Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-06 Thread andyb



Thanks everyone, I have it working.  It was 
also necessary to go to the $defualt$.junkmail config file and add MYFILTER WARN 
so I could see the results in spam review.
 
Thanks, Andy
 


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-06 Thread Matthew Bramble




Very interesting.  Looks like the @b. thing is a standard in some piece
of VERP software.  BTW, unless you (generally) are extremely agressive
(sans FiveTen), this would be a very bad idea to implement as a
filter.  So please ignore my initial filter submission...but I've got
something bulletproof to replace it.

This spammer that we were trying to identify with that string was
probably Douglas Fields of Pexicom, Inc.  His old
network is in SBL (SBL5185), but it appears that he went out and
registered some new  blocks of addresses, and got others through
Above.net, from which he also get's bandwidth.  If anyone knows how to
report him to SBL, it might help a lot of people.  I couldn't figure
out how to report during a cursory search of their site.

With the help of your file, a bunch of data from past spam captures,
that header clue that exposed his software, and a little DNS work...I
came up with 9 new blocks not in SBL with reverse DNS names with 9
addresses each (ns1, ns2, www and mail1 through mail6).  I won't assume
for a second that is all, but it's a lot and considering the age of
many of the domains, he hasn't yet exposed all of his servers to the
RBL's (less than 1/4 were in a multi-week 150 MB capture that found all
of this stuff).  If he wasn't failing BADHEADERS, some of this would
have gotten through on my server, so I wrote it as a filter just for
this one guy and attached it to this note.  Implement safely with the
following line, and kill the filter after SBL picks it up.

- Global.cfg -
PEXICOM   filter   C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\Pexicom.txt    x   25  
0

My guess is that this guy was approaching 1% of my total E-mail volume,
which is pretty serious, though one of the crud spammers is currently
doing about 5% I think.  Hopefully he'll stay put for a while seing as
how ARIN has him on record:

Matt



Bill Landry wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Attached are a couple of scripts
(and sample output) that can be used, if using log level MID or higher,
to output the "From" e-mail address and sending IP address (first
script), or output just the sending IP addresses, listed by count
(second script).
   
  HTH,
   
  Bill
  
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From:
Matthew
Bramble 
To:
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Sent:
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Subject:
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


Andy,

I tried sending this twice, but I think Scott's server blocked it
because of the content in the headers, so the headers are attached as a
zip this time.  Your global.cfg would have something like the following
and the adjusted filter file is in the original reply pasted below
(name the filter whatever you wish).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]    filter  
C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\[EMAIL PROTECTED]    x   5   0


Then the original reply (adjusted a little)...

Matt


Actually, I think this one is in the format of [EMAIL PROTECTED],
so the filter would need to be:

MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I put a number before the domain because it appears that this spammer
uses VERP and the pattern always has a number before the "@b." so this
will help protect from false positives.  I just wouldn't necessaarily
kill it for just this one thing, and I don't think you have to because
this stuff isn't getting through my server, so it's picking up points
from RBL's and other things.

I've seen this stuff coming through my own machine and noted it because
of the question earlier.  I fear that the pattern is only temporary,
but if I'm not mistaken, this is from one of the contest type of
spammers with a set group of IP's that they send out from.  You could
more effectively search for hits and take the IP addresses out and then
filter for those as long-term prevention in the event that this pattern
fails (which I expect it will).  Bill could probably grep that info
from his logs in seconds :)  Be sure to share if you do.  I wouldn't
bother with the domain names because they seem to be very temporary.

Here are three such headers from this spammer, and all of the domain
names were registered recently through pairNIC.com, http://whois.pairnic.com/

Matt


andyb wrote:

  So, the line

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?

Thanks,

Andy

- Original Message -----
From: "R. Scott Perry&qu

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-06 Thread Bill Landry



Attached are a couple of scripts (and sample 
output) that can be used, if using log level MID or higher, to output the 
"From" e-mail address and sending IP address (first script), or output just the 
sending IP addresses, listed by count (second script).
 
