Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Corby,

Because of MS SMTP handling the E-mail before it reaches my
IMail/Declude system, Declude always inserts it's headers in the proper
block, however MS SMTP can cause some of the pre-Declude headers
(original) to appear in either the top of the body or the bottom of the
body.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  
  Ok, thanks very much.  I'll see
if they'll get me the latest 2.x version to see if that works.   Can
you clarify somethingare you saying that you're receiving mail from
the same spammer that's causing my problem, but your system is handling
it correctly?
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:37 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Corby,

I assumed that you weren't using an MS gateway, I was just letting you
know that what happened to these headers was going to be different on
my system.

I have tons of spam on my system generated by this spamware and it's
all showing the same behavior so I suspect that there is an issue with
what you are receiving as well.  It could just be a single CR without
an LF which can look normal in a text viewer, but can throw programs
like Declude and MS SMTP off.  This should explain the initial cause of
the issue.  The handling of the malformed headers may vary in different
versions of Declude.

For a 2.0.6.16 download, it appears that you will have to ask Declude
directly for this or do the bigger upgrade to 3.x.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  Hi
Matt,
   
  I'm not using any MS
gateway on this.  The mail comes into Imail/declude and uses Imail as
the email server.   I opened the message with notepad and didn't locate
any misplaced headers.  I would like
to try updating to 2.0.6 as you suggest, but I'm not finding any 2.x
downloads on the site. Can you tell me where to
find them?  I logged in and found the 3.x downloads.
   
  Thanks for all of your help.   This is sure
a head scratcher for me.
   
  Cheers
   
  
  
  

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:59 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Corby,

I also received a bunch of these, and one copy that I came up with in a
hold box showed that the headers were in fact broken.  My MS SMTP
gateway shows the From, Bcc, and locally inserted MS SMTP headers at
the very bottom of this message.  That's how MS SMTP deals with it, but
Declude might deal with it differently, or it might even have broken
your older version of Declude.  You should at least upgrade to 2.0.6.16
which is available from their site.  Upgrading to 3.x would be
something that you should plan more carefully though as it is a major
change.

I suspect that you are looking at the rendered view of the E-mail, and
since this is a multipart message with both text and HTML segments, it
is not rendering the broken headers in the normal view, but they might
be there if you were to look at the original text source.  If the
headers are in the body and your rule in your client is looking for
headers where they belong, that would explain why your filter isn't
working.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  Well I'm somewhat more
confused as I don't really know what "bad folding" means.  However, I
don't see any of the X-headers in the message body.
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 PM
        To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting
to mailbox


Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of Declude, the
headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due to
bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate
mailers will produce this flaw).  Your client rule is probably
searching for headers and doesn't recognize the header that was
inserted into what became the body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may
or may not fix the issue, though there was talk about this issue
several months ago in relation to 3.x and I believe some work was done
to take care of some of it.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  Actually,
I'm still running 2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade,
eh?  
   
   I
don't actually dele

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox



Ok, thanks very much.  I'll see if they'll get me the 
latest 2.x version to see if that works.   Can you clarify 
somethingare you saying that you're receiving mail from the same spammer 
that's causing my problem, but your system is handling it 
correctly?

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:37 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged 
  spam getting to mailbox
  Corby,I assumed that you weren't using an MS gateway, I was 
  just letting you know that what happened to these headers was going to be 
  different on my system.I have tons of spam on my system generated by 
  this spamware and it's all showing the same behavior so I suspect that there 
  is an issue with what you are receiving as well.  It could just be a 
  single CR without an LF which can look normal in a text viewer, but can throw 
  programs like Declude and MS SMTP off.  This should explain the initial 
  cause of the issue.  The handling of the malformed headers may vary in 
  different versions of Declude.For a 2.0.6.16 download, it appears that 
  you will have to ask Declude directly for this or do the bigger upgrade to 
  3.x.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  


Hi 
Matt,
 
I'm not using any MS gateway on 
this.  The mail comes into Imail/declude and uses Imail as the email 
server.   I opened the message with notepad and didn't locate any 
misplaced headers.  I would like to try 
updating to 2.0.6 as you suggest, but I'm not finding any 2.x downloads on 
the site. Can you tell me where to 
find them?  I logged in and found the 3.x 
downloads.
 
Thanks for all of your help.   This is 
sure a head scratcher for me.
 
