Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread R. Scott Perry

I need some suggestions on how to block the Sobig virus from even being 
processed by Declude. The amount of processes are so high it is causing 
extreme latency and causing SMTP to not respond as well as time out. ANY 
help is highly appreciated.
The best way is to go through the viruses that are received, sort them by 
IP, and use IMail's SMTP Control Access file to block the worst offenders.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
You would need to block it before Imail receives it.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

I need some suggestions on how to block the Sobig virus from even being
processed by Declude. The amount of processes are so high it is causing
extreme latency and causing SMTP to not respond as well as time out. ANY
help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

James R. Skivers
Network Administrator
Web One Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://astra1.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Title: Message



 The one thing I've been doing since the "invasion" 
began was use our secondary mail server to block the IP's of infected 
machines. Most of the infected messages seem to come through this machine 
first. We're running Sendmail (with webmin interface; a lot easier to 
admin a linux box)and just editing /etc/mail/access file and adding the 
ip's seems to have cut back significantly.

 I've added the ip's of blocked computers just to show 
how bad it's gotten for us.

68.198.54.158REJECT68.21.239.190REJECT66.121.151.50REJECT12.24.245.12REJECT65.16.62.133REJECT68.21.234.46REJECT24.159.60.200REJECT206.241.2.71REJECT64.147.6.241REJECT67.81.61.57REJECT64.30.194.34REJECT68.36.190.124REJECT68.52.195.199REJECT63.164.145.33REJECT64.238.101.148REJECT68.156.224.121REJECT24.170.148.211REJECT131.123.194.222REJECT65.106.147.178REJECT64.42.16.202REJECT24.211.10.41REJECT200.71.130.17REJECT167.206.206.195REJECT66.127.198.198REJECT162.40.222.119REJECT208.40.28.196REJECT24.208.129.78REJECT207.225.67.82REJECT159.247.3.210REJECT62.203.100.247REJECT67.121.153.139REJECT61.171.135.186REJECT166.102.18.250REJECT208.191.162.43REJECT66.207.240.194REJECT67.22.187.165REJECT66.0.236.20REJECT67.124.159.88REJECT172.195.161.72REJECT218.74.215.84REJECT218.4.189.195REJECT67.123.8.79REJECT24.192.246.239REJECT67.35.8.41REJECT67.124.156.242REJECT218.154.254.90REJECT68.211.150.190REJECT216.78.60.164REJECT24.56.47.175REJECT209.145.206.61REJECT68.154.104.93REJECT24.51.83.89REJECT61.11.73.184REJECT68.158.221.166REJECT209.114.230.52REJECT207.233.213.6REJECT143.111.23.145REJECT68.42.36.205REJECT12.224.192.252REJECT68.211.189.49REJECT192.216.156.19REJECT24.228.47.53REJECT68.36.3.18REJECT209.42.33.176REJECT67.124.41.187REJECT61.77.77.26REJECT62.56.134.108REJECT68.211.254.102REJECT67.34.231.144REJECT68.154.105.182REJECT68.75.177.204REJECT199.8.235.219REJECT64.204.5.34REJECT24.51.80.32REJECT68.74.150.211REJECT218.148.9.3REJECT68.42.56.220REJECT208.61.30.204REJECT12.248.55.60REJECT202.69.84.212REJECT61.171.70.153REJECT24.53.88.127REJECT64.223.33.234REJECT66.68.84.60REJECT67.34.240.3REJECT68.158.34.212REJECT68.158.98.7REJECT162.40.32.115REJECT66.228.145.47REJECT209.90.85.25REJECT213.136.106.126REJECT217.164.73.133REJECT61.189.204.100REJECT200.67.179.81REJECT61.189.203.191REJECT217.164.72.55REJECT61.189.203.246REJECT217.164.72.29REJECT68.211.224.163REJECT200.67.179.50REJECT68.80.143.188REJECT209.142.243.81REJECT204.117.50.140REJECT68.154.64.14REJECT162.83.176.132REJECT65.73.95.99REJECT196.21.128.1REJECT67.80.139.111REJECT68.154.70.39REJECT139.55.233.177REJECT162.40.37.192REJECT62.80.224.31REJECT203.129.202.18REJECT162.40.38.232REJECT162.40.35.90REJECT217.23.38.139REJECT68.211.233.11REJECT67.64.6.246REJECT208.180.60.231REJECT68.159.166.134REJECT67.86.70.25REJECT24.99.10.242REJECT209.53.213.216REJECT138.88.207.116REJECT66.76.141.52REJECT208.57.145.28REJECT66.123.232.6REJECT66.13.214.118REJECT68.43.11.199REJECT207.232.103.155REJECT208.57.105.248REJECT68.153.69.21REJECT66.190.154.21REJECT4.41.189.36REJECT24.218.40.135REJECT216.170.5.59REJECT68.113.10.240REJECT24.199.82.174REJECT68.58.112.228REJECT172.128.42.74REJECT206.230.185.42REJECT65.57.29.48REJECT156.110.31.162REJECT172.175.113.206REJECT24.126.130.151REJECT208.255.242.58REJECT66.76.135.192REJECT65.64.25.225REJECT67.34.236.66REJECT162.40.37.6REJECT


