RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
Are trying to do mailbox based off of weight? If so you can set this function up with in SM3 and let the user and or domain admin decide if they want to do this. I am still testing but seems to work ok for me. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Robertson Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:51 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude Has anyone tested the MAILBOX action with SmarterMail 3 yet? The Declude 4 manual says this action only works with IMail. If MAILBOX is not supported with SmarterMail, it looks like using ROUTETO with plus addressing would be the best way to put junk in each user's spam folder. Though I'm not sure how to generate the syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Declude. Any suggestions for the best way to route spam with SM 3/Declude 4? Thanks, Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:46 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: SV RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude In my conversation with Barry and with Smartermail support the mail box action should now work. I have not tested it yet. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:29 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude Great! :-) Only one feature to go! I'm hoping the new SMTP Plus and POP Plus will enable Declude's Mailbox Action to work. Bill Green dfn Systems - Original Message - Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book - As far as I know, this has been supported for quite sometime by Deculde / SmarterMail. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
Great! :-) Only one feature to go! I'm hoping the new SMTP Plus and POP Plus will enable Declude's Mailbox Action to work. Bill Green dfn Systems - Original Message - Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book - As far as I know, this has been supported for quite sometime by Deculde / SmarterMail. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude
In my conversation with Barry and with Smartermail support the mail box action should now work. I have not tested it yet. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:29 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 and Declude Great! :-) Only one feature to go! I'm hoping the new SMTP Plus and POP Plus will enable Declude's Mailbox Action to work. Bill Green dfn Systems - Original Message - Automatic Whitelisting per user from the recipient's Web Messaging Address Book - As far as I know, this has been supported for quite sometime by Deculde / SmarterMail. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet?
There seems to be early talk on the SmartTools Forums of bugginess in SM 3.0. I for one am not in any hurry to install it, especially since most of my customers need the Spanish language translation, and that hasn't been released yet. For those interested, this little blip is from the SmarterTools web site: SmarterMail 3.0 is now available to the public. Release notes are available here, and the download is available here. From: "Robert E. Spivack" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:38 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? According to SmarterTools site, version 3 is finally out. Im anxious to hear if the port 587 stuff is working right, among all the other new things this one is important catch-up feature with Imail. It also looks like they added subfolder handling to smtp and pop just like Imail.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet?
I just upgraded my production/testing server from professional 2.6 (unlimited) to 3.0 unlimited (I am running in that box 220 users in 15 sites). Plan to work with over 300 domains and 4500 usersfrom my current Imail installation. so far I like the product very, very much. Ithas some things only available in Imail until now. For example the ability to send an email directly to a subfolder in the mailbox account or read from an specific folder via POP3. It is called Plus Addressing The SMTP port uses also an alternate port. "Users will be able to access their mail through either the SMTP port and the alternate SMTP port, as both will be available simultaneously. I haven't tested yet." It has also: Message archiving per domain seems to be working fine. It is organized by date. Outlook integration is only one way. From your Outlook you can see your calendar, contacts, tasks. It is very easy to setup, and works perfectly. Calendar, Tasks and Contacts intregration within the domain works great, but have't tested deeeply yet. You can import and export contacts easily. Message preview is a fantastic Speed is great if you have a good internet connection of course. more here http://www.smartertools.com/Products/SmarterMail/ReleaseNotes.aspx I am using declude and sniffer (persistent mode) and so far no problem. I will upgrade to version 4.08 there are a lot.. lot.. lot of new features. Not all tested yet.. but so far I am extremely pleased with it. give me a few days and I will keep posting what I found with it. Luis Arango From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. SpivackSent: Jueves, 09 de Febrero de 2006 02:37 a.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? According to SmarterTools site, version 3 is finally out. Im anxious to hear if the port 587 stuff is working right, among all the other new things this one is important catch-up feature with Imail. It also looks like they added subfolder handling to smtp and pop just like Imail.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet?
