RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-13 Thread Chuck Schick
Because the original notifications use to pi$$ people off so it was best not
to send them.

I don't know if this is still the case but back in the early versions of
declude the default message to postmaster was composed like this.

***Declude
Message**
The Declude Virus v%VERSION% software on our mail server detected the
%VIRUSNAME% 
virus that appears to have come from your mail server.  It was sent in
an attachment %VIRUSFILE%, from %MAILFROM% to %ALLRECIPS%,
with the subject "%SUBJECT%".  The Message-ID was:
%MSGID%.

This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of contacting
your user and helping them get rid of the virus.  This message was sent by 
Declude Virus.

If this virus did originate from one of your users, you may want to consider
adding virus protection to your mailserver.  You can check the headers below
to verify that the virus originated from your mailserver.

**

Since many viruses forge the sender and/or use their own smtp engine the
messages tended to accuse people who were innocent kind of like bouncing
spam will cause you to be a spammer.  After receiving several of bogus
messages from servers using declude I figured that postmasters that sent
notifications for viruses were clueless.  

Just my 2 cents. Maybe it got better in later versions - I just never turned
it on.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com



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At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote:

>As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do 
>not send virus notifications.

What gives you this opinion might I inquire?




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Shayne Embry
Grin. Maybe so, but you make the list nevertheless.

Shayne

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> Hey, I am not as old as some of the others.
> 
>  
> 
> John T
> 
> eServices For You
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>  
> 
> "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> 
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>  
> 
> I think David was basing his opinion on the feedback from this list. Many of
> the "old timers" here don't send virus notifications.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
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> At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote:
> 
> >As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not
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> 
> What gives you this opinion might I inquire?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread John T \(Lists\)








Hey, I am not as old as some of the
others.

 



John T

eServices For You

 

"Seek, and ye shall
find!"



 



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Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

 

I think David was basing his opinion
on the feedback from this list. Many of the "old timers" here don't
send virus notifications.










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 12, 2006 4:55 PM
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Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew 

At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote:

>As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not
>send virus notifications.

What gives you this opinion might I inquire?




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Shayne Embry
 
		I think David was basing his opinion on the feedback from this list. Many of the "old timers" here don't send virus notifications.
		

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Ncl Admin
At 03:31 PM 7/12/2006 -0400, David Barker wrote:

>As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not
>send virus notifications.

What gives you this opinion might I inquire?




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread David Barker
Who's your Daddy!! 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:11 PM
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Andy Schmidt wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>
>Sorry everyone -- my mistake. 
>  
>
no biggie. That is what David, our pinada, is for.  :)

-Nick



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Nick Hayer

Andy Schmidt wrote:


Hi Dave,

Sorry everyone -- my mistake. 
 


no biggie. That is what David, our pinada, is for.  :)

-Nick



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

Sorry everyone -- my mistake. Yes, I was trying 3.1 - not realizing that I
had access to 4.x.

I'll start over.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 04:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Let me clarify what you are asking... Are you running version 3.x or 4.x of
Declude ? 

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Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi,

No - it's NOT in the Declude.cfg.

In fact, your sample Declude.cfg doesn't have anyplace to put the config
code:

THREADS 15
WAITFORMAIL 5000
#INVITEFIX  ON
#WAITFORTHREADS 1500
#WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
#AUTOREVIEW ON


I was first trying to get the virus portion to work. So I ONLY had the code
in VIRUS.CFG as per your sample file:

# This Code is only required for IMail
CODE I924x----4887

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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From: David Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:55 PM
To: 'Andy Schmidt'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

It should cover virus. Is your code in the declude.cfg ? Can you send me
your diags.txt

David 

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From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi Dave:

This one off-list - since it includes the product key.

I got this off your web site:

 Host Name: MAIL..COM   
 Product/KeyI924x----4887 

Result in Console.txt:

 07/12/2006 15:45:50.078 q516901790351.smd
 Error: Invalid Declude Virus activation code
[I924x----4

Does this particular license code NOT cover Declude Virus?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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Fax:+1 201 934-9206 






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread David Barker
If it is incorrect as you have pointed out, yes it will need to be fixed.

David 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi Dave,

Uh - okay, in the meantime I n noticed the Diag.txt.  

Am I misunderstanding -- or is the DecludeProc.exe prompt incorrect and
needs to be fixed as well?

If only -v, -i and -u are valid command line options, then it's little help
text:

 Invalid command line parameter:
 -install Install Declude
 -diagPrint diagnostics

is not factual?

