RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-13 Thread Dan Spangenberg
Great! Do you think you can get it to work on aliases rather than just
intended recipients like you mentioned?

Dan


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 The test email that I sent only had one recipient. The problem
 started when
 I sent the test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to test the
 filter setup.
 There was not a valid imail account or alias for muji. I waited
 a minute for
 it to process and then checked the declude logs to see what had
 occurred.
 That is when I noticed that the server was acting loaded. I checked the
 mailboxes where the muji message would have gone and it wasn't
 there yet, so
 it was still processing.

 We've found the cause for this; there is a bug in the handling of the new
 ALLRECIP filter option that is causing this.  It will be fixed in
 the next
 release.
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


Great! Do you think you can get it to work on aliases rather than just
intended recipients like you mentioned?


Yes, in the next release, the ALLRECIPS filter option will work on both the 
intended recipient and actual recipient, so you won't have to have the 
account created on the server.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


I resent an email and declude has now gone somewhat wacky.  The imail server
was acting loaded, so I checked the task man and there are 6 or 8 instances
of declude running - taking up all of the cpu cycles.  Ther are also about
15-20 .~md and .smd files in the spool dir and three or 4 .vir directories.
It is busy doing something!

Any ideas what happened?


It looks like there was a problem with the code that could have potentially 
caused this, if there were large numbers of recipients for the 
E-mail.  This will be fixed in the next release.

However, with the 4 .vir directories as well (which are from Declude 
Virus), it may just be that you had a large amount of incoming traffic, 
that was being scanned normally.

Does declude normally run multiple instances?


Yes -- the IMail architecture will have either one Declude.exe process or 
one SMTP32.exe process for each E-mail that is being processed (after it is 
received by the SMTPD32.exe process).

So it obviously doesn't like something with the filter.  I did not create
those accounts; muji and ddd. I was hoping the filters would work without a
valid account as that was my inital goal.  I have now deactivated the filter
test line and all is running well. Tomorrow I'll try it with valid accounts,
althought that doesn't do me much good, even if it works.


I'll see if we can get the ALLRECIPS filter option to work with aliases as 
well.  Although the aliases in IMail are very useful, they do come with 
their drawbacks.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-12 Thread Dan Spangenberg
 I resent an email and declude has now gone somewhat wacky.  The
 imail server
 was acting loaded, so I checked the task man and there are 6 or
 8 instances
 of declude running - taking up all of the cpu cycles.  Ther are
 also about
 15-20 .~md and .smd files in the spool dir and three or 4 .vir
 directories.
 It is busy doing something!
 
 Any ideas what happened?

 It looks like there was a problem with the code that could have
 potentially
 caused this, if there were large numbers of recipients for the
 E-mail.  This will be fixed in the next release.

 However, with the 4 .vir directories as well (which are from Declude
 Virus), it may just be that you had a large amount of incoming traffic,
 that was being scanned normally.

The test email that I sent only had one recipient. The problem started when
I sent the test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to test the filter setup.
There was not a valid imail account or alias for muji. I waited a minute for
it to process and then checked the declude logs to see what had occurred.
That is when I noticed that the server was acting loaded. I checked the
mailboxes where the muji message would have gone and it wasn't there yet, so
it was still processing. At this point I don't think there was any .vir
directories. I waited 2-3 minutes and started to see multiple instances of
declude.exe in taskman/processes.  These were no doubt additional messages
that were coming in while the test message was still processing.  I waited
another few minutes but none of the declude processes would ever finish and
nothing was getting written to the logs.
So that is when I killed it with a rename of global.cfg and a reboot.  I
believe it somehow chocked on the test message and the filter, possibly
because there wasn't a valid imail account. I tried this two times with
basically the same results.  I will try it again but with a valid user
account.


 Does declude normally run multiple instances?

 Yes -- the IMail architecture will have either one Declude.exe process or
 one SMTP32.exe process for each E-mail that is being processed
 (after it is
 received by the SMTPD32.exe process).

 So it obviously doesn't like something with the filter.  I did not create
 those accounts; muji and ddd. I was hoping the filters would
 work without a
 valid account as that was my inital goal.  I have now
 deactivated the filter
 test line and all is running well. Tomorrow I'll try it with
 valid accounts,
 althought that doesn't do me much good, even if it works.

 I'll see if we can get the ALLRECIPS filter option to work with
 aliases as
 well.  Although the aliases in IMail are very useful, they do come with
 their drawbacks.

How do you mean to work with aliases as well?  Are you referring to the
imail aliases? I guess it would be OK to still have an alias for old users,
but where would it point to? I would like it just be able to delete a user
when they are gone, aliases and all and then put their name in another file
to have all their future mail dumped.  It just makes imail more confusing to
manage when there are many old unused users that should have been just
deleted.

I appreciate your help in figuring out a way to do this.

Dan



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


The test email that I sent only had one recipient. The problem started when
I sent the test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to test the filter setup.
There was not a valid imail account or alias for muji. I waited a minute for
it to process and then checked the declude logs to see what had occurred.
That is when I noticed that the server was acting loaded. I checked the
mailboxes where the muji message would have gone and it wasn't there yet, so
it was still processing. At this point I don't think there was any .vir
directories. I waited 2-3 minutes and started to see multiple instances of
declude.exe in taskman/processes.  These were no doubt additional messages
that were coming in while the test message was still processing.  I waited
another few minutes but none of the declude processes would ever finish and
nothing was getting written to the logs.


Since there will only be one Declude.exe process for each E-mail, if there 
was a problem with the E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], it couldn't have 
affected the other Declude.exe processes.  My guess in this case is that 
there was a mail loop of some sort, which is the only way that extra 
Declude.exe processes could have been created (although the new ones would 
only appear after Declude processed the E-mail, so that doesn't make a lot 
of sense either).

