RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Title: Message Exactly what I had to do. I was skipping for 2 hours on failure, caching dns info, and doing 20 retries on 30 min intervals. Hotmail wasnt getting anything from me. I switched back to letting my DNS server do the work (never really saw any benefit anyway), turned off the skip on failure feature (also didnt make much of a difference except to make my log files a little bigger) and increased my retry to 24 times at one hour intervals. That immediately fixed the problem. I actually think things are running a little better this way, likely because the extra effort the server does with dns is offset by my longer retry interval. And I give mail a bigger chance to get delivered to a problematic (or recently changed) mail server. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I also turned off Failed Domain Skipping for the same reasons, but I don't believe that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing confusion when helping clients get their servers back online after failures. I figure that with all the processing power that goes into spam and virus blocking, caching and failed domain skipping aren't but 0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer to turn them off. Who knows. Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Interestingly enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem persisting over a week and thosehosts never responding. IfMicrosoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue. Also, MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers. Since the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12,correction, 9out of 16 hosts that do respond to us. And no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least. Matt Robert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge theproblem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server toretry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.R-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?I'm seeing 2 things:My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threadsandfrequency. I've lowered them.The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. Istuffedthe responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zoneandthat alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, becauseIwanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and Ifound that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told myserverto come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.Andrew 8)-Original Message-From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MXconnectionproblems.http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick DavidsonSent: 11 May 2004 20:29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from themRick DavidsonNational Systems ManagerNorth American Title Group-- Original Message -From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PMSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least. Matt Robert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Is this an option in later version of iMail? We're running 6.06 and I don't recall this anywhere.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least.MattRobert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Title: Message Interestingly enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem persisting over a week and thosehosts never responding. IfMicrosoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue. Also, MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers. Since the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12,correction, 9out of 16 hosts that do respond to us. And no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service. Andrew 8) -Original Message-From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least.MattRobert Shubert wrote: Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again. R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I also turned off "Failed Domain Skipping" for the same reasons, but I
don't believe that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing
confusion when helping clients get their servers back online after
failures. I figure that with all the processing power that goes into
spam and virus blocking, caching and failed domain skipping aren't but
0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer to turn them off. Who
knows.
Matt
Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
Message
Interestingly
enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side. Microsoft has
not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the
problem persisting over a week and thosehosts never responding.
IfMicrosoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue.
Also,
MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem. The MX records for
the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers.
Since
the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back
in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12,correction, 9out of 16
hosts that do respond to us.
And
no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your
subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these
messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over. If
you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some
time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but
don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail
returns to normal service.
Andrew
8)
-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound
mail?
I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations
like this. I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen
any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues. My
thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the
servers that aren't functioning properly? This is one of the reasons
why I turned this off at least.
Matt
Robert Shubert wrote:
Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.
R
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I'm seeing 2 things:
My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency. I've lowered them.
The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson
Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing
connection resets from them
Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using Opera 7.5).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I get the same Page cannot... with IE 6... Looks like it might be down... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Maze Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using Opera 7.5).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
We've been experiencing intermittent mail problems with ALL the big guys (MSN, YAHOO, HOTMAIL) over the past two months. It would appear that when you get big enough you don't need to follow any rules. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Maze Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using Opera 7.5).. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. the link doesn't work either? I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. Is it just me? Robert - Original Message - From: David Lewis-Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
substitute 'backup' for the 'www' in the url. Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:36 AM, Jeff Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JM When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server (using JM Opera 7.5).. JM -Original Message- JM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? JM dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. JM the link doesn't work either? JM I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. JM Is it just me? JM Robert JM - Original Message - JM From: David Lewis-Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM JM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. JM --- JM [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM (http://www.declude.com)] JM --- JM This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, JM just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe JM Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at JM http://www.mail-archive.com. JM --- JM [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] JM --- JM This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JM unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JM type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found JM at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Hmmm.. Still didn't work.. There's always http://www.checkdns.net This is what checkdns says about dnsreport.com: http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.aspx?domain=www.dnsreport.comdetailed=1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? substitute 'backup' for the 'www' in the url. Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:36 AM, Jeff Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JM When clicking the link below, I get a unable to connect to server JM (using Opera 7.5).. JM -Original Message- JM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? JM dnsreprots.com hasn't worked for two day for me. JM the link doesn't work either? JM I keep getting different pages that want to see me free web space. JM Is it just me? JM Robert JM - Original Message - JM From: David Lewis-Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:52 AM JM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. JM --- JM [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM (http://www.declude.com)] JM --- JM This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JM unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type JM unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at JM http://www.mail-archive.com. JM --- JM [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JM (http://www.declude.com)] JM --- JM This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JM unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type JM unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at JM http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
You may want to use this link instead I can't seem to get the main server to come up. http://backup.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com Steve David Lewis-Waller wrote: This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses as a service to Keeling Inc. Customers]
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
You know what's weird.. If I put just backup.dnsreport.com in the address bar, it comes up to DNSstuff.com.. Whoa.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve :-)Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? You may want to use this link instead I can't seem to get the main server to come up.http://backup.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.comSteveDavid Lewis-Waller wrote: This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses as a service to Keeling Inc. Customers]
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
I'm seeing 2 things: My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads and frequency. I've lowered them. The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week. I stuffed the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone and that alleviated the queue. The next day I checked my Imail log, because I wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my server to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: David Lewis-Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX connection problems. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: 11 May 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Anybody else with this trouble? I've got 300+ messages queued to hotmail.com addresses. Both my cached and a fresh DNS query look fine. I have a ton of: MX connect fail 65.54.190.50 messages in my Imail log (lots of different IP addresses whose reverse DNS ends with hotmail.com) Andrew. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
