RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Because the original notifications use to pi$$ people off so it was best not to send them. I don't know if this is still the case but back in the early versions of declude the default message to postmaster was composed like this. ***Declude Message** The Declude Virus v%VERSION% software on our mail server detected the %VIRUSNAME% virus that appears to have come from your mail server. It was sent in an attachment %VIRUSFILE%, from %MAILFROM% to %ALLRECIPS%, with the subject %SUBJECT%. The Message-ID was: %MSGID%. This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of contacting your user and helping them get rid of the virus. This message was sent by Declude Virus. If this virus did originate from one of your users, you may want to consider adding virus protection to your mailserver. You can check the headers below to verify that the virus originated from your mailserver. ** Since many viruses forge the sender and/or use their own smtp engine the messages tended to accuse people who were innocent kind of like bouncing spam will cause you to be a spammer. After receiving several of bogus messages from servers using declude I figured that postmasters that sent notifications for viruses were clueless. Just my 2 cents. Maybe it got better in later versions - I just never turned it on. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote: As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not send virus notifications. What gives you this opinion might I inquire? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for "experienced" admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setupcreated a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creatinga "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm using the following settings right now: THREADS 30WAITFORMAIL 500WAITFORTHREADS 200WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100WINSOCKCLEANUP OFFINVITEFIX ONAUTOREVIEW ONThere are a few reasons for trying these values. THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages. In reality, one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon. I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the system down. This was the same with 2.x and before. There is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization. I am going to back up my server later tonight to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up messages. A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a throttle. I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 100%. Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100 - I see this setting as being the biggest issue with sizing a server. Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only handle 10 messages per second, and this establishes an upper limit for what the server can do. I currently average about 5 messages per second coming from my gateways at peak hours, so I figured that to be safe, I should double that value.INVITEFIX ON - I have it on because it comes on by default and I don't know any better. I know nothing about the cause for needing this outside of brief comments. It seems strange that my Declude setup could ruin an invitation unless I was using footers. If this is only triggered by footer use, I would like to know so that I could turn it off. I would imagine that this causes extra load to do the check.AUTOREVIEW ON - I have this on for the same reason that Andrew pointed out. When I restart Decludeproc, messages land in my review folder, and I don't wish to keep manually fishing things out. If there is an issue with looping, it would be wise for Declude to make this only trigger say every 15 minutes instead of more regularly.Feel free to add to this if you want.MattColbeck, Andrew wrote: I'd second that... on both the observed behaviour and the request for documentation. I'mattaching my highlycommented declude.cfg as a reasonable sample. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:36 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.xDavid,That did the trick. I can't even see any
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Title: Message LOL, sorry, just had laugh. And RE: David Barker's response: "However we have encouraged customers to move to 4.x as that is where future development will be focused." This was not what Barry Simpson said when the 4.0X was released. We are atlost too. Over 2 years now with the same problem; but yet we still pay our agreement. Bad us. Still running 2.0.6.16 here and no release to date of Declude corrects the problem(s) we have. Kristina (at Declude) sent us email on 6/2/2006 that this would be corrected in JUNE and still has not. One of the problems is withbroken images. -Erik -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:36 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for "experienced" admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setupcreated a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creatinga "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm using the following settings right now: THREADS 30WAITFORMAIL 500WAITFORTHREADS 200WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100WINSOCKCLEANUP OFFINVITEFIX ONAUTOREVIEW ONThere are a few reasons for trying these values. THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages. In reality, one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon. I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the system down. This was the same with 2.x and before. There is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization. I am going to back up my server later tonight to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up messages. A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a throttle. I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 100%. Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100 - I see this setting as being the biggest issue with sizing a server. Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only handle 10 messages per second, and this establishes an upper limit for what the server can do. I currently average about 5 messages per second coming from my gateways at peak hours, so I figured that to be safe, I should double that value.INVITEFIX ON - I have it on because it comes on by default and I don't know any better. I know nothing about the cause for needing this outside of brief comments. It seems strange that my Declude setup could ruin an invitation unless I was using footers. If this is only triggered by footer use, I would like to know so that I could turn it off. I would imagine that this causes extra load to do the check.AUTOREVIEW ON - I have this on for the same reason that Andrew pointed out. When I restart Decludeproc, messages land in my review folder, and I don't wish to keep manually fishing things out. If there is an issue with looping, it would be wise for Declude to make this only trigger say every 15 minutes instead of more regularly.Feel free to add to this if you want.MattColbeck,
