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ua/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ae/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.uk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.uy/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.uz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.ve/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.vn/url?q

- Original Message - 
From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source



Certainly

Here is what you see in the e-mail

http://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0

Here is what is in the source:

href=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://%73%54%
41%09Nd%09%7aA.n%09e%74/%63%67i-b%09%69n%09/%70%6fch/%72e%09di%72.%63g%69?s=
intown.nethttp://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0/
a

Not that different from some of the phishing e-mails

This has got to be detectable and should be cause for immediate deletion.

Who has legitimate cause to hide their identity?

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

Do you have an example?

- Original Message -
From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source


 Any ideas on this?

 When the URL is hidden with cryptic characters in the source

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-10 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Scott,

Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character matching
in filters?  EG, let's say an * is a wild card.

STOPATFIRSTHIT
BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q


The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter below.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
 I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great Declude
 user (not me) posted it in August.
 So the google redirect has been abused for months.
 
 STOPATFIRSTHIT
 
 BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pa/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.py/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pe/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ph/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.pn/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.pl/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.pt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.pr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.cg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ro/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ru/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.rw/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.sh/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.vc/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.sm/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.yu/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.sg/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.sk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.kr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.es/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.se/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ch/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.tw/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.th/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.tt/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.tr/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.ua/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.ae/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.uk/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.uy/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.uz/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.co.ve/url?q
 BODY 0 contains .google.com.vn/url?q
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:05 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source
 
 
  Certainly
 
  Here is what you see in the e-mail
 
  http://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0
 
  Here is what is in the source:
 
 
 href=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://%73%5
 4%
  41%09Nd%09%7aA.n%09e%74/%63%67i-
 b%09%69n%09/%70%6fch/%72e%09di%72.%63g%69?s=
 
 intown.nethttp://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0
 /
  a
 
  Not that different from some of the phishing e-mails
 
  This has got to be detectable and should be cause

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-10 Thread Scott Fisher

I don't believe so.

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source



Scott,

Doesn't Declude support a wild card character for single character 
matching

in filters?  EG, let's say an * is a wild card.

STOPATFIRSTHIT
BODY 0 contains .google.*/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.**/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.***/url?q


The above would then accomplish the same thing as the entire filter below.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:38 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

I ran across this in one of my unused filters folders. Some great Declude
user (not me) posted it in August.
So the google redirect has been abused for months.

STOPATFIRSTHIT

BODY 0 contains .google.com/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.as/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ar/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.au/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.at/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.az/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.by/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.be/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.br/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.vg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.bi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ca/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.td/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.co/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.cr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ci/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.cu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cd/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.dk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.dj/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.do/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ec/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.sv/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ee/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.fj/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ge/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.de/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.gi/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.gr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.gg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.hn/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.hk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.hu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.in/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ie/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.il/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.it/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.jp/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.je/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.kz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lv/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.ls/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ly/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.li/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.lu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.mw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.my/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.mt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.mu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.mx/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.fm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ms/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.na/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.np/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.nl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.nz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ni/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.nf/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pa/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.py/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pe/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ph/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.pn/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.pl/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.pt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.pr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.cg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ro/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ru/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.rw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.sh/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.vc/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.sm/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.yu/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.sg/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.sk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.kr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.es/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.se/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ch/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.tw/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.th/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.tt/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.tr/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.ua/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.ae/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.uk/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.uy/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.uz/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.co.ve/url?q
BODY 0 contains .google.com.vn/url?q

- Original Message -
From: Harry Vanderzand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source


 Certainly

 Here is what you see in the e-mail

 http://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0

 Here is what is in the source:


href=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://%73%5
4%
 41%09Nd%09%7aA.n%09e%74/%63%67i-
b%09%69n%09/%70%6fch/%72e%09di%72.%63g%69?s=

intown.nethttp://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0
/
 a

 Not that different from

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

2005-11-10 Thread Matt




Harry,

If you have the Pro version, you can make use of the OBFUSCATION filter
that I have posted at my site:

 http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/beta/

It will tag all such links where needless URL and/or HTML obfuscation
is used.

Please note that I stopped maintaining these filters a while ago,
mainly due to my own system becoming too customized for me to make
generalized versions of these filters easily available, and also
because I have focused more and more on writing external tests instead
of Declude filters due to the flexibility that this environment offers
me. The OBFUSCATION filter though has changed little, and I do
currently still use it.

Matt



Harry Vanderzand wrote:

  Yes that would work.

However I want a method that traps all mail that uses this deceptive
practice.

Is there no way to detect this trick?

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave 
Beckstrom
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:28 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

No problem.  


BODY   500 	contains google.com/url?q=






  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Glenn \ WCNet
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:20 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

I've been getting reports of that from customers all day.

G.Z.


- Original Message -
From: "Harry Vanderzand" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source


Certainly

Here is what you see in the e-mail

http://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ8vk0

Here is what is in the source:


  

href=""moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://%">http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://%


  73%5
4%
41%09Nd%09%7aA.n%09e%74/%63%67i-
b%09%69n%09/%70%6fch/%72e%09di%72.%63g%69?s=

  

intown.net"http://intown.net/HwSbgXkc9vYP4qssBQS0AK6bumsUuatFHAdxX6IZ


  8vk0
/
a

Not that different from some of the phishing e-mails

This has got to be detectable and should be cause for 
  

immediate deletion.


  Who has legitimate cause to hide their identity?

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222



  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott 
Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:40 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source

Do you have an example?

- Original Message -
From: "Harry Vanderzand" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Cryptic URL in source




  Any ideas on this?
  
  
When the URL is hidden with cryptic characters in the 

  

  

source code 


  

  
of an e-mail it seems to me that it is obviously not a 

  

  

legitimate 


  

  
e-mail in that deception is being used.

Is there not an easy way to stop e-mail where these 

  

  

practises are 


  

  
being used?

I am running imail 8.21 and declude 3.05.18, the 

  

  

latest sniffer 


  

  
and Invuribl

Assistance is appreciated

Thank you

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222




---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and 
type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can 

  

  

be found 


  

  
at http://www.mail-archive.com.



  
  
---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to 
  

  

[EMAIL PROTECTED], and type 


  

  "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be found at 
http://www.mail-archive.com.

  

---
This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  To 
unsubscribe, jus