It should read:

 Invalid command line parameter. Valid options are:
 -v   displays the version and build
 -i   installs the decludeproc service
 -u   uninstalls the decludeproc service



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:53 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

When the decludeproc services start under your windows services and the
first email is processed. A file call diags.txt is created in your \Declude
directory.
This should contain the version and diagnostics. The valid options on
decludeproc from the cmd prompt are:

Decludeproc -v   displays the version and build

Decludeproc -i   installs the decludeproc service

Decludeproc -u   uninstalls the decludeproc service

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Dave - 
 
That's what I call catch 22:
 
D:\IMail>decludeproc -diag
Invalid command line parameter:
-install Install Declude
-diagPrint diagnostics

Hm - so let's see, after "-install", I used "-diag" to figure out what's
wrong. But, "-diag" is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... "-install"
and "-diag"?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was that:
BANZIPEXTS OFF
# BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be
scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted
zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer
available in Version 3?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the
install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the
latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been
removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory
which has the same purpose.

David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for
"experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 
 
C:\Program Files\Declude 
 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files
in:
 
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the
D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that
contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all
(assuming that being the case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when
someone else maintains this server?
 
Come on

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread David Barker
Let me clarify what you are asking... Are you running version 3.x or 4.x of
Declude ? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:03 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi,

No - it's NOT in the Declude.cfg.

In fact, your sample Declude.cfg doesn't have anyplace to put the config
code:

THREADS 15
WAITFORMAIL 5000
#INVITEFIX  ON
#WAITFORTHREADS 1500
#WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
#AUTOREVIEW ON


I was first trying to get the virus portion to work. So I ONLY had the code
in VIRUS.CFG as per your sample file:

# This Code is only required for IMail
CODE I924x----4887

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:55 PM
To: 'Andy Schmidt'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

It should cover virus. Is your code in the declude.cfg ? Can you send me
your diags.txt

David 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi Dave:

This one off-list - since it includes the product key.

I got this off your web site:

 Host Name: MAIL..COM   
 Product/KeyI924x----4887 

Result in Console.txt:

 07/12/2006 15:45:50.078 q516901790351.smd
 Error: Invalid Declude Virus activation code
[I924x----4

Does this particular license code NOT cover Declude Virus?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

Uh - okay, in the meantime I n noticed the Diag.txt.  

Am I misunderstanding -- or is the DecludeProc.exe prompt incorrect and
needs to be fixed as well?

If only -v, -i and -u are valid command line options, then it's little help
text:

 Invalid command line parameter:
 -install Install Declude
 -diagPrint diagnostics

is not factual?

It should read:

 Invalid command line parameter. Valid options are:
 -v   displays the version and build
 -i   installs the decludeproc service
 -u   uninstalls the decludeproc service



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:53 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

When the decludeproc services start under your windows services and the
first email is processed. A file call diags.txt is created in your \Declude
directory.
This should contain the version and diagnostics. The valid options on
decludeproc from the cmd prompt are:

Decludeproc -v   displays the version and build

Decludeproc -i   installs the decludeproc service

Decludeproc -u   uninstalls the decludeproc service

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Dave - 
 
That's what I call catch 22:
 
D:\IMail>decludeproc -diag
Invalid command line parameter:
-install Install Declude
-diagPrint diagnostics

Hm - so let's see, after "-install", I used "-diag" to figure out what's
wrong. But, "-diag" is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... "-install"
and "-diag"?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was that:
BANZIPEXTS OFF
# BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be
scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted
zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer
available in Version 3?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the
install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the
latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been
removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory
which has the same purpose.

David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for
"experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 
 
C:\Program Files\Declude 
 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files
in:
 
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the
D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that
contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all
(assuming that being the case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when
someone else maintains this server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to
confuse the Russians?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM
To: 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

No - it's NOT in the Declude.cfg.

In fact, your sample Declude.cfg doesn't have anyplace to put the config
code:

THREADS 15
WAITFORMAIL 5000
#INVITEFIX  ON
#WAITFORTHREADS 1500
#WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
#AUTOREVIEW ON


I was first trying to get the virus portion to work. So I ONLY had the code
in VIRUS.CFG as per your sample file:

# This Code is only required for IMail
CODE I924x----4887

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: David Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:55 PM
To: 'Andy Schmidt'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

It should cover virus. Is your code in the declude.cfg ? Can you send me
your diags.txt

David 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi Dave:

This one off-list - since it includes the product key.