Cheers
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:59 
  PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to 
  mailboxCorby,I also received a bunch of 
  these, and one copy that I came up with in a hold box showed that the 
  headers were in fact broken.  My MS SMTP gateway shows the From, Bcc, 
  and locally inserted MS SMTP headers at the very bottom of this 
  message.  That's how MS SMTP deals with it, but Declude might deal 
  with it differently, or it might even have broken your older version of 
  Declude.  You should at least upgrade to 2.0.6.16 which is available 
  from their site.  Upgrading to 3.x would be something that you should 
  plan more carefully though as it is a major change.I suspect that 
  you are looking at the rendered view of the E-mail, and since this is a 
  multipart message with both text and HTML segments, it is not rendering 
  the broken headers in the normal view, but they might be there if you were 
  to look at the original text source.  If the headers are in the body 
  and your rule in your client is looking for headers where they belong, 
  that would explain why your filter isn't 
  working.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Well I'm somewhat more confused as I don't 
really know what "bad folding" means.  However, I don't see any of 
the X-headers in the message body.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 
  2:34 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to 
  mailboxAndrew probably nailed this.  In at 
  least some versions of Declude, the headers that it inserts could land 
  in the body of the message due to bad folding techniques that the 
  spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate mailers will produce this 
  flaw).  Your client rule is probably searching for headers and 
  doesn't recognize the header that was inserted into what became the 
  body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may or may not fix the 
  issue, though there was talk about this issue several months ago in 
  relation to 3.x and I believe some work was done to take care of some 
  of it.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Actually, I'm still running 
2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, 
eh?  
 
 I don't actually delete mail 
at any score.  I use the header information in my email client 
to sort the incoming messages.    Other than this 
particular bugger, it's worked well for me.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Corby,

I assumed that you weren't using an MS gateway, I was just letting you
know that what happened to these headers was going to be different on
my system.

I have tons of spam on my system generated by this spamware and it's
all showing the same behavior so I suspect that there is an issue with
what you are receiving as well.  It could just be a single CR without
an LF which can look normal in a text viewer, but can throw programs
like Declude and MS SMTP off.  This should explain the initial cause of
the issue.  The handling of the malformed headers may vary in different
versions of Declude.

For a 2.0.6.16 download, it appears that you will have to ask Declude
directly for this or do the bigger upgrade to 3.x.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Hi
Matt,
   
  I'm not using any MS
gateway on this.  The mail comes into Imail/declude and uses Imail as
the email server.   I opened the message with notepad and didn't locate
any misplaced headers.  I would like
to try updating to 2.0.6 as you suggest, but I'm not finding any 2.x
downloads on the site. Can you tell me where to
find them?  I logged in and found the 3.x downloads.
   
  Thanks for all of your help.   This is sure
a head scratcher for me.
   
  Cheers
   
  
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:59 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Corby,

I also received a bunch of these, and one copy that I came up with in a
hold box showed that the headers were in fact broken.  My MS SMTP
gateway shows the From, Bcc, and locally inserted MS SMTP headers at
the very bottom of this message.  That's how MS SMTP deals with it, but
Declude might deal with it differently, or it might even have broken
your older version of Declude.  You should at least upgrade to 2.0.6.16
which is available from their site.  Upgrading to 3.x would be
something that you should plan more carefully though as it is a major
change.

I suspect that you are looking at the rendered view of the E-mail, and
since this is a multipart message with both text and HTML segments, it
is not rendering the broken headers in the normal view, but they might
be there if you were to look at the original text source.  If the
headers are in the body and your rule in your client is looking for
headers where they belong, that would explain why your filter isn't
working.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  Well I'm somewhat more
confused as I don't really know what "bad folding" means.  However, I
don't see any of the X-headers in the message body.
  
  

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 PM
    To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of Declude, the
headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due to
bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate
mailers will produce this flaw).  Your client rule is probably
searching for headers and doesn't recognize the header that was
inserted into what became the body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may
or may not fix the issue, though there was talk about this issue
several months ago in relation to 3.x and I believe some work was done
to take care of some of it.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  Actually, I'm still running
2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  
   
   I don't actually delete mail at
any score.  I use the header information in my email client to sort the
incoming messages.    Other than this particular bugger, it's worked
well for me.
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PM
        To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting
to mailbox


Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete
on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG
may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver?