Title: Message Hi Luis, What is your average count of inbound/outbound email messages on your server and what type of server specs/speed? -Erik -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto ArangoSent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:10 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? I just upgraded my production/testing server from professional 2.6 (unlimited) to 3.0 unlimited (I am running in that box 220 users in 15 sites). Plan to work with over 300 domains and 4500 usersfrom my current Imail installation. so far I like the product very, very much. Ithas some things only available in Imail until now. For example the ability to send an email directly to a subfolder in the mailbox account or read from an specific folder via POP3. It is called Plus Addressing The SMTP port uses also an alternate port. "Users will be able to access their mail through either the SMTP port and the alternate SMTP port, as both will be available simultaneously. I haven't tested yet." It has also: Message archiving per domain seems to be working fine. It is organized by date. Outlook integration is only one way. From your Outlook you can see your calendar, contacts, tasks. It is very easy to setup, and works perfectly. Calendar, Tasks and Contacts intregration within the domain works great, but have't tested deeeply yet. You can import and export contacts easily. Message preview is a fantastic Speed is great if you have a good internet connection of course. more here http://www.smartertools.com/Products/SmarterMail/ReleaseNotes.aspx I am using declude and sniffer (persistent mode) and so far no problem. I will upgrade to version 4.08 there are a lot.. lot.. lot of new features. Not all tested yet.. but so far I am extremely pleased with it. give me a few days and I will keep posting what I found with it. Luis Arango From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. SpivackSent: Jueves, 09 de Febrero de 2006 02:37 a.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? According to SmarterTools site, version 3 is finally out. Im anxious to hear if the port 587 stuff is working right, among all the other new things this one is important catch-up feature with Imail. It also looks like they added subfolder handling to smtp and pop just like Imail.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet?
Title: Message In both servers (the one running Imail and the one running smartermail) Windows 2003 Server Standard Edition DualXeon D2.8 2 GB Ram 2 x 120 MB (Hard Drives Raid 1) 2 NICs Intel PRO 1000 MT (external and internal) Messages Smartermail about 5K per day Imail between 30 and 40K per day -Luis Arango From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ErikSent: Jueves, 09 de Febrero de 2006 02:24 p.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? Hi Luis, What is your average count of inbound/outbound email messages on your server and what type of server specs/speed? -Erik -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto ArangoSent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:10 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? I just upgraded my production/testing server from professional 2.6 (unlimited) to 3.0 unlimited (I am running in that box 220 users in 15 sites). Plan to work with over 300 domains and 4500 usersfrom my current Imail installation. so far I like the product very, very much. Ithas some things only available in Imail until now. For example the ability to send an email directly to a subfolder in the mailbox account or read from an specific folder via POP3. It is called Plus Addressing The SMTP port uses also an alternate port. "Users will be able to access their mail through either the SMTP port and the alternate SMTP port, as both will be available simultaneously. I haven't tested yet." It has also: Message archiving per domain seems to be working fine. It is organized by date. Outlook integration is only one way. From your Outlook you can see your calendar, contacts, tasks. It is very easy to setup, and works perfectly. Calendar, Tasks and Contacts intregration within the domain works great, but have't tested deeeply yet. You can import and export contacts easily. Message preview is a fantastic Speed is great if you have a good internet connection of course. more here http://www.smartertools.com/Products/SmarterMail/ReleaseNotes.aspx I am using declude and sniffer (persistent mode) and so far no problem. I will upgrade to version 4.08 there are a lot.. lot.. lot of new features. Not all tested yet.. but so far I am extremely pleased with it. give me a few days and I will keep posting what I found with it. Luis Arango From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. SpivackSent: Jueves, 09 de Febrero de 2006 02:37 a.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 is out - has anyone tried it yet? According to SmarterTools site, version 3 is finally out. Im anxious to hear if the port 587 stuff is working right, among all the other new things this one is important catch-up feature with Imail. It also looks like they added subfolder handling to smtp and pop just like Imail.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
web-based forum: I have to go there each day and spend some minutes to find out what's going on. My 24 hours each day are short enough that I will do that one, two or some more days but then I will left the forum until I havea new problem. And for shure not to see if someone maybe has a problem where I mabe can help. list-based forum: new postings are comming in and I can see them. If the subject is well choosen I can easily see if it's something important, or maybe something I've already solved and so can share an easy solution. Are there many replies on a new thread? = it's an indicator that it can be maybe something interesting or important for me too. All the rest can be ignored. mail-client rules move all my incomming list-messages to subfolders so that I have my normal inbox for the daily work. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. SpivackSent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:42 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans MartinSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary SteinerSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see attitude with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