HTH,
 
Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matthew Bramble 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:21 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more 
  try...
  Andy,I tried sending this twice, but I think Scott's 
  server blocked it because of the content in the headers, so the headers are 
  attached as a zip this time.  Your global.cfg would have something like 
  the following and the adjusted filter file is in the original reply pasted 
  below (name the filter whatever you wish).[EMAIL PROTECTED]    
  filter   C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\[EMAIL PROTECTED]    
  x   5   0Then the original reply (adjusted a 
  little)...MattActually, I think this one is in the format 
  of [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  so the filter would need to be:MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]I put a number before the domain because it 
  appears that this spammer uses VERP and the pattern always has a number before 
  the "@b." so this will help protect from false positives.  I just 
  wouldn't necessaarily kill it for just this one thing, and I don't think you 
  have to because this stuff isn't getting through my server, so it's picking up 
  points from RBL's and other things.I've seen this stuff coming through 
  my own machine and noted it because of the question earlier.  I fear that 
  the pattern is only temporary, but if I'm not mistaken, this is from one of 
  the contest type of spammers with a set group of IP's that they send out 
  from.  You could more effectively search for hits and take the IP 
  addresses out and then filter for those as long-term prevention in the event 
  that this pattern fails (which I expect it will).  Bill could probably 
  grep that info from his logs in seconds :)  Be sure to share if you 
  do.  I wouldn't bother with the domain names because they seem to be very 
  temporary.Here are three such headers from this spammer, and all of 
  the domain names were registered recently through pairNIC.com, http://whois.pairnic.com/Mattandyb 
  wrote:
  So, the line

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?

Thanks,

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


  

  to be sure, the syntax would be:

in Global.cfg:
MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

In myfilter.txt:
MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
  That would work fine.


  Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
  once.
  
Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is a
combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER
filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM 5"
line).

In this case, you might instead want to use:

 MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Here is the format:

TESTNAME testtype 1stparameter 2ndparameter failweight passweight

Here are the various types:

WEIGHT weight notused notused triggerweightfail
WEIGHTRANGE weightrange notused notused triggerweightstart triggerweightend
DNSTEST ip4r testaddress returncode(ifneeded) failweight passweight
DNSTEST rhsbl testaddress returncode(ifneeded) failweight passweight
FROMFILE fromfile filelocation notused failweight passweight
FILTER filter filelocation notused failweight passweight
EXTERNAL external returncode programlocationandswitches failweight
passweight

> It appears that is because for the MYFILTER test,
> c:\Imail\declude\myfilter.txt is used in place of the first x?

Yes.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> 
> I believe my confusion is that all of the other tests are listed as
> 
> x x 5 0
> 
> And this one only has one X
> 
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
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> 
> >
> > >MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
> > >
> > >should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?
> >
> > No.  That will give E-mails that do NOT fail the test a weight of 5.
> >
> > Test name, test type, 2 pieces of test-specific information, standard
> > weight, negative (pass) weight.
> >
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread andyb



Hi Matt,
 
I realize catching spam is like trying to hit a moving target...I spend 
more time dealing with email issues than everything else as an ISP 
combined.  
 
Declude is catching 100's of these daily but only as a HOLD (with a 
weight of 10) with my current configs.  The goal is to add a weight of 5, 
which would push the total weight above 15, then it would get DELETEd.  
(and make it so I have a few  hundred less email to review for false 
positives)
 
This should also protect against false positives, because legit email 
should still stay below 9, and certainly below 15 (say for example if the email 
was [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
When I'm less tired, I'm going to spend some time digesting your listed 
example.
 
Thanks, andy
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matthew Bramble 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:21 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more 
  try...
  Andy,I tried sending this twice, but I think Scott's 
  server blocked it because of the content in the headers, so the headers are 
  attached as a zip this time.  Your global.cfg would have something like 
  the following and the adjusted filter file is in the original reply pasted 
  below (name the filter whatever you wish).[EMAIL PROTECTED]    
  filter   C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\[EMAIL PROTECTED]    
  x   5   0Then the original reply (adjusted a 
  little)...MattActually, I think this one is in the format 
  of [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  so the filter would need to be:MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]MAILFROM   0   
  CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]I put a number before the domain because it 
  appears that this spammer uses VERP and the pattern always has a number before 
  the "@b." so this will help protect from false positives.  I just 
  wouldn't necessaarily kill it for just this one thing, and I don't think you 
  have to because this stuff isn't getting through my server, so it's picking up 
  points from RBL's and other things.I've seen this stuff coming through 
  my own machine and noted it because of the question earlier.  I fear that 
  the pattern is only temporary, but if I'm not mistaken, this is from one of 
  the contest type of spammers with a set group of IP's that they send out 
  from.  You could more effectively search for hits and take the IP 
  addresses out and then filter for those as long-term prevention in the event 
  that this pattern fails (which I expect it will).  Bill could probably 
  grep that info from his logs in seconds :)  Be sure to share if you 
  do.  I wouldn't bother with the domain names because they seem to be very 
  temporary.Here are three such headers from this spammer, and all of 
  the domain names were registered recently through pairNIC.com, http://whois.pairnic.com/Mattandyb 
  wrote:
  So, the line

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?