I got this off your web site:

 Host Name: MAIL..COM   
 Product/KeyI924x----4887 

Result in Console.txt:

 07/12/2006 15:45:50.078 q516901790351.smd
 Error: Invalid Declude Virus activation code
[I924x----4

Does this particular license code NOT cover Declude Virus?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread David Barker
When the decludeproc services start under your windows services and the
first email is processed. A file call diags.txt is created in your \Declude
directory.
This should contain the version and diagnostics. The valid options on
decludeproc from the cmd prompt are:

Decludeproc -v   displays the version and build

Decludeproc -i   installs the decludeproc service

Decludeproc -u   uninstalls the decludeproc service

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Dave - 
 
That's what I call catch 22:
 
D:\IMail>decludeproc -diag
Invalid command line parameter:
-install Install Declude
-diagPrint diagnostics

Hm - so let's see, after "-install", I used "-diag" to figure out what's
wrong. But, "-diag" is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... "-install"
and "-diag"?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was that:
BANZIPEXTS OFF
# BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be
scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted
zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer
available in Version 3?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the
install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the
latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been
removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory
which has the same purpose.

David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for
"experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 
 
C:\Program Files\Declude 
 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files
in:
 
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the
D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that
contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all
(assuming that being the case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when
someone else maintains this server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to
confuse the Russians?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x


Andrew,

Thanks for your notes and their history.

I'm using the following settings right now:


THREADS30
WAITFORMAIL500
WAITFORTHREADS200
WAITBETWEENTHREADS100
WINSOCKCLEANUPOFF
INVITEFIXON
AUTOREVIEWON


There are a few reasons for trying these values.


THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID
can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, one single
message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon.  I figure that
if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something,
launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the
system down.  This was the same with 2.x and before.  There i

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt



Dave - 
 
That's what I call catch 22:
 
D:\IMail>decludeproc -diag
Invalid 
command line parameter:
-install Install 
Declude-diag    Print 
diagnostics
Hm - 
so let's see, after "-install", I used "-diag" to figure out what's wrong. 
But, "-diag" is invalid. The ony valid parameters are... "-install" and 
"-diag"?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 03:09 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options 
from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was 
that:

BANZIPEXTS OFF# 
BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where 
they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside 
encrypted zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are 
they no longer available in Version 3?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David BarkerSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
install Declude 3.1.20 anew

The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be 
deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make 
available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since 
been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory 
which has the same purpose.
David 
B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus 
downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than 
the option for "experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 

 
    C:\Program Files\Declude 

 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also 
created the SAME files in:
 
    
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude 
files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files 
(I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in 
the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are 
not being used at all (assuming that being the 
case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid 
confusion when someone else maintains this 
server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are 
we still trying to confuse the Russians?

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Experience with 4.x
Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm 
using the following settings right now:
THREADS        
  30WAITFORMAIL    500WAITFORTHREADS    
      200WAITBETWEENTHREADS    
  100WINSOCKCLEANUP        
  OFFINVITEFIX    ONAUTOREVIEW    
      ONThere are a few reasons for trying these 
values.
THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons 
  and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, 
  one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon.  
  I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or 
  something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually 
  slow the system down.  This was the same with 2.x and before.  There 
  is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top 
  of 100% CPU utilization.  I am going to back up my server later tonight 
  to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below 
  that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above 
  it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if 
  it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up 
  messages.  A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - 
  This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a 
  throttle.  I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen 
  when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 
  100%.  Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 
  100 -

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread David Barker
Andy,
 
BANEZIPEXTS
This option has one parameter, ON, which indicates that Declude Virus should
look within encrypted .ZIP files to see if there are files whose extensions
are blocked with the BANEXT option. If so, they are banned.

This is still available in Declude and I will update the virus.cfg

AUTOFORGE   
his option has one parameter, ON, which is called by the ScanFiles function
for E-mails that contain a virus.  This function checks with our Forging
Virus Database to see if the virus that was detected is a forging virus, to
determine if E-mail notifications should be sent. 

As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not
send virus notifications.

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was that:
BANZIPEXTS OFF
# BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be
scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted
zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer
available in Version 3?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the
install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the
latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been
removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory
which has the same purpose.

David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for
"experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 
 
C:\Program Files\Declude 
 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files
in:
 
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the
D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that
contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all
(assuming that being the case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when
someone else maintains this server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to
confuse the Russians?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x


Andrew,

Thanks for your notes and their history.