what questions do you have regarding smartermail? or what is your username in the forum to look for them. I try to be actively involved in the forum -that is my way to learn about smartermail- and I will be glad to try to help. regards -Luis Arango From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael GraveenSent: Miércoles, 21 de Diciembre de 2005 08:51 a.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more "experts" in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share.As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the "wait and see attitude" with Smartermail 3.0MIchael GraveenAt 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter).We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all.Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help.Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly.(Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans MartinSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL!Evans MartinEVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]HOSTING: http://www.martek.netPROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.comiPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary SteinerSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January.You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
Guys, Why dont all of us who own smartermail send an email to smartertools asking them to launch a smartertools discussion list? It will take more than one person requesting it for them to set it up. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see attitude with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
Maybe you could get IPSwitch to set one up. LOL! -Chris -- Original Message -- From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:02:14 -0600 Guys, Why don't all of us who own smartermail send an email to smartertools asking them to launch a smartertools discussion list? It will take more than one person requesting it for them to set it up. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see attitude with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and I've posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far I'm not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. That's an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM - saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we can't get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 It's such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net http://www.martek.net/ PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com http://www.martekware.com/ iPlus Info Browser - IPB's IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
Evans Martin set up an unofficial SmarterMail discussion list a few weeks ago. Original message below Hey guys! I got really tired of having to log into a web based forum to see what is going on with SmarterMail so I created a list that I hope we can turn into something similar to the IMail or Declude user community lists. Who knows, if enough of us subscribe and start using it, maybe SmarterTools will lose the web forum and switch to a list format. If youre interested in giving this a try shoot an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe smartermail in the BODY of the message (subject will be ignored). I miss the knowledgeable user community that IMail was so famous for. Maybe we can do the same for SmarterMail. Thanks, Evans Martin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: SV RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Guys, Why dont all of us who own smartermail send an email to smartertools asking them to launch a smartertools discussion list? It will take more than one person requesting it for them to set it up. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see attitude with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
FYI, SmarterMail is aware of this discussion thread and I know that they would want to be aware of any issues with technical support. Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:02 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Guys, Why dont all of us who own smartermail send an email to smartertools asking them to launch a smartertools discussion list? It will take more than one person requesting it for them to set it up. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see attitude with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
I feel the same way. I've answered several questions in their forums and tried to promote discussion where I was able.As for my own questions, I've always received answers, both from their support and from other users.I guess it depends on the nature of the forum and also a little bit of luck. When I've posted to the ASP.NET Forums (http://forums.asp.net) which is a very large community, on certain ones you get really great responses, and the next day you ask a question and all you hear are the sound of chirping crickets.Timing is a factor too. (I've seen this with Declude as well). Don't ask a question after 5 PM PST Friday as you will not see an answer (unless another user is able to help you). My mail server and I are working 7 days a week, but unfortunately SmarterTools and Declude support are only available M-F. Sometimes it is worth "bumping" your question by replying to it yourself or adding to your original question with more detail.Gary From: "Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:08 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 what questions do you have regarding smartermail? or what is your username in the forum to look for them. I try to be actively involved in the forum -that is my way to learn about smartermail- and I will be glad to try to help. regards -Luis ArangoFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael GraveenSent: Mircoles, 21 de Diciembre de 2005 08:51 a.m.To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more "experts" in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share.As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the "wait and see attitude" with Smartermail 3.0MIchael GraveenAt 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter).We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all.Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help.Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly.(Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans MartinSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL!Evans MartinEVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]HOSTING: http://www.martek.netPROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.comiPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary SteinerSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January.You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