Thanks,

Andy

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From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


  

  to be sure, the syntax would be:

in Global.cfg:
MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

In myfilter.txt:
MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
  That would work fine.


  Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
  once.
  
Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is a
combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER
filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM 5"
line).

In this case, you might instead want to use:

 MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread andyb
I believe my confusion is that all of the other tests are listed as

x x 5 0

And this one only has one X

It appears that is because for the MYFILTER test,
c:\Imail\declude\myfilter.txt is used in place of the first x?

Thanks for the help.

Andy


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From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


>
> >MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
> >
> >should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?
>
> No.  That will give E-mails that do NOT fail the test a weight of 5.
>
> Test name, test type, 2 pieces of test-specific information, standard
> weight, negative (pass) weight.
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread Matthew Bramble




BTW, actually two of those three headers are from the same company. 
You can also easily identify this spam company with a filter for the
following unique code which might be safer than the other technique
(though, only slightly more so):

HEADERS    0    CONTAINS    X-JLH: 

Be sure to include a space after the colon just to be safe.  You might
want to pack this together with the others just in case he stops using
the @b. technique, but still, knowing the IP's would be the best.

Matt



Matthew Bramble wrote:

  
  
Andy,
  
I tried sending this twice, but I think Scott's server blocked it
because of the content in the headers, so the headers are attached as a
zip this time.  Your global.cfg would have something like the following
and the adjusted filter file is in the original reply pasted below
(name the filter whatever you wish).
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    filter   C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
x   5  
0
  
  
Then the original reply (adjusted a little)...
  
Matt
  
  
Actually, I think this one is in the format of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
so the filter
would need to be:
  
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
I put a number before the domain because it appears that this spammer
uses VERP and the pattern always has a number before the "@b." so this
will help protect from false positives.  I just wouldn't necessaarily
kill it for just this one thing, and I don't think you have to because
this stuff isn't getting through my server, so it's picking up points
from RBL's and other things.
  
I've seen this stuff coming through my own machine and noted it because
of the question earlier.  I fear that the pattern is only temporary,
but if I'm not mistaken, this is from one of the contest type of
spammers with a set group of IP's that they send out from.  You could
more effectively search for hits and take the IP addresses out and then
filter for those as long-term prevention in the event that this pattern
fails (which I expect it will).  Bill could probably grep that info
from his logs in seconds :)  Be sure to share if you do.  I wouldn't
bother with the domain names because they seem to be very temporary.
  
Here are three such headers from this spammer, and all of the domain
names were registered recently through pairNIC.com,
  http://whois.pairnic.com/
  
Matt
  
  
andyb wrote:
  
So, the line

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?

Thanks,

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


  

  
to be sure, the syntax would be:

in Global.cfg:
MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

In myfilter.txt:
MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
  
  
  That would work fine.


  
Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
  
  

once.
  

  Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is a
combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER
filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM 5"
line).

In this case, you might instead want to use:

 MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.

-Scott
  

  





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread Matthew Bramble




Andy,

I tried sending this twice, but I think Scott's server blocked it
because of the content in the headers, so the headers are attached as a
zip this time.  Your global.cfg would have something like the following
and the adjusted filter file is in the original reply pasted below
(name the filter whatever you wish).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]    filter   C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\[EMAIL PROTECTED]    x   5  
0


Then the original reply (adjusted a little)...

Matt


Actually, I think this one is in the format of
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
so the filter
would need to be:

MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILFROM   0   CONTAINS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I put a number before the domain because it appears that this spammer
uses VERP and the pattern always has a number before the "@b." so this
will help protect from false positives.  I just wouldn't necessaarily
kill it for just this one thing, and I don't think you have to because
this stuff isn't getting through my server, so it's picking up points
from RBL's and other things.

I've seen this stuff coming through my own machine and noted it because
of the question earlier.  I fear that the pattern is only temporary,
but if I'm not mistaken, this is from one of the contest type of
spammers with a set group of IP's that they send out from.  You could
more effectively search for hits and take the IP addresses out and then
filter for those as long-term prevention in the event that this pattern
fails (which I expect it will).  Bill could probably grep that info
from his logs in seconds :)  Be sure to share if you do.  I wouldn't
bother with the domain names because they seem to be very temporary.

Here are three such headers from this spammer, and all of the domain
names were registered recently through pairNIC.com,
http://whois.pairnic.com/

Matt


andyb wrote:

  So, the line

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?