-Nick

Agid, Corby wrote:

  

  Hello, 
  I'm having trouble with a
particular spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude
log file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that
lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no
X-RBL headers in the mess

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Hi 
Matt,
 
I'm not using any MS gateway on this.  The mail 
comes into Imail/declude and uses Imail as the email server.   I 
opened the message with notepad and didn't locate any misplaced headers.  I would like to try updating to 2.0.6 as you 
suggest, but I'm not finding any 2.x downloads on the 
site. Can you tell me where to find them?  
I logged in and found the 3.x 
downloads.
 
Thanks for all of your 
help.   This is sure a head scratcher for 
me.
 
Cheers
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:59 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged 
  spam getting to mailbox
  Corby,I also received a bunch of these, and one copy that I 
  came up with in a hold box showed that the headers were in fact broken.  
  My MS SMTP gateway shows the From, Bcc, and locally inserted MS SMTP headers 
  at the very bottom of this message.  That's how MS SMTP deals with it, 
  but Declude might deal with it differently, or it might even have broken your 
  older version of Declude.  You should at least upgrade to 2.0.6.16 which 
  is available from their site.  Upgrading to 3.x would be something that 
  you should plan more carefully though as it is a major change.I 
  suspect that you are looking at the rendered view of the E-mail, and since 
  this is a multipart message with both text and HTML segments, it is not 
  rendering the broken headers in the normal view, but they might be there if 
  you were to look at the original text source.  If the headers are in the 
  body and your rule in your client is looking for headers where they belong, 
  that would explain why your filter isn't 
  working.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Well I'm somewhat more confused as I don't really 
know what "bad folding" means.  However, I don't see any of the 
X-headers in the message body.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 
  PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to 
  mailboxAndrew probably nailed this.  In at least 
  some versions of Declude, the headers that it inserts could land in the 
  body of the message due to bad folding techniques that the spammer uses 
  (sometimes also legitimate mailers will produce this flaw).  Your 
  client rule is probably searching for headers and doesn't recognize the 
  header that was inserted into what became the body due to bad 
  folding.  An upgrade may or may not fix the issue, though there was 
  talk about this issue several months ago in relation to 3.x and I believe 
  some work was done to take care of some of 
  it.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Actually, I'm still running 2.0.5.   I 
suppose that I should probably upgrade, 
eh?  
 
 I don't actually delete mail at any 
score.  I use the header information in my email client to sort the 
incoming messages.    Other than this particular bugger, 
it's worked well for me.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Tuesday, January 24, 
  2006 1:46 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to 
  mailboxOdd - just because its always the same 
  email. What number do you delete on? Although the logs will balloon in 
  size running the Declude in DEBUG may shed some light. I presume this 
  is Declude 3x ver?-NickAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Hello, 
I'm having trouble with a particular spam 
message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude log 
file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that 
lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no 
X-RBL headers in the message that gets to the mailbox.   
All of my other mail, whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl 
headers to verify they were scanned.  
Can you help me understand why the final 
message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of 
these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From 
addresses are different.
Below are the log snips and message 
headers. 
=== Dec0123.log 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 
SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25 .  Total 
weight = 44.
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 
 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Corby,

I also received a bunch of these, and one copy that I came up with in a
hold box showed that the headers were in fact broken.  My MS SMTP
gateway shows the From, Bcc, and locally inserted MS SMTP headers at
the very bottom
of this message.  That's how MS SMTP deals with it, but Declude might
deal with it differently, or it might even have broken your older
version of Declude.  You should at least upgrade to 2.0.6.16 which is
available from their site.  Upgrading to 3.x would be something that
you should plan more carefully though as it is a major change.

I suspect that you are looking at the rendered view of the E-mail, and
since this is a multipart message with both text and HTML segments, it
is not rendering the broken headers in the normal view, but they might
be there if you were to look at the original text source.  If the
headers are in the body and your rule in your client is looking for
headers where they belong, that would explain why your filter isn't
working.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  
  Well I'm somewhat more
confused as I don't really know what "bad folding" means.  However, I
don't see any of the X-headers in the message body.
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of Declude, the
headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due to
bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate
mailers will produce this flaw).  Your client rule is probably
searching for headers and doesn't recognize the header that was
inserted into what became the body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may
or may not fix the issue, though there was talk about this issue
several months ago in relation to 3.x and I believe some work was done
to take care of some of it.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  Actually, I'm still running
2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  
   
   I don't actually delete mail at
any score.  I use the header information in my email client to sort the
incoming messages.    Other than this particular bugger, it's worked
well for me.
  
  

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PM
        To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete
on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG
may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver?