Barry, That's good to know, but I don't think it takes a genius to figure out what is at issue here. The difference is "push" vs. "pull". If you expect customers to help out in providing community support, you shouldn't expect as much success doing a message board because that requires pulling people to a site and then having them dig through posts. Pushing this information out through E-mail is effective because there are many more knowledgeable people that will monitor and check their E-mail from various discussions since it is easily accessible and all in one place. The dynamics of course change when the number of active users rise beyond what an E-mail discussion group can handle, and at that point you typically would find enough active members to keep a message board going. It is also worth mentioning that we are all E-mail administrators and E-mail discussion groups should be more appropriate for us than most any other group. If someone is looking for a best of both world's approach, then maybe investing some time and/or money into a real nice list archive to go along with the group would be beneficial. IMO, mail-archive.com is lacking a bit and it could have a friendlier interface for drilling down. Both IMail and Declude have their own message boards (if I'm not mistaken), but hardly any of us ever visit them. That also should be proof. Matt Barry Simpson wrote: FYI, SmarterMail is aware of this discussion thread and I know that they would want to be aware of any issues with technical support. Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:02 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Guys, Why don’t all of us who own smartermail send an email to smartertools asking them to launch a smartertools discussion list? It will take more than one person requesting it for them to set it up. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more "experts" in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the "wait and see attitude" with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The “community” support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and I’ve posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far I’m not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. That’s an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM – saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we can’t get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 It’s such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser – IPB’s IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point i
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
A couple of things: How to remove the mark as spam menu items in webmail since they are meaningless when using an external spam blocking preprocessor. The suggestion I got from support that in an unsupported manner I could edit the aspx files, seemed partly reasonable until I poked around and found that everything is codebehind with server controls and only the compiled dlls are distributed. Kinda impossible to modify a server control that way! (I understand why they wont publish source code, but they sent me down a false alley) Other issue is more wrappers around the webservice interface to make it more usable for non SOAP experts. I would like to have a commandline utility and some asp/aspx pages that provide a forms interface for adding domains, users, etc. Just some published code and some good examples would help. There is very little officially available and some of the stuff published in the forums doesnt work completely. Last issue was how to use dynamic content in the skins. We would like to change the logo based on the URL so we have have per-domain skins without creating hundreds of virtual sites and duplicating the webserver files to accomplish that by brute force. The whole skin thing is not well documented for changing anything non-trivial. The skin templates are *.htm files which somehow get pre-processed into aspx files but one cannot touch those aspx files easily. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:06 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 what questions do you have regarding smartermail? or what is your username in the forum to look for them. I try to be actively involved in the forum -that is my way to learn about smartermail- and I will be glad to try to help. regards -Luis Arango From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graveen Sent: Miércoles, 21 de Diciembre de 2005 08:51 a.m. To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 I've also posted question to their forum with little or no response (I didn't think the questions were that obscure). There definitely seems to be more experts in the IMail camp, or at least experts that are willing to share. As with new versions of IMail, I'll take the wait and see attitude with Smartermail 3.0 MIchael Graveen At 03:42 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote: The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
I have started hosting a community supported SmarterMail list if anyone is interested in joining it. Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe SmarterMail in the BODY of the message to subscribe. I hate using their online forum because it doesnt flow as well as a list does. The list is pretty low volume at the moment but questions are getting answered there. Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. Spivack Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The community support for SmarterMail is much smaller (or at least quieter). We are running one SM server for a client and Ive posted several questions on the SM support forums and have not received any responses at all. Similar posts to Imail or Declude discussion lists have always resulted in lots of replies with useful help. Obviously the products are different and the questions are different, but so far Im not impressed with the size/responsiveness of the community. Thats an important factor we will consider seriously before migrating any other servers from Imail to SM saving a few hundred dollars in license costs is insignificant if we cant get help one way or another as quickly. (Needless to say, the SM questions were on issues that SM tech support provided courteous but not helpful replies when first submitted privately as an email support case, so I was hoping for help from the community) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
This is their canned statement. I sent SmarterTools sales and email a couple of weeks ago and received this exact answer. I was also told that the target is before the end of the year. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Gary SteinerSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0
Its such a breath of fresh air having been in the IMail camp for the last several years. LOL! Evans Martin EVANS MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOSTING: http://www.martek.net PROGRAMMING: http://www.martekware.com iPlus Info Browser IPBs IMail Migration Tool, password browser, reporting suite make IPlus Info Browser something no IMail administrator should be without. http://www.martek.net/Default.aspx?tabid=96 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3.0 The following was posted today on SmarterTools web forums: Q: When will we expect to see v. 3? A: The release date depends on the results of final QA. The product is essentially done, just making sure that all the bugs are out of it. Since mail servers are so critical to people's infrastructure, we work extremely hard to make a stable release with no issues that are going to bite you. We don't sacrifice stability for a quick release. Assuming everything is in good order (which to this point it appears to be), release will be middle of January. You can view the original post at http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/2/11125/ShowPost.aspx#11125