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread James R. Skivers
Yeah I was thinking about using our Cisco and throwing in an access list
to deny SMTP from the source IP, only problem with that is we're a large
ISP and would be blocking mainly our own users who have received the
virus via hotmail or yahoo accounts. (Tier 1 call volume go *boom*) ^_^

James R. Skivers
Network Administrator
Web One Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://astra1.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

You would need to block it before Imail receives it.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com

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Skivers
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'R. Scott Perry'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

I need some suggestions on how to block the Sobig virus from even being
processed by Declude. The amount of processes are so high it is causing
extreme latency and causing SMTP to not respond as well as time out. ANY
help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

James R. Skivers
Network Administrator
Web One Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://astra1.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread James R. Skivers
Title: Message









Thanks, that sounds doable. We have almost
the exact same setup, Ill give that a try and
throw that on our BMX box.





James R. Skivers

Network Administrator

Web One Inc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://astra1.com



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Using Declude to block Sobig Virus






The one thing I've been doing since the invasion began was use our
secondary mail server to block the IP's of infected machines. Most of the
infected messages seem to come through this machine first. We're running
Sendmail (with webmin interface; a lot easier to admin a linux box)and
just editing /etc/mail/access file and adding the ip's seems to have cut back
significantly.












I've added the ip's of blocked computers just to show how bad it's gotten for
us.











68.198.54.158REJECT
68.21.239.190REJECT
66.121.151.50REJECT
12.24.245.12REJECT
65.16.62.133REJECT
68.21.234.46REJECT
24.159.60.200REJECT
206.241.2.71REJECT
64.147.6.241REJECT
67.81.61.57REJECT
64.30.194.34REJECT
68.36.190.124REJECT
68.52.195.199REJECT
63.164.145.33REJECT
64.238.101.148REJECT
68.156.224.121REJECT
24.170.148.211REJECT
131.123.194.222REJECT
65.106.147.178REJECT
64.42.16.202REJECT
24.211.10.41REJECT
200.71.130.17REJECT
167.206.206.195REJECT
66.127.198.198REJECT
162.40.222.119REJECT
208.40.28.196REJECT
24.208.129.78REJECT
207.225.67.82REJECT
159.247.3.210REJECT
62.203.100.247REJECT
67.121.153.139REJECT
61.171.135.186REJECT
166.102.18.250REJECT
208.191.162.43REJECT
66.207.240.194REJECT
67.22.187.165REJECT
66.0.236.20REJECT
67.124.159.88REJECT
172.195.161.72REJECT
218.74.215.84REJECT
218.4.189.195REJECT
67.123.8.79REJECT
24.192.246.239REJECT
67.35.8.41REJECT
67.124.156.242REJECT
218.154.254.90REJECT
68.211.150.190REJECT
216.78.60.164REJECT
24.56.47.175REJECT
209.145.206.61REJECT
68.154.104.93REJECT
24.51.83.89REJECT
61.11.73.184REJECT
68.158.221.166REJECT
209.114.230.52REJECT
207.233.213.6REJECT
143.111.23.145REJECT
68.42.36.205REJECT
12.224.192.252REJECT
68.211.189.49REJECT
192.216.156.19REJECT
24.228.47.53REJECT
68.36.3.18REJECT
209.42.33.176REJECT
67.124.41.187REJECT
61.77.77.26REJECT
62.56.134.108REJECT
68.211.254.102REJECT
67.34.231.144REJECT
68.154.105.182REJECT
68.75.177.204REJECT
199.8.235.219REJECT
64.204.5.34REJECT
24.51.80.32REJECT
68.74.150.211REJECT
218.148.9.3REJECT
68.42.56.220REJECT
208.61.30.204REJECT
12.248.55.60REJECT
202.69.84.212REJECT
61.171.70.153REJECT
24.53.88.127REJECT
64.223.33.234REJECT
66.68.84.60REJECT
67.34.240.3REJECT
68.158.34.212REJECT
68.158.98.7REJECT
162.40.32.115REJECT
66.228.145.47REJECT
209.90.85.25REJECT
213.136.106.126REJECT
217.164.73.133REJECT
61.189.204.100REJECT
200.67.179.81REJECT
61.189.203.191REJECT
217.164.72.55REJECT
61.189.203.246REJECT
217.164.72.29REJECT
68.211.224.163REJECT
200.67.179.50REJECT
68.80.143.188REJECT
209.142.243.81REJECT
204.117.50.140REJECT
68.154.64.14REJECT
162.83.176.132REJECT
65.73.95.99REJECT
196.21.128.1REJECT
67.80.139.111REJECT
68.154.70.39REJECT
139.55.233.177REJECT
162.40.37.192REJECT
62.80.224.31REJECT
203.129.202.18REJECT
162.40.38.232REJECT
162.40.35.90REJECT
217.23.38.139REJECT
68.211.233.11REJECT
67.64.6.246REJECT
208.180.60.231REJECT
68.159.166.134REJECT
67.86.70.25REJECT
24.99.10.242REJECT
209.53.213.216REJECT
138.88.207.116REJECT
66.76.141.52REJECT
208.57.145.28REJECT
66.123.232.6REJECT
66.13.214.118REJECT
68.43.11.199REJECT
207.232.103.155REJECT
208.57.105.248REJECT
68.153.69.21REJECT
66.190.154.21REJECT
4.41.189.36REJECT
24.218.40.135REJECT
216.170.5.59REJECT
68.113.10.240REJECT
24.199.82.174REJECT
68.58.112.228REJECT
172.128.42.74REJECT
206.230.185.42REJECT
65.57.29.48REJECT
156.110.31.162REJECT
172.175.113.206REJECT
24.126.130.151REJECT
208.255.242.58REJECT
66.76.135.192REJECT
65.64.25.225REJECT
67.34.236.66REJECT
162.40.37.6REJECT










RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread James R. Skivers
Simply because my goal is to block it before Declude or my server has a
chance to process it.

James R. Skivers
Network Administrator
Web One Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://astra1.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Star
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

 I need some suggestions on how to block the Sobig virus from even
being
 processed by Declude. The amount of processes are so high it is
causing
 extreme latency and causing SMTP to not respond as well as time out.
ANY
 help is highly appreciated.

 The best way is to go through the viruses that are received, sort them
by
 IP, and use IMail's SMTP Control Access file to block the worst
offenders.


Why not use the Declude BLACKLIST feature?

  -- Dan

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread R. Scott Perry

 The best way is to go through the viruses that are received, sort them by
 IP, and use IMail's SMTP Control Access file to block the worst offenders.
Why not use the Declude BLACKLIST feature?
Because the IMail SMTP Control Access file will prevent the connection from 
even occurring, which will save on bandwidth (about 100K per virus 
blocked).  It also saves some other resources, such as CPU usage, that 
would be used if it was received and scanned.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Simply state you are blocked because your computer is infected with a virus.
Once your computer is cleaned, we will unblock.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James R. Skivers
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus
 
 Yeah I was thinking about using our Cisco and throwing in an access list
 to deny SMTP from the source IP, only problem with that is we're a large
 ISP and would be blocking mainly our own users who have received the
 virus via hotmail or yahoo accounts. (Tier 1 call volume go *boom*) ^_^
 
 James R. Skivers
 Network Administrator
 Web One Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://astra1.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus
 
 You would need to block it before Imail receives it.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com
 
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 Skivers
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:19 AM
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 Cc: 'R. Scott Perry'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus
 
 I need some suggestions on how to block the Sobig virus from even being
 processed by Declude. The amount of processes are so high it is causing
 extreme latency and causing SMTP to not respond as well as time out. ANY
 help is highly appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 James R. Skivers
 Network Administrator
 Web One Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://astra1.com
 
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Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread Doug McKee
If I am using Declude as a gateway and block the offending IP, will I not also have to 
block the IP in the real mail server as well?

Doug

Because the IMail SMTP Control Access file will prevent the connection from even 
occurring, which will save on bandwidth (about 100K per virus blocked).  It also 
saves some other resources, such as CPU usage, that would be used if it was received 
and scanned.



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread Matthew Bramble

If I am using Declude as a gateway and block the offending IP, will I not also have to block the IP in the real mail server as well?

Doug
 

IMail actually hands off the mail to Declude after running it's 
filters.  The recommendation apparently will reject the messages based 
on IP during the SMTP handshaking so the messages themselves will never 
even arrive on your box.  The processing order is as follows:

1. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs)
2. IMail's Kill List (to block return addresses)
3. Declude Virus
4. Declude Hijack
5. Declude JunkMail
6. IMail's filters
Matt

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Using Declude to block Sobig Virus

2003-09-04 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I agree with Scott but I took it a step further. I setup a SOBIG filter and
forwarded the so big email to a special account. I then looked at the
connecting ip and added that to my trap. I then tracked down the owner of
the ip and notified a host on their network had the virus. What will not be
blocked are the emails that you will get that are bouce messages and virus
warnings from server where your users emails have been spoofed.

2 weeks a go we were being hit by at lease 10 machines sending us SOBIG
emails. Now we are only receiving them from 1 machine.

If you do not try to notify them then they are going to infect other
machines which can cause you to be hit from other IP addresses you will also
continue to receive the bounce and virus warning emails.

Here is my filter

REMOTEIP 0 IS x.x.x.x
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: Details
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: Approved
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: Re: My details
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: Thank you!
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: That movie
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: Wicked screensaver
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Re: Your application
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS Thank you!
SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS details


Kevin Bilbee


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 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:32 AM
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 I need some suggestions on how to block the Sobig virus from even being
 processed by Declude. The amount of processes are so high it is causing
 extreme latency and causing SMTP to not respond as well as time out. ANY
 help is highly appreciated.

 The best way is to go through the viruses that are received, sort them by
 IP, and use IMail's SMTP Control Access file to block the worst offenders.

 -Scott
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