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Hi Dave, thanks. Next question: I noticed that your Virus.CFGis missing two options from Version 2: AUTOFORGEON BANEZIPEXTSON If I recall correctly, the idea was that: BANZIPEXTS OFF# BANEXTEZIP BANEZIPEXTS ON would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted zipped files. Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer available in Version 3? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David BarkerSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for "experienced" admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setupcreated a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creatinga "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm using the following settings right now: THREADS 30WAITFORMAIL 500WAITFORTHREADS 200WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100WINSOCKCLEANUP OFFINVITEFIX ONAUTOREVIEW ONThere are a few reasons for trying these values. THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages. In reality, one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon. I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the system down. This was the same with 2.x and before. There is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization. I am going to back up my server later tonight to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up messages. A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a throttle. I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 100%. Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100 - I see this setting as being the biggest issue with sizing a server. Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only handle 10 messages per second, and this establishes an upper limit for what the server can do. I currently average about 5 messages per second coming from my gateways at peak hours, so I figured that to be safe, I should double that value.INVITEFIX ON - I have it on because it comes on by default and I don't know any better. I know nothing about the cause for needing this outside of brief comments. It seems strange that my Declude setup could ruin an invitation unless I was using footers. If this is only triggered by footer use, I would like to know so that I could turn it off. I would imagine that this causes extra load to do the check.AUTOREVIEW ON - I have this on for the same reason that
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Andy, BANEZIPEXTS This option has one parameter, ON, which indicates that Declude Virus should look within encrypted .ZIP files to see if there are files whose extensions are blocked with the BANEXT option. If so, they are banned. This is still available in Declude and I will update the virus.cfg AUTOFORGE his option has one parameter, ON, which is called by the ScanFiles function for E-mails that contain a virus. This function checks with our Forging Virus Database to see if the virus that was detected is a forging virus, to determine if E-mail notifications should be sent. As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not send virus notifications. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:09 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave, thanks. Next question: I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2: AUTOFORGE ON BANEZIPEXTS ON If I recall correctly, the idea was that: BANZIPEXTS OFF # BANEXT EZIP BANEZIPEXTS ON would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted zipped files. Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer available in Version 3? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for experienced admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setup created a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the right one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creating a dummy Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew, Thanks for your notes and their history. I'm using the following settings right now: THREADS30 WAITFORMAIL500 WAITFORTHREADS200 WAITBETWEENTHREADS100 WINSOCKCLEANUPOFF INVITEFIXON AUTOREVIEWON There are a few reasons for trying these values. THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages. In reality, one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon. I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the system down. This was the same with 2.x and before. There is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization. I am going to back up my server later tonight to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it. WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up messages. A half second seems good
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Dave - That's what I call catch 22: D:\IMaildecludeproc -diag Invalid command line parameter: -install Install Declude-diag Print diagnostics Hm - so let's see, after "-install",I used "-diag" to figure out what's wrong. But, "-diag" isinvalid. The ony valid parameters are... "-install" and "-diag"? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave, thanks. Next question: I noticed that your Virus.CFGis missing two options from Version 2: AUTOFORGEON BANEZIPEXTSON If I recall correctly, the idea was that: BANZIPEXTS OFF# BANEXTEZIP BANEZIPEXTS ON would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted zipped files. Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer available in Version 3? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David BarkerSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for "experienced" admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setupcreated a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creatinga "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm using the following settings right now: THREADS 30WAITFORMAIL 500WAITFORTHREADS 200WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100WINSOCKCLEANUP OFFINVITEFIX ONAUTOREVIEW ONThere are a few reasons for trying these values. THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages. In reality, one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon. I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the system down. This was the same with 2.x and before. There is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization. I am going to back up my server later tonight to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up messages. A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a throttle. I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 100%. Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100 - I see this setting as being the biggest issue with sizing a server. Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only handle 10 messages per second, and this establishes an upp
