Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread System Administrator
on 9/18/03 9:38 PM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

 Thanks a bunch for both new features.  Are you planning on doing anything
 in the future with the IP's that you are collecting, i.e. new
 functionality like creating a blacklist?  Or is this just being done to
 facilitate that test?
 
 We haven't decided for certain what we are going to do, but if we get
 enough of a volume, we will likely send automated notices to the
 appropriate abuse addresses.

One thing that would be nice is if we could put a DONOTSENDTOFORGINGVIRUS in
our config or .eml files and if Declude Virus sees a forging virus it would
not send the warning messages automatically. That way we wouldn't have to
manually update what is a forging virus in our files.

Greg


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

One thing that would be nice is if we could put a DONOTSENDTOFORGINGVIRUS in
our config or .eml files and if Declude Virus sees a forging virus it would
not send the warning messages automatically. That way we wouldn't have to
manually update what is a forging virus in our files.
Already done.  :)

You can add a line SKIPIFFORGING to any of the \IMail\Declude\*.eml 
files, and they will not be sent out when a forging virus is detected (with 
the latest interim release, at 
http://www.declude.com/release/175i/declude.exe ).  Also, the sender.eml 
and otherpostmaster.eml files will automatically be skipped if a forging 
virus is detected, so you would only need the SKIPIFFORGING line if you 
have your own custom .eml files, or don't want recipient/postmaster 
notifications sent for forging viruses.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread Kami Razvan
You can add a line SKIPIFFORGING to any of the \IMail\Declude\*.eml

Scott:

Will the recipient and postmaster then show the sender as FORGED?

Since we had a list of the forged in the virus.cfg.

1:  Can we delete all the skipifvirus lines in the .eml files?
2:  Can we delete all the forged entries in the virus.cfg?

Regards,
Kami

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One thing that would be nice is if we could put a 
DONOTSENDTOFORGINGVIRUS in our config or .eml files and if Declude 
Virus sees a forging virus it would not send the warning messages 
automatically. That way we wouldn't have to manually update what is a 
forging virus in our files.

Already done.  :)

You can add a line SKIPIFFORGING to any of the \IMail\Declude\*.eml 
files, and they will not be sent out when a forging virus is detected (with 
the latest interim release, at 
http://www.declude.com/release/175i/declude.exe ).  Also, the sender.eml 
and otherpostmaster.eml files will automatically be skipped if a forging 
virus is detected, so you would only need the SKIPIFFORGING line if you 
have your own custom .eml files, or don't want recipient/postmaster 
notifications sent for forging viruses.

-Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread System Administrator
on 9/19/03 7:51 AM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

 One thing that would be nice is if we could put a DONOTSENDTOFORGINGVIRUS in
 our config or .eml files and if Declude Virus sees a forging virus it would
 not send the warning messages automatically. That way we wouldn't have to
 manually update what is a forging virus in our files.
 
 Already done.  :)

Nice!

I figured you already had something in place in the interim release, but
since you didn't say anything, I thought I'd state the obvious.

Greg

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM) entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Will the recipient and postmaster then show the sender as FORGED?
No, but that will likely be added.

Since we had a list of the forged in the virus.cfg.

1:  Can we delete all the skipifvirus lines in the .eml files?
2:  Can we delete all the forged entries in the virus.cfg?
I would recommend keeping them in there, just as a backup.  Once this new 
system has been well tested, then it should be safe to remove them.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Scott,
 Does the new Declude poll every time to your box to see what is 
forging and what is not or does it keep a cache?  (Just thinking about 
your bandwidth and also if.. g-d forbid... your network connection goes 
down.)

-Josh

On Sep 19, 2003, at 8:21 AM, System Administrator wrote:

on 9/19/03 7:51 AM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

One thing that would be nice is if we could put a 
DONOTSENDTOFORGINGVIRUS in
our config or .eml files and if Declude Virus sees a forging virus 
it would
not send the warning messages automatically. That way we wouldn't 
have to
manually update what is a forging virus in our files.
Already done.  :)
Nice!

I figured you already had something in place in the interim release, 
but
since you didn't say anything, I thought I'd state the obvious.

Greg

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

Does the new Declude poll every time to your box to see what is forging 
and what is not or does it keep a cache?
It polls every time a virus is received.

(Just thinking about your bandwidth and also if.. g-d forbid... your 
network connection goes down.)
However, if our server can't be reached, Declude Virus will assume that the 
virus is a forging virus.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-18 Thread Todd Holt
Where can I download the interim release?

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV  USA
www.xidix.com


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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS
entries
 (aka VERISCAM)
 
 We have just come out with an interim release (v1.75i8) that will
detect
 the wildcard A records from all TLDs that use them.  This works
 automatically with the MAILFROM and HELOBOGUS tests, without any
 configuration changes needed.
 
 However, the latest interim release includes an experimental new
feature
 in
 Declude Virus, that will automatically look up virus names to see if
they
 are forging viruses.  This will send the name of the virus and the IP
 address that sent it to our servers as part of the lookup.  If you do
not
 feel comfortable with this information being sent, you can add a line
 AUTOFORGE OFF to your virus.cfg file.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Where can I download the interim release?
You can download it from http://www.declude.com/release/175i/declude.exe .

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Interim release to detect wildcard DNS entries (aka VERISCAM)

2003-09-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Thanks a bunch for both new features.  Are you planning on doing anything 
in the future with the IP's that you are collecting, i.e. new 
functionality like creating a blacklist?  Or is this just being done to 
facilitate that test?
We haven't decided for certain what we are going to do, but if we get 
enough of a volume, we will likely send automated notices to the 
appropriate abuse addresses.  The idea is that while large ISPs just don't 
have the resources to deal with thousands of individual reports of viruses 
(with many of them being duplicates, many of them not appropriate, etc.), 
they may have the time to deal with getting updates several times a day of 
new customers of theirs that have viruses, and which ones still are sending 
viruses.

Or perhaps we can set it up so that the appropriate people can go to a 
website to check the infected computers under their control, or that 
individuals can check all the IPs in their Class C range (so a curious 
person may find out that one of their co-workers has a virus, and then 
tells the IT guys...).

   -Scott
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