-Nick

Agid, Corby wrote:

  

  Hello, 
  I'm having trouble with a
particular spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude
log file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that
lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no
X-RBL headers in the message that gets to the mailbox.   All of my
other mail, whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to
verify they were scanned.  
  Can you help me understand why
the final message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three
of these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From
addresses are different.
  
  Below are the log snips and
message headers. 
  ===
  
  Dec0123.log 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2
SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25 .  Total weight = 44.
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Using [incoming] CFG file
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed CBL ("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed FIVETEN-SRC
(175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMBAG
(175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers
consistent with spam [4000100e].). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL:
52.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox



Well I'm somewhat more confused as I don't really know 
what "bad folding" means.  However, I don't see any of the X-headers in the 
message body.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged 
  spam getting to mailbox
  Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of 
  Declude, the headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due 
  to bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate 
  mailers will produce this flaw).  Your client rule is probably searching 
  for headers and doesn't recognize the header that was inserted into what 
  became the body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may or may not fix the 
  issue, though there was talk about this issue several months ago in relation 
  to 3.x and I believe some work was done to take care of some of 
  it.MattAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Actually, I'm still running 2.0.5.   I 
suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  
 
 I don't actually delete mail at any score.  
I use the header information in my email client to sort the incoming 
messages.    Other than this particular bugger, it's worked 
well for me.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 
  1:46 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to 
  mailboxOdd - just because its always the same email. 
  What number do you delete on? Although the logs will balloon in size 
  running the Declude in DEBUG may shed some light. I presume this is 
  Declude 3x ver?-NickAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Hello, 
I'm having trouble with a particular spam 
message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude log file 
shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that lands in 
the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no X-RBL 
headers in the message that gets to the mailbox.   All of my 
other mail, whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to 
verify they were scanned.  
Can you help me understand why the final 
message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of 
these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses 
are different.
Below are the log snips and message 
headers. 
=== Dec0123.log 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 
SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25 .  Total weight 
= 44.
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Using 
[incoming] CFG file 
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed CBL 
("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed FIVETEN-SRC (175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed SPAMBAG (175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). 
Action=""> 01/23/2006 15:45:52 
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers 
consistent with spam [4000100e].). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL: 52.). 
Action=""> 01/23/2006 15:45:52 
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg 
failed CATCHALLMAILS (). Action=""> 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 L1 Message OK 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Nick, FYI, by gatewaying through MS SMTP/ORF, that actually normalizes
the headers before it gets to Declude and therefor this behavior is not
seen.  You will however see some of the original headers  left in the
body on some messages, but not the ones from Declude.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:

  
Agid, Corby wrote:
  



Actually, I'm still running
2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  

  
I haven't. I'm on 2.16  
  
 
   Other than this particular
bugger, it's worked well for me.
  
it is odd to me that a particular email from a particular spammer would
not be tagged on a daily basis. Maybe Declude support can offer some
insight. Other than debug like I mentioned I have no idea -   I'd be
ask'n Matt or Andy if it happened to me!
  
-Nick
  

  
   From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Nick
Hayer
  Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox
  
  
Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete
on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG
may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver?
  
-Nick
  
Agid, Corby wrote:
  


Hello, 
I'm having trouble with a
particular spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude
log file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that
lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no
X-RBL headers in the message that gets to the mailbox.   All of my
other mail, whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to
verify they were scanned.  
Can you help me understand why
the
final message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of
these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses
are different.

Below are the log snips and
message headers. 
===

Dec0123.log 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25
.  Total weight = 44.
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Using [incoming] CFG file
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed CBL ("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed FIVETEN-SRC
(175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMBAG
(175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). Action=""> 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[4000100e].). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL:
52.). Action=""> 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds
the limit of 30.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds
the limit of 30.). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed CATCHALLMAILS (). Action=""> 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
L1 Message OK 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
Subject: Viagra Professional as low as $3.84 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 68.41.152.175 ID: 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967
Tests failed [weight=44]: CBL=IGNORE FIVETEN-SRC=""
SORBS-DUHL=IGNORE SPAMBAG=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN MS-SNAKEOIL=IGNORE
WEIGHT10-29A=IGNORE WEIGHT10-29B=IGNORE WEIGHT30A=IGNORE
SPAMYELLOW=WARN SPAMRED=WARN CATCHALLMAILS=WARN 
01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Last action = ""> 

Sys0123.log 
01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[216.101.5.133] connect 68.41.152.175 port 4251 
01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] HELO localhost 
01:23 15:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox



Current version does not fix this "folding" problem.  
Declude is testing a newer version that may fix the problem, but no joy 
yet.
 