I'm using the following settings right now:


THREADS30
WAITFORMAIL500
WAITFORTHREADS200
WAITBETWEENTHREADS100
WINSOCKCLEANUPOFF
INVITEFIXON
AUTOREVIEWON


There are a few reasons for trying these values.


THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID
can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, one single
message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon.  I figure that
if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something,
launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the
system down.  This was the same with 2.x and before.  There is added
overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of
100% CPU utilization.  I am going to back up my server later tonight to see
if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that
magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it.

WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did,
it wouldn't make sen

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt



Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options 
from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was 
that:

BANZIPEXTS OFF# 
BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where 
they could be scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside 
encrypted zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are 
they no longer available in Version 3?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David BarkerSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
install Declude 3.1.20 anew

The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be 
deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make 
available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since 
been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory 
which has the same purpose.
David 
B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus 
downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than 
the option for "experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 

 
    C:\Program Files\Declude 

 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also 
created the SAME files in:
 
    
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude 
files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files 
(I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in 
the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are 
not being used at all (assuming that being the 
case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid 
confusion when someone else maintains this 
server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are 
we still trying to confuse the Russians?

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Experience with 4.x
Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm 
using the following settings right now:
THREADS        
  30WAITFORMAIL    500WAITFORTHREADS    
      200WAITBETWEENTHREADS    
  100WINSOCKCLEANUP        
  OFFINVITEFIX    ONAUTOREVIEW    
      ONThere are a few reasons for trying these 
values.
THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons 
  and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, 
  one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon.  
  I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or 
  something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually 
  slow the system down.  This was the same with 2.x and before.  There 
  is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top 
  of 100% CPU utilization.  I am going to back up my server later tonight 
  to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below 
  that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above 
  it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if 
  it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up 
  messages.  A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - 
  This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a 
  throttle.  I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen 
  when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 
  100%.  Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 
  100 - I see this setting as being the biggest issue with sizing a 
  server.  Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only handle 10 messages 
  per second, and this establishes an upper limit for what the server can 
  do.   I currently average about 5 messages per second coming from my 
  gateways at peak hours, so I figured that to be safe, I should double that 
  value.INVITEFIX ON - I have it on because it comes on by 
  default and I don't know any better.  I know nothing about the cause for 
  needing this outside of brief comments.  It seems strange that my Declude 
  setup could ruin an invitation unless I was using footers.  If this is 
  only triggered by footer use, I would like to k

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread Erik-Lists
Title: Message



LOL, 
sorry, just had laugh.
 
And 
RE: David Barker's response: "However we have encouraged customers to move to 
4.x as that is where future development will be focused."  This was not 
what Barry Simpson said when the 4.0X was released.  We are at lost 
too.  Over 2 years now with the same problem; but yet we still pay our 
agreement.  Bad us.
 
Still 
running 2.0.6.16 here and no release to date of Declude corrects the problem(s) 
we have.  Kristina (at Declude) sent us email on 6/2/2006 that this would 
be corrected in JUNE and still has not.  One of the problems is 
with broken images.
 
-Erik
 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy 
  SchmidtSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:36 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
  install Declude 3.1.20 anew
  Hi,
   
  I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus 
  downloaded and ran:
   
  Declude_IM_N310.exe
   
  and chose the option to let it do its install (rather 
  than the option for "experienced" admins). 
  PS - that screen has a typo!
   
  The setup created a 
  
   
      C:\Program Files\Declude 
  
   
  folder that contains just the 5 config files it also 
  created the SAME files in:
   
      
  D:\Imail\Declude
   
  together with binaries and the various other Declude 
  files.
   
  I'm at loss! 
   
  Which location is the "right" one for the config 
  files (I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)?
   
  What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in 
  the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that 
  are not being used at all (assuming that being the 
  case)?
   
  Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to 
  avoid confusion when someone else maintains this 
  server?
   
  Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - 
  are we still trying to confuse the Russians?
  