So that is when I killed it with a rename of global.cfg and a reboot.  I
believe it somehow chocked on the test message and the filter, possibly
because there wasn't a valid imail account. I tried this two times with
basically the same results.  I will try it again but with a valid user
account.


Without the valid IMail account, the E-mail would be processed with the 
nobody alias as the recipient, rather than the actual account (so per-user 
settings would be based on the nobody alias, and the ALLRECIPS filter 
option would be based on the nobody alias).

 I'll see if we can get the ALLRECIPS filter option to work with
 aliases as
 well.  Although the aliases in IMail are very useful, they do come with
 their drawbacks.

How do you mean to work with aliases as well?


The ALLRECIPS filter option (which was added to the v1.62 beta) only looks 
at the actual recipients, not the intended recipients (the address that the 
sender tried to send to).  So in the case of the nobody alias, the 
ALLRECIPS filter option doesn't look at the intended recipient (which is 
what we are going to see if we can change).

Are you referring to the imail aliases? I guess it would be OK to still 
have an alias for old users,
but where would it point to?

No -- the idea is just that you could still use the old nobody alias, and 
still have Declude JunkMail filter based on the intended recipient (muji), 
even though the mail is going to the nobody alias.
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


The test email that I sent only had one recipient. The problem started when
I sent the test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to test the filter setup.
There was not a valid imail account or alias for muji. I waited a minute for
it to process and then checked the declude logs to see what had occurred.
That is when I noticed that the server was acting loaded. I checked the
mailboxes where the muji message would have gone and it wasn't there yet, so
it was still processing.


We've found the cause for this; there is a bug in the handling of the new 
ALLRECIP filter option that is causing this.  It will be fixed in the next 
release.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Spangenberg
I renamed global.cfg go global.bak and rebooted. Everything started OK, so I
renamed it bak to global.cfg and now declude is doing the same thing.
It clearly doesn't like something with the filters.

Here is what I have in the global.cfg

WEIGHT10weight  x   x   10  0
WEIGHT20weight  x   x   20  0
WEIGHT100   weight  x   x   100 0
SNIFFER external nonzero f:\imail\sniffer\sniffer.exe  10 0
BLACKLIST fromfile f:\IMail\kill\fromfile.txt x 5 0
CATCHALLMAILS   catchallmails   x   x   0   0
OLDEMPLOYEE filter f:\IMail\Declude\oldemployee1.txt x 100 0

and this is the content of the employee1.txt file:

ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The junkmail file only has:

WEIGHT100   HOLD

Any ideas?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-11 Thread R. Scott Perry


I renamed global.cfg go global.bak and rebooted. Everything started OK, so I
renamed it bak to global.cfg and now declude is doing the same thing.


What exactly is happening?


WEIGHT100   weight  x   x   100 0
OLDEMPLOYEE filter f:\IMail\Declude\oldemployee1.txt x 100 0


That's good.


and this is the content of the employee1.txt file:

ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]


That's good (assuming that you are running v1.62 or higher, which is needed 
for the ALLRECIPS option).

The junkmail file only has:

WEIGHT100   HOLD


And that looks good too.

Did you add the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] accounts?
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-11 Thread Bill Landry
 OLDEMPLOYEE filter f:\IMail\Declude\oldemployee1.txt x 100 0

and this is the content of the employee1.txt file:

This may be a typo, but it does not appear here that the actual file name
employee1.txt and the config option in the Global.cfg oldemployee1.txt
are the same.  Just something to look at...

Bill
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Spangenberg
It doesn't look like you got the earlier message. Here it is:

I was in the middle of testing the filters, and initially go a couple of
errors in the log that said it could not open my filter file. I rechecked
the configuration for a typo and everything looked OK. I sent a couple more
emails and nothing showed in the log that it was even looking at the filter
file. So, I created a new filter file with a new name and renamed it in the
global.cfg.
I resent an email and declude has now gone somewhat wacky.  The imail server
was acting loaded, so I checked the task man and there are 6 or 8 instances
of declude running - taking up all of the cpu cycles.  Ther are also about
15-20 .~md and .smd files in the spool dir and three or 4 .vir directories.
It is busy doing something!

Any ideas what happened?  Does declude normally run multiple instances?
I am going to rename the global.cfg and try a reboot. It won't let me kill
any of the declude processes.


So it obviously doesn't like something with the filter.  I did not create
those accounts; muji and ddd. I was hoping the filters would work without a
valid account as that was my inital goal.  I have now deactivated the filter
test line and all is running well. Tomorrow I'll try it with valid accounts,
althought that doesn't do me much good, even if it works.

I am on version 1.62

Thanks
Dan


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?



I renamed global.cfg go global.bak and rebooted. Everything started OK, so
I
renamed it bak to global.cfg and now declude is doing the same thing.

What exactly is happening?

WEIGHT100   weight  x   x   100 0
OLDEMPLOYEE filter f:\IMail\Declude\oldemployee1.txt x 100 0

That's good.

and this is the content of the employee1.txt file:

ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALLRECIPS 0 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's good (assuming that you are running v1.62 or higher, which is needed
for the ALLRECIPS option).

The junkmail file only has:

WEIGHT100   HOLD

And that looks good too.

Did you add the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] accounts?
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Spangenberg
Sorry, yes a typo. The filename did match the global.cfg line.

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Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:57 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude gone whacky?


 OLDEMPLOYEE filter f:\IMail\Declude\oldemployee1.txt x 100 0

and this is the content of the employee1.txt file:

This may be a typo, but it does not appear here that the actual file name
employee1.txt and the config option in the Global.cfg oldemployee1.txt
are the same.  Just something to look at...

Bill
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