 Matt wrote:


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:34 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged 
spam getting to mailbox
Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of 
Declude, the headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due 
to bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate 
mailers will produce this flaw).  Your client rule is probably searching 
for headers and doesn't recognize the header that was inserted into what became 
the body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may or may not fix the issue, 
though there was talk about this issue several months ago in relation to 3.x and 
I believe some work was done to take care of some of 
it.Matt


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Nick Hayer
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  
  Actually, I'm still running
2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  
  

I haven't. I'm on 2.16  

   
     Other than this particular
bugger, it's worked well for me.

it is odd to me that a particular email from a particular spammer would
not be tagged on a daily basis. Maybe Declude support can offer some
insight. Other than debug like I mentioned I have no idea -   I'd be
ask'n Matt or Andy if it happened to me!

-Nick

  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick
Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete
on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG
may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver?

-Nick

Agid, Corby wrote:

  

  Hello, 
  I'm having trouble with a
particular spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude
log file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that
lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no
X-RBL headers in the message that gets to the mailbox.   All of my
other mail, whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to
verify they were scanned.  
  Can you help me understand why the
final message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of
these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses
are different.
  
  Below are the log snips and
message headers. 
  ===
  
  Dec0123.log 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25
.  Total weight = 44.
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Using [incoming] CFG file
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed CBL ("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed FIVETEN-SRC
(175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMBAG
(175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[4000100e].). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL:
52.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds
the limit of 30.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds
the limit of 30.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed CATCHALLMAILS (). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
L1 Message OK 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Subject: Viagra Professional as low as $3.84 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 68.41.152.175 ID: 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Tests failed [weight=44]: CBL=IGNORE FIVETEN-SRC=""
SORBS-DUHL=IGNORE SPAMBAG=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN MS-SNAKEOIL=IGNORE
WEIGHT10-29A=IGNORE WEIGHT10-29B=IGNORE WEIGHT30A=IGNORE
SPAMYELLOW=WARN SPAMRED=WARN CATCHALLMAILS=WARN 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Last action = ""> 
  
  Sys0123.log 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[216.101.5.133] connect 68.41.152.175 port 4251 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] HELO localhost 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] C:\IMail\spool\D6aae0151a967.SMD 4723 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
performing antispam checks 
  01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967)
processing C:\IMail\spool\

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of Declude, the
headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due to
bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate
mailers will produce this flaw).  Your client rule is probably
searching for headers and doesn't recognize the header that was
inserted into what became the body due to bad folding.  An upgrade may
or may not fix the issue, though there was talk about this issue
several months ago in relation to 3.x and I believe some work was done
to take care of some of it.

Matt



Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  
  Actually, I'm still running
2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  
   
   I don't actually delete mail at
any score.  I use the header information in my email client to sort the
incoming messages.    Other than this particular bugger, it's worked
well for me.
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick
Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to
mailbox


Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete
on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG
may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver?

-Nick

Agid, Corby wrote:

  

  Hello, 
  I'm having trouble with a
particular spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude
log file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that
lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no
X-RBL headers in the message that gets to the mailbox.   All of my
other mail, whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to
verify they were scanned.  
  Can you help me understand why the
final message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of
these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses
are different.
  
  Below are the log snips and
message headers. 
  ===
  
  Dec0123.log 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25
.  Total weight = 44.
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Using [incoming] CFG file
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed CBL ("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed FIVETEN-SRC
(175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMBAG
(175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[4000100e].). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL:
52.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds
the limit of 30.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds
the limit of 30.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed CATCHALLMAILS (). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
L1 Message OK 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Subject: Viagra Professional as low as $3.84 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 68.41.152.175 ID: 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Tests failed [weight=44]: CBL=IGNORE FIVETEN-SRC=""
SORBS-DUHL=IGNORE SPAMBAG=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN MS-SNAKEOIL=IGNORE
WEIGHT10-29A=IGNORE WEIGHT10-29B=IGNORE WEIGHT30A=IGNORE
SPAMYELLOW=WARN SPAMRED=WARN CATCHALLMAILS=WARN 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52
Q6aae0151a967 Last action = ""> 
  
  Sys0123.log 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[216.101.5.133] connect 68.41.152.175 port 4251 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] HELO localhost 
  01:23 15:45 SMT

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox



Actually, I'm still running 2.0.5.   I suppose 
that I should probably upgrade, eh?  
 