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
   
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  Experience with 4.x
  Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm 
  using the following settings right now:
  THREADS        
30WAITFORMAIL    500WAITFORTHREADS    
    200WAITBETWEENTHREADS    
100WINSOCKCLEANUP        
OFFINVITEFIX    ONAUTOREVIEW    
    ONThere are a few reasons for trying these 
  values.
  THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons 
and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, 
one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are 
uncommon.  I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing 
with a backup or something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU 
utilization will actually slow the system down.  This was the same with 
2.x and before.  There is added overhead to managing threads and you 
don't want that to happen on top of 100% CPU utilization.  I am going 
to back up my server later tonight to see if I can't find what the magic 
number is since I don't want to be below that magic number, and it would 
probably be best to be a little above it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On 
my server, this never kicks in, but if it did, it wouldn't make sense to 
delay for too long because I could build up messages.  A half second 
seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - This apparently kicks in only 
when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a throttle.  I don't want it 
to be too long because this should only happen when I am hammered, but it is 
wise not to keep hammering when you are at 100%.  Sort of a mixed bag 
choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100 - I see this setting as 
being the biggest issue with sizing a server.  Setting it at 100 ms 
means that I can only handle 10 messages per second, and this establishes an 
upper limit for what the server can do.   I currently average 
about 5 messages per second coming from my gateways at peak hours, so I 
figured that to be safe, I should double that value.INVITEFIX 
ON - I have it on because it comes on by default and I don't know any 
better.  I know nothing about the cause for needing this outside of 
brief comments.  It seems strange that my Declude setup could ruin an 
invitation unless I was using footers.  If this is only triggered by 
footer use, I would like to know so that I could turn it off.  I would 
imagine that this causes extra load to do the check.AUTOREVIEW 
ON - I have this on for the same reason that Andrew pointed out.  
When I restart Decludeproc, messages land in my review folder, and I don't 
wish to keep manually fishing things out.  If there is an issue with 
looping, it would be wise for Declude to make this only trigger say every 15 
   

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew

2006-07-12 Thread David Barker



The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be 
deleted after the install. The original purpose of this directory was to make 
available the latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since 
been removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory 
which has the same purpose.
David 
B
www.declude.com


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:36 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to 
install Declude 3.1.20 anew

Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus 
downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than 
the option for "experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 

 
    C:\Program Files\Declude 

 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also 
created the SAME files in:
 
    
D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude 
files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files 
(I'm assuming the D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in 
the C:\Program Files\ that contains no programs and that contains files that are 
not being used at all (assuming that being the 
case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid 
confusion when someone else maintains this 
server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are 
we still trying to confuse the Russians?

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
 


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MattSent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Experience with 4.x
Andrew,Thanks for your notes and their history.I'm 
using the following settings right now:
THREADS        
  30WAITFORMAIL    500WAITFORTHREADS    
      200WAITBETWEENTHREADS    
  100WINSOCKCLEANUP        
  OFFINVITEFIX    ONAUTOREVIEW    
      ONThere are a few reasons for trying these 
values.
THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons 
  and RAID can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, 
  one single message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon.  
  I figure that if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or 
  something, launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually 
  slow the system down.  This was the same with 2.x and before.  There 
  is added overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top 
  of 100% CPU utilization.  I am going to back up my server later tonight 
  to see if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below 
  that magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above 
  it.WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if 
  it did, it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up 
  messages.  A half second seems good.WAITFORTHREADS 200 - 
  This apparently kicks in only when I reach my thread limit; sort of like a 
  throttle.  I don't want it to be too long because this should only happen 
  when I am hammered, but it is wise not to keep hammering when you are at 
  100%.  Sort of a mixed bag choice here.WAITBETWEENTHREADS 
  100 - I see this setting as being the biggest issue with sizing a 
  server.  Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only handle 10 messages 
  per second, and this establishes an upper limit for what the server can 
  do.   I currently average about 5 messages per second coming from my 
  gateways at peak hours, so I figured that to be safe, I should double that 
  value.INVITEFIX ON - I have it on because it comes on by 
  default and I don't know any better.  I know nothing about the cause for 
  needing this outside of brief comments.  It seems strange that my Declude 
  setup could ruin an invitation unless I was using footers.  If this is 
  only triggered by footer use, I would like to know so that I could turn it 
  off.  I would imagine that this causes extra load to do the 
  check.AUTOREVIEW ON - I have this on for the same reason that 
  Andrew pointed out.  When I restart Decludeproc, messages land in my 
  review folder, and I don't wish to keep manually fishing things out.  If 
  there is an issue with looping, it would be wise for Declude to make this only 
  trigger say every 15 minutes instead of more regularly.Feel 
free to add to this if you 
want.MattColbeck, Andrew 
wrote: 

  
  I'd second that... on both the observed behaviour and the 
  request for documentation.
   
  I'm attaching my highly commented declude.cfg 
  as a reasonable sample.
   
  Andrew 8)
   
   
  


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