Thanks,

Andy

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  to be sure, the syntax would be:

in Global.cfg:
MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

In myfilter.txt:
MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
  

That would work fine.



  Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
  

  
  once.
  
  
Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is a
combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER
filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM 5"
line).

In this case, you might instead want to use:

 MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If you want all the lines in that filter to have the same weight, it should
be this:

MYFILTER filter C:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0 in the global.cfg
MAILFROM 0 STARTSWITH b. in the myfilter.txt file.

If you want each line in the filter to have its own weight, it should be
this:

MYFILTER filter C:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x x 0 0 in the global.cfg
MAILFROM 5 STARTSWITH b. in the myfilter.txt file.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> 
> So, the line
> 
> MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
> 
> should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> 
> 
> >
> > >to be sure, the syntax would be:
> > >
> > >in Global.cfg:
> > >MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
> > >
> > >In myfilter.txt:
> > >MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
> >
> > That would work fine.
> >
> > >Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
> once.
> >
> > Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is
> a
> > combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER
> > filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM
> 5"
> > line).
> >
> > In this case, you might instead want to use:
> >
> >  MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.
> >
> > -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread R. Scott Perry

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?
No.  That will give E-mails that do NOT fail the test a weight of 5.

Test name, test type, 2 pieces of test-specific information, standard 
weight, negative (pass) weight.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread andyb
So, the line

MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

should have 2 x's because of the 2 tiered weighting system I'm using?

Thanks,

Andy

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


>
> >to be sure, the syntax would be:
> >
> >in Global.cfg:
> >MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
> >
> >In myfilter.txt:
> >MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
>
> That would work fine.
>
> >Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
once.
>
> Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is a
> combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER
> filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM 5"
> line).
>
> In this case, you might instead want to use:
>
>  MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.
>
> -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If you wanted to add 5 to any message caught by anything in the filter, you
would add five in the test definition in the Global.cfg.

However, if you want to add weight to each line in the filter, you would
leave the weight on the test itself to 0 and put the weight value in the
second column in the filter file.

John Tolmachoff
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> 
> to be sure, the syntax would be:
> 
> in Global.cfg:
> MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
> 
> In myfilter.txt:
> MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
> 
> Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added
> once.
> Upon reading the on-line junk mail manual, this point isn't clear.
> 
> First time using the filter file.  I'm using a dual weight system, 1st
> tier
> is hold, 2nd tier deletes.
> 
> Thanks, andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> 
> 
> > Filter file.
> >
> > MAILFROM (weighttoadd) STARTSWITH b.
> >
> > John Tolmachoff
> > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:53 PM
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> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've asked a couple of times over the past couple of weeks, but
> thought
> > > I'd
> > > ask one more time...
> > >
> > > I get a lot of spam with return addresses that start with b.
> > > ie:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Is there anyway to filter that in declude or in the Imail kill list?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Andy
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread R. Scott Perry

to be sure, the syntax would be:

in Global.cfg:
MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0
In myfilter.txt:
MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.
That would work fine.

Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added once.
Yes, that would add the weight twice.  The total weight for the test is a 
combination of the general weight for the test (the "5" in the "MYFILTER 
filter" line) plus the weight for each line that matches (the "MAILFROM 5" 
line).

In this case, you might instead want to use:

MAILFROM0STARTSWITH b.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread andyb
to be sure, the syntax would be:

in Global.cfg:
MYFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x x 5 0

In myfilter.txt:
MAILFROM5STARTSWITH b.

Isn't this adding the weight of 5 twice?  I'd like it to only be added once.
Upon reading the on-line junk mail manual, this point isn't clear.

First time using the filter file.  I'm using a dual weight system, 1st tier
is hold, 2nd tier deletes.

Thanks, andy

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...


> Filter file.
>
> MAILFROM (weighttoadd) STARTSWITH b.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:53 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've asked a couple of times over the past couple of weeks, but thought
> > I'd
> > ask one more time...
> >
> > I get a lot of spam with return addresses that start with b.
> > ie:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Is there anyway to filter that in declude or in the Imail kill list?
> >
> > Thanks, Andy
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...

2003-11-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Filter file.

MAILFROM(weighttoadd)   STARTSWITH  b.

John Tolmachoff
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:53 PM
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> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] one more try...
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've asked a couple of times over the past couple of weeks, but thought
> I'd
> ask one more time...
> 
> I get a lot of spam with return addresses that start with b.
> ie:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Is there anyway to filter that in declude or in the Imail kill list?
> 
> Thanks, Andy
> 
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