 I don't actually delete mail at any score.  I 
use the header information in my email client to sort the incoming 
messages.    Other than this particular bugger, it's worked well 
for me.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick 
  HayerSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged 
  spam getting to mailbox
  Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you 
  delete on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG 
  may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x 
  ver?-NickAgid, Corby wrote: 
  

Hello, 
I'm having trouble with a particular spam message 
getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude log file shows the 
scanning and scoring.  However, the message that lands in the mailbox 
shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no X-RBL headers in the message 
that gets to the mailbox.   All of my other mail, whether spam or 
not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to verify they were scanned.  

Can you help me understand why the final message 
doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of these per day, 
each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses are 
different.
Below are the log snips and message 
headers. 
=== 
Dec0123.log 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 
SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25 .  Total weight = 
44.
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Using 
[incoming] CFG file 
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed CBL 
("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
FIVETEN-SRC (175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
SPAMBAG (175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). Action=""> 
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [4000100e].). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL: 52.). Action=""> 
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.). 
Action="">
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
CATCHALLMAILS (). Action=""> 01/23/2006 
15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 L1 Message OK 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Subject: Viagra Professional as 
low as $3.84 01/23/2006 15:45:52 
Q6aae0151a967 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 
68.41.152.175 ID: 01/23/2006 15:45:52 
Q6aae0151a967 Tests failed [weight=44]: CBL=IGNORE FIVETEN-SRC="" 
SORBS-DUHL=IGNORE SPAMBAG=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN MS-SNAKEOIL=IGNORE 
WEIGHT10-29A=IGNORE WEIGHT10-29B=IGNORE WEIGHT30A=IGNORE SPAMYELLOW=WARN 
SPAMRED=WARN CATCHALLMAILS=WARN 
01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Last action 
= ""> 
Sys0123.log 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [216.101.5.133] connect 
68.41.152.175 port 4251 01:23 15:45 
SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] HELO localhost 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] Mail 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] Rcpt 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] 
C:\IMail\spool\D6aae0151a967.SMD 4723 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) performing antispam checks 
01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967) processing 
C:\IMail\spool\Q6aae0151a967.SMD 01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967) ldeliver mail.agid.com corby-main 
(1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5361 01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae015

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox



Corby, to help you rule out "header corruption" I checked 
my own logs, and found that I received (and held) three copies of the same spam 
message today.
 
Inspecting each of those with notepad showed that my X- 
headers are being added, therefore "header corruption" or "bad folding" 
shouldn't be the issue.
 
 
Andrew 8)
 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agid, 
  CorbySent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:35 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam 
  getting to mailbox
  
  Hello, 
  I'm having trouble with a particular spam message 
  getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude log file shows the 
  scanning and scoring.  However, the message that lands in the mailbox 
  shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no X-RBL headers in the message 
  that gets to the mailbox.   All of my other mail, whether spam or 
  not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to verify they were scanned.  
  
  Can you help me understand why the final message 
  doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of these per day, 
  each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses are 
  different.
  Below are the log snips and message headers. 
  
  === 
  Dec0123.log 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 SORBS-DUHL:4 
  SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25 .  Total weight = 44.
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Using 
  [incoming] CFG file C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail. 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  CBL ("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  FIVETEN-SRC (175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  SPAMBAG (175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.). Action=""> 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [4000100e].). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL: 52.). Action=""> 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.). 
  Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg failed 
  CATCHALLMAILS (). Action=""> 01/23/2006 
  15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 L1 Message OK 01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Subject: Viagra Professional as 
  low as $3.84 01/23/2006 15:45:52 
  Q6aae0151a967 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 
  68.41.152.175 ID: 01/23/2006 15:45:52 
  Q6aae0151a967 Tests failed [weight=44]: CBL=IGNORE FIVETEN-SRC="" 
  SORBS-DUHL=IGNORE SPAMBAG=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN MS-SNAKEOIL=IGNORE 
  WEIGHT10-29A=IGNORE WEIGHT10-29B=IGNORE WEIGHT30A=IGNORE SPAMYELLOW=WARN 
  SPAMRED=WARN CATCHALLMAILS=WARN 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Last action = 
  ""> 
  Sys0123.log 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [216.101.5.133] connect 
  68.41.152.175 port 4251 01:23 15:45 
  SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] HELO localhost 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] Mail 
  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01:23 15:45 
  SMTPD(6aae0151a967) [68.41.152.175] Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) 
  [68.41.152.175] C:\IMail\spool\D6aae0151a967.SMD 4723 01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967) performing antispam 
  checks 01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967) 
  processing C:\IMail\spool\Q6aae0151a967.SMD 01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967) ldeliver mail.agid.com corby-main 
  (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5361 01:23 15:45 
  SMTP-(6aae0151a967) finished C:\IMail\spool\Q6aae0151a967.SMD 
  status=1 
  Email Headers: Received: from localhost [68.41.152.175] by mail.agid.com 
    (SMTPD-8.21) id AAAE0130; Mon, 23 
  Jan 2006 15:45:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 
  2006 18:45:52 +0100 Return-path: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: 
  "Adler"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Viagra 
  Professional as low as $3.84 Message-ID: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: 
  multipart/alternative;     
  boundary="=_NextPart_000_0003_01C618B6.107D4F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMa

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Nick Hayer
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox




Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete
on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG
may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver?

-Nick

Agid, Corby wrote:

  
  
  

  Hello,
  
  I'm having trouble with a particular
spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude log file
shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that lands in the
mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no X-RBL headers
in the message that gets to the mailbox.   All of my other mail,
whether spam or not spam, still shows X-rbl headers to verify they were
scanned.  
  Can you help me understand why the
final message doesn’t' show the X-RBL headers?  I get about three of
these per day, each has the same style, but the IP and From addresses
are different.
  
  Below are the log snips and message
headers.
  
  ===
  
  Dec0123.log
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
CBL:6 FIVETEN-SRC:4 SORBS-DUHL:4 SPAMBAG:2 SPAMHEADERS:3 MS-SNAKEOIL:25
.  Total weight = 44.
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Using [incoming] CFG file
C:\IMail\Declude\mail.agid.com\$default$.junkmail.
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg
failed CBL ("Blocked - see http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed FIVETEN-SRC (175.152.41.68.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.).
Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SORBS-DUHL ("Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?68.41.152.175"). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SPAMBAG (175.152.41.68.blacklist.spambag.org.).
Action="">
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg
failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[4000100e].). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed MS-SNAKEOIL (Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL: 52.). Action="">
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 Msg
failed WEIGHT10-29A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.).
Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed WEIGHT10-29B (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed WEIGHT30A (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of
30.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SPAMYELLOW (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.). Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed SPAMRED (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 30.).
Action="">
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Msg failed CATCHALLMAILS (). Action="">
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967 L1
Message OK
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Subject: Viagra Professional as low as $3.84 
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 68.41.152.175 ID: 
  
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Tests failed [weight=44]: CBL=IGNORE FIVETEN-SRC=""
SORBS-DUHL=IGNORE SPAMBAG=IGNORE SPAMHEADERS=WARN MS-SNAKEOIL=IGNORE
WEIGHT10-29A=IGNORE WEIGHT10-29B=IGNORE WEIGHT30A=IGNORE
SPAMYELLOW=WARN SPAMRED=WARN CATCHALLMAILS=WARN 
  01/23/2006 15:45:52 Q6aae0151a967
Last action = "">
  
  
  Sys0123.log
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[216.101.5.133] connect 68.41.152.175 port 4251
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] HELO localhost
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
[68.41.152.175] C:\IMail\spool\D6aae0151a967.SMD 4723
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTPD(6aae0151a967)
performing antispam checks
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967)
processing C:\IMail\spool\Q6aae0151a967.SMD
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967)
ldeliver mail.agid.com corby-main (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5361
  
  01:23 15:45 SMTP-(6aae0151a967)
finished C:\IMail\spool\Q6aae0151a967.SMD status=1
  
  
  Email Headers:
  
  Received: from localhost [68.41.152.175]
by mail.agid.com 
  
    (SMTPD-8.21) id AAAE0130; Mon, 23 Jan
2006 15:45:50 -0800 
  
  Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:45:52 +0100 
  
  Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  
  From: "Adler"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  
  Subject: Viagra Professional as low as
$3.84 
  
  Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  
  MIME-Version: 1.0 
  
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
  
     
boundary="=_NextPart_000_0003_01C618B6.107D4F00" 
  
  X-Priority: 3 
  
  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal 
  
  X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.2180 
  
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE
V6.00.2900.2180