[Declude.JunkMail] GLOBAL.BAK No Longer Shared?

2004-02-24 Thread Dan Geiser
Kami,
I noticed that your current GLOBAL.BAK file is 0 bytes.  Are you no longer
sharing the contents of that file with others?

Just Curious,
Dan Geiser
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[Declude.JunkMail] BLARS Entries

2004-02-24 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
Would anyone who is using the BLARS DNSBL extensively be willing to share
their GLOBAL.CFG entries with me?

Thanks In Advance,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] GLOBAL.BAK No Longer Shared?

2004-02-24 Thread Kami Razvan
Oh Oh...

We are... I just wasn't aware of it.. Let me check.. Check back in a
minute..

Kami 

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Kami,
I noticed that your current GLOBAL.BAK file is 0 bytes.  Are you no longer
sharing the contents of that file with others?

Just Curious,
Dan Geiser
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any one have any comments on them, good or bad?

A client is asking about it.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Grosshandler
No problems here.  I use it, not extensively.

Rob

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Any one have any comments on them, good or bad?

A client is asking about it.

John Tolmachoff
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Dan Geiser
John,
If I knew then (when I first tried Plaxo) what I know now (when I discovered
some bothersome issues and have since uninstalled) I would never have
installed Plaxo.

The 2 things that leap to mind:

1)  Plaxo installs a stub program on your computer which constantly runs in
the background.  It used an excessive amount of system resources and it
seemed like poor programming practices to even have the stub program running
in the first place.

2)  When you sign up for Plaxo they make a copy of all of your Outlook
contacts in a web-based account that they setup for you.  This is supposed
to be a convenience I guess.  The thing is once my trial ended and even
though I no longer wanted to have my contacts on a web-based account with
them I cannot get them to remove that account.  Every month or so I come
back and try my logon to their web account for me and it's still functioning
and they won't delete it even after repeated requests to cancel my trial
membership.

I won't say their Evil but they are at least Chaotic Neutral.

Dan

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> Any one have any comments on them, good or bad?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
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> Any one have any comments on them, good or bad?
>
> A client is asking about it.

We ban them at work. Seems to us like a scam to get people to give them tons
of contact information, and their TOS says they won't share the info but if
they are bought by another company then of course the TOS goes out the
window. Which is more reasonable? They are out to be a good company and help
the Internet or that they are harvesting data to make themselves attractive
to buy in order to obtain that data?

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[Declude.JunkMail] Outlook & Cmdspace

2004-02-24 Thread Kami Razvan



Scott:
 
I just noticed 
that some Outlook clients are triggering CMDSPACE.
 
===
X-MSMail-Priority: 
NormalX-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 
(9.0.2910.0)X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE 
V6.00.2800.1165Importance: NormalX-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX: 
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail 
detected.X-RBL-Warning: CMDSPACE: Space found in RCPT TO: command 
.

 
This is from 
Outlook 2000.
 
Regards,
Kami


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outlook & Cmdspace

2004-02-24 Thread R. Scott Perry

I just noticed that some Outlook clients are triggering CMDSPACE.
Yes, it does appear that some mail clients are triggering CMDSPACE.

However, if local users are whitelisted, it should take care of the problem.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

> If I knew then (when I first tried Plaxo) what I know now (when I
discovered
> some bothersome issues and have since uninstalled) I would never have
> installed Plaxo.

> I won't say their Evil but they are at least Chaotic Neutral.

Oh I'd call them evil;

http://www.plaxo.com/css/support/plaxo_privacy.pdf

"In the event Plaxo goes through a business transition, such as a merger,
acquisition or the
sale of a portion of its assets, The User's Information and his/her
membership in the Plaxo
Contact NetworksT will, in most instances, be part of the assets
transferred. The user will
be notified of an ownership change pursuant to Notification of Changes
section of the
privacy statement."

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[Declude.JunkMail] Is it better to ...

2004-02-24 Thread John Carter
I know it is best to handle mail based on test results, but ... for
those FROM addresses we wish to block (the Flowgo's and the like), is it
better to:

1 - put in the Imail kill file and return the 501 message, 
or
2 - accept the message, but then delete before delivery and not send the
501 message.

More crudely put, do I put the dead body on the front porch for the
spammer to see or invite it in and throw the body in the backyard. (Do
you see what I think of spammers to have me writing in these terms?)

My thoughts are no. 2. The bandwidth has already been consumed getting
the message - there is no getting it back; why waste more returning the
501; I don't care if they know I'm blocking, but they might change
addressing to get around the block.  Or does no.2 invite more spam?

Thoughts???

John

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[Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-24 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
We are setup currently using "HOPHIGH 1".  With using a HOPHIGH setting of 
1.  What we are seeing is an increase in messages that are gettng caught 
with XBL, DSBL, SORBS, and other tests along this line on the second HOP 
even though they were legit messages that were sent through normal ISP 
servers. 

How many folks are using HOPHIGH 1?  Also, for tests like XBL, DSBL, and 
others along this line are you changing them to XBL-DUL to only work on the 
first HOP? 

Thanks
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

2004-02-24 Thread Matt




What concerns me is how they intend to make money.  Consider the fact
that they aren't making it directly from their software, hopefully
there's a plan there that first requires acceptance and mass, though
whether or not that would go over will with those here is a different
story.  I wouldn't use it for the very fact that their money making
plan isn't yet known and that will likely impact all of their users at
some point, for better or worse, if they survive.  Why commit to
leaving your address book in someone else's hands when they don't even
charge you?