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
When the decludeproc services start under your windows services and the first email is processed. A file call diags.txt is created in your \Declude directory. This should contain the version and diagnostics. The valid options on decludeproc from the cmd prompt are: Decludeproc -v displays the version and build Decludeproc -i installs the decludeproc service Decludeproc -u uninstalls the decludeproc service David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Dave - That's what I call catch 22: D:\IMaildecludeproc -diag Invalid command line parameter: -install Install Declude -diagPrint diagnostics Hm - so let's see, after -install, I used -diag to figure out what's wrong. But, -diag is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... -install and -diag? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave, thanks. Next question: I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2: AUTOFORGE ON BANEZIPEXTS ON If I recall correctly, the idea was that: BANZIPEXTS OFF # BANEXT EZIP BANEZIPEXTS ON would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted zipped files. Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer available in Version 3? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for experienced admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setup created a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the right one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creating a dummy Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew, Thanks for your notes and their history. I'm using the following settings right now: THREADS30 WAITFORMAIL500 WAITFORTHREADS200 WAITBETWEENTHREADS100 WINSOCKCLEANUPOFF INVITEFIXON AUTOREVIEWON There are a few reasons for trying these values. THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages. In reality, one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon. I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the system down. This was the same with 2.x and before. There is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization. I am going to back up my server later tonight
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Hi, No - it's NOT in the Declude.cfg. In fact, your sample Declude.cfg doesn't have anyplace to put the config code: THREADS 15 WAITFORMAIL 5000 #INVITEFIX ON #WAITFORTHREADS 1500 #WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 #AUTOREVIEW ON I was first trying to get the virus portion to work. So I ONLY had the code in VIRUS.CFG as per your sample file: # This Code is only required for IMail CODE I924x----4887 Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:55 PM To: 'Andy Schmidt' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew It should cover virus. Is your code in the declude.cfg ? Can you send me your diags.txt David -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave: This one off-list - since it includes the product key. I got this off your web site: Host Name: MAIL..COM Product/KeyI924x----4887 Result in Console.txt: 07/12/2006 15:45:50.078 q516901790351.smd Error: Invalid Declude Virus activation code [I924x----4 Does this particular license code NOT cover Declude Virus? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Hi Dave, Uh - okay, in the meantime I n noticed the Diag.txt. Am I misunderstanding -- or is the DecludeProc.exe prompt incorrect and needs to be fixed as well? If only -v, -i and -u are valid command line options, then it's little help text: Invalid command line parameter: -install Install Declude -diagPrint diagnostics is not factual? It should read: Invalid command line parameter. Valid options are: -v displays the version and build -i installs the decludeproc service -u uninstalls the decludeproc service Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:53 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew When the decludeproc services start under your windows services and the first email is processed. A file call diags.txt is created in your \Declude directory. This should contain the version and diagnostics. The valid options on decludeproc from the cmd prompt are: Decludeproc -v displays the version and build Decludeproc -i installs the decludeproc service Decludeproc -u uninstalls the decludeproc service David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Dave - That's what I call catch 22: D:\IMaildecludeproc -diag Invalid command line parameter: -install Install Declude -diagPrint diagnostics Hm - so let's see, after -install, I used -diag to figure out what's wrong. But, -diag is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... -install and -diag? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave, thanks. Next question: I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2: AUTOFORGE ON BANEZIPEXTS ON If I recall correctly, the idea was that: BANZIPEXTS OFF # BANEXT EZIP BANEZIPEXTS ON would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted zipped files. Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer available in Version 3? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for experienced admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setup created a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the right one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creating a dummy Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Andrew, Thanks for your notes and their history. I'm using
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Let me clarify what you are asking... Are you running version 3.x or 4.x of Declude ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:03 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, No - it's NOT in the Declude.cfg. In fact, your sample Declude.cfg doesn't have anyplace to put the config code: THREADS 15 WAITFORMAIL 5000 #INVITEFIX ON #WAITFORTHREADS 1500 #WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 #AUTOREVIEW ON I was first trying to get the virus portion to work. So I ONLY had the code in VIRUS.CFG as per your sample file: # This Code is only required for IMail CODE I924x----4887 Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:55 PM To: 'Andy Schmidt' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew It should cover virus. Is your code in the declude.cfg ? Can you send me your diags.txt David -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave: This one off-list - since it includes the product key. I got this off your web site: Host Name: MAIL..COM Product/KeyI924x----4887 Result in Console.txt: 07/12/2006 15:45:50.078 q516901790351.smd Error: Invalid Declude Virus activation code [I924x----4 Does this particular license code NOT cover Declude Virus? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
