RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Grosshandler
No problems here.  I use it, not extensively.

Rob

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Any one have any comments on them, good or bad?

A client is asking about it.

John Tolmachoff
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Dan Geiser
John,
If I knew then (when I first tried Plaxo) what I know now (when I discovered
some bothersome issues and have since uninstalled) I would never have
installed Plaxo.

The 2 things that leap to mind:

1)  Plaxo installs a stub program on your computer which constantly runs in
the background.  It used an excessive amount of system resources and it
seemed like poor programming practices to even have the stub program running
in the first place.

2)  When you sign up for Plaxo they make a copy of all of your Outlook
contacts in a web-based account that they setup for you.  This is supposed
to be a convenience I guess.  The thing is once my trial ended and even
though I no longer wanted to have my contacts on a web-based account with
them I cannot get them to remove that account.  Every month or so I come
back and try my logon to their web account for me and it's still functioning
and they won't delete it even after repeated requests to cancel my trial
membership.

I won't say their Evil but they are at least Chaotic Neutral.

Dan

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
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 Any one have any comments on them, good or bad?

 A client is asking about it.

We ban them at work. Seems to us like a scam to get people to give them tons
of contact information, and their TOS says they won't share the info but if
they are bought by another company then of course the TOS goes out the
window. Which is more reasonable? They are out to be a good company and help
the Internet or that they are harvesting data to make themselves attractive
to buy in order to obtain that data?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
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 If I knew then (when I first tried Plaxo) what I know now (when I
discovered
 some bothersome issues and have since uninstalled) I would never have
 installed Plaxo.
snip
 I won't say their Evil but they are at least Chaotic Neutral.

Oh I'd call them evil;

http://www.plaxo.com/css/support/plaxo_privacy.pdf

In the event Plaxo goes through a business transition, such as a merger,
acquisition or the
sale of a portion of its assets, The User's Information and his/her
membership in the Plaxo
Contact NetworksT will, in most instances, be part of the assets
transferred. The user will
be notified of an ownership change pursuant to Notification of Changes
section of the
privacy statement.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Matt




What concerns me is how they intend to make money. Consider the fact
that they aren't making it directly from their software, hopefully
there's a plan there that first requires acceptance and mass, though
whether or not that would go over will with those here is a different
story. I wouldn't use it for the very fact that their money making
plan isn't yet known and that will likely impact all of their users at
some point, for better or worse, if they survive. Why commit to
leaving your address book in someone else's hands when they don't even
charge you?

If they charged, I would feel differently, because that would show a
legitimate way to make money, and a desire not to piss off paying
customers. I'm not at all concerned though about them selling anyone's
address, though some 'Partner Spam' delivered by them would be
expected. FYI:

http://www.plaxo.com/support/it

Matt



Joshua Levitsky wrote:

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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:31 PM
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If I knew then (when I first tried Plaxo) what I know now (when I

  
  discovered
  
  
some bothersome issues and have since uninstalled) I would never have
installed Plaxo.

  
  snip
  
  
I won't say their Evil but they are at least Chaotic Neutral.

  
  
Oh I'd call them evil;

http://www.plaxo.com/css/support/plaxo_privacy.pdf

"In the event Plaxo goes through a business transition, such as a merger,
acquisition or the
sale of a portion of its assets, The User's Information and his/her
membership in the Plaxo
Contact NetworksT will, in most instances, be part of the assets
transferred. The user will
be notified of an ownership change pursuant to Notification of Changes
section of the
privacy statement."

--
Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, CISSP
System Engineer
http://www.foist.org/
[5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A 0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1]


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