If it is incorrect as you have pointed out, yes it will need to be fixed. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:09 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave, Uh - okay, in the meantime I n noticed the Diag.txt. Am I misunderstanding -- or is the DecludeProc.exe prompt incorrect and needs to be fixed as well? If only -v, -i and -u are valid command line options, then it's little help text: Invalid command line parameter: -install Install Declude -diagPrint diagnostics is not factual? It should read: Invalid command line parameter. Valid options are: -v displays the version and build -i installs the decludeproc service -u uninstalls the decludeproc service Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:53 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew When the decludeproc services start under your windows services and the first email is processed. A file call diags.txt is created in your \Declude directory. This should contain the version and diagnostics. The valid options on decludeproc from the cmd prompt are: Decludeproc -v displays the version and build Decludeproc -i installs the decludeproc service Decludeproc -u uninstalls the decludeproc service David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Dave - That's what I call catch 22: D:\IMaildecludeproc -diag Invalid command line parameter: -install Install Declude -diagPrint diagnostics Hm - so let's see, after -install, I used -diag to figure out what's wrong. But, -diag is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... -install and -diag? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave, thanks. Next question: I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2: AUTOFORGE ON BANEZIPEXTS ON If I recall correctly, the idea was that: BANZIPEXTS OFF # BANEXT EZIP BANEZIPEXTS ON would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted zipped files. Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer available in Version 3? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory which has the same purpose. David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran: Declude_IM_N310.exe and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for experienced admins). PS - that screen has a typo! The setup created a C:\Program Files\Declude folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files in: D:\Imail\Declude together with binaries and the various other Declude files. I'm at loss! Which location is the right one for the config files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)? What's the point of creating a dummy Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all (assuming that being the case)? Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when someone else maintains this server? Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to confuse the Russians? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Hi Dave, Sorry everyone -- my mistake. Yes, I was trying 3.1 - not realizing that I had access to 4.x. I'll start over. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 04:22 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Let me clarify what you are asking... Are you running version 3.x or 4.x of Declude ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:03 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi, No - it's NOT in the Declude.cfg. In fact, your sample Declude.cfg doesn't have anyplace to put the config code: THREADS 15 WAITFORMAIL 5000 #INVITEFIX ON #WAITFORTHREADS 1500 #WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 #AUTOREVIEW ON I was first trying to get the virus portion to work. So I ONLY had the code in VIRUS.CFG as per your sample file: # This Code is only required for IMail CODE I924x----4887 Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: David Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:55 PM To: 'Andy Schmidt' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew It should cover virus. Is your code in the declude.cfg ? Can you send me your diags.txt David -Original Message- From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hi Dave: This one off-list - since it includes the product key. I got this off your web site: Host Name: MAIL..COM Product/KeyI924x----4887 Result in Console.txt: 07/12/2006 15:45:50.078 q516901790351.smd Error: Invalid Declude Virus activation code [I924x----4 Does this particular license code NOT cover Declude Virus? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Andy Schmidt wrote: Hi Dave, Sorry everyone -- my mistake. no biggie. That is what David, our pinada, is for. :) -Nick --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote: As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not send virus notifications. What gives you this opinion might I inquire? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
I think David was basing his opinion on the feedback from this list. Many of the "old timers" here don't send virus notifications. From: Ncl Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:55 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote:As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do notsend virus notifications.What gives you this opinion might I inquire?---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Hey, I am not as old as some of the others. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shayne Embry Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew I think David was basing his opinion on the feedback from this list. Many of the old timers here don't send virus notifications. From: Ncl Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:55 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote: As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not send virus notifications. What gives you this opinion might I inquire? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew
Grin. Maybe so, but you make the list nevertheless. Shayne Original Message From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew Hey, I am not as old as some of the others. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shayne Embry Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew I think David was basing his opinion on the feedback from this list. Many of the old timers here don't send virus notifications. _ From: Ncl Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:55 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote: As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not send virus notifications. What gives you this opinion might I inquire? --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