If they charged, I would feel differently, because that would show a
legitimate way to make money, and a desire not to piss off paying
customers.  I'm not at all concerned though about them selling anyone's
address, though some 'Partner Spam' delivered by them would be
expected.  FYI:

http://www.plaxo.com/support/it

Matt



Joshua Levitsky wrote:

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From: "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Plaxo.com

  
  
If I knew then (when I first tried Plaxo) what I know now (when I

  
  discovered
  
  
some bothersome issues and have since uninstalled) I would never have
installed Plaxo.

  
  
  
  
I won't say their Evil but they are at least Chaotic Neutral.

  
  
Oh I'd call them evil;

http://www.plaxo.com/css/support/plaxo_privacy.pdf

"In the event Plaxo goes through a business transition, such as a merger,
acquisition or the
sale of a portion of its assets, The User's Information and his/her
membership in the Plaxo
Contact NetworksT will, in most instances, be part of the assets
transferred. The user will
be notified of an ownership change pursuant to Notification of Changes
section of the
privacy statement."

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is it better to ...

2004-02-24 Thread Jason
Actually with the kill.lst, you don't waste the bandwidth, you do on the
envelope rejection, but it is a fraction of what it would be if you just
accepted the message.  We had them in the kill.lst, but after seeing
thousands of these per day, even after they get the reject notice, we
ended up putting them in our black ice block file, and now the mail
server doesn't even have to reject it.  Guess what, black ice still
blocks thousands of these a day.


Jason


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I know it is best to handle mail based on test results, but ... for
those FROM addresses we wish to block (the Flowgo's and the like), is it
better to:

1 - put in the Imail kill file and return the 501 message, 
or
2 - accept the message, but then delete before delivery and not send the
501 message.

More crudely put, do I put the dead body on the front porch for the
spammer to see or invite it in and throw the body in the backyard. (Do
you see what I think of spammers to have me writing in these terms?)

My thoughts are no. 2. The bandwidth has already been consumed getting
the message - there is no getting it back; why waste more returning the
501; I don't care if they know I'm blocking, but they might change
addressing to get around the block.  Or does no.2 invite more spam?

Thoughts???

John

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-24 Thread Matt
You need to segment your tests between Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays and 
Static Sources.  Static sources such as SBL should have no increase in 
FP's over multiple hops, however XBL, SpamCop, ORDB and others will.  
What I do is trick Declude into splitting the test scores giving the 
last hop a higher score than a hit that sits before the last hop, but 
only for the Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays types of tests.  Here's an example:

# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)  ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.240
SPAMCOP(ALL)   ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.220
XBL(DYNA)  ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.460
XBL(ALL)   ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.420
The (DYNA) part of the name makes Declude only use that test on the last 
hop, while the (ALL) has no special function and it will hit on any hop 
that is scanned.  Last hop hits will score both, but prior hop hits will 
only score the (ALL) version for a lower score.  This definitely helped 
my spam capture rates, but I have caught some zombies that were sending 
legitimate E-mail, though they score very low and many of them pass.

I've suggested before that extra columns be added to Declude for such 
tests so that we can control the score they give according to the hop 
that they hit on.  The full description of this suggestion is in the 
recent archives.

Note that negative weight tests need to be kept exclusively to the last 
hop because they do get spoofed in forged headers, and also, RHSBL tests 
are not hop aware since they pull a domain from the MAILFROM instead of 
the hops, so you don't need to do anything special with these tests.

Matt

DLAnalyzer Support wrote:

We are setup currently using "HOPHIGH 1".  With using a HOPHIGH 
setting of 1.  What we are seeing is an increase in messages that are 
gettng caught with XBL, DSBL, SORBS, and other tests along this line 
on the second HOP even though they were legit messages that were sent 
through normal ISP servers.
How many folks are using HOPHIGH 1?  Also, for tests like XBL, DSBL, 
and others along this line are you changing them to XBL-DUL to only 
work on the first HOP?
Thanks
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-24 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Matt, 

Thats actually a very good idea I am going to incorporate.  How did you come 
up with the scoring balance between first and second hop? 

Darrell 

Matt writes: 

You need to segment your tests between Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays and Static 
Sources.  Static sources such as SBL should have no increase in FP's over 
multiple hops, however XBL, SpamCop, ORDB and others will.  What I do is 
trick Declude into splitting the test scores giving the last hop a higher 
score than a hit that sits before the last hop, but only for the 
Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays types of tests.  Here's an example: 

# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)  ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.240
SPAMCOP(ALL)   ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.220
XBL(DYNA)  ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.460
XBL(ALL)   ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.420 

The (DYNA) part of the name makes Declude only use that test on the last 
hop, while the (ALL) has no special function and it will hit on any hop 
that is scanned.  Last hop hits will score both, but prior hop hits will 
only score the (ALL) version for a lower score.  This definitely helped my 
spam capture rates, but I have caught some zombies that were sending 
legitimate E-mail, though they score very low and many of them pass. 

I've suggested before that extra columns be added to Declude for such 
tests so that we can control the score they give according to the hop that 
they hit on.  The full description of this suggestion is in the recent 
archives. 

Note that negative weight tests need to be kept exclusively to the last 
hop because they do get spoofed in forged headers, and also, RHSBL tests 
are not hop aware since they pull a domain from the MAILFROM instead of 
the hops, so you don't need to do anything special with these tests. 

Matt 

DLAnalyzer Support wrote: 

We are setup currently using "HOPHIGH 1".  With using a HOPHIGH setting 
of 1.  What we are seeing is an increase in messages that are gettng 
caught with XBL, DSBL, SORBS, and other tests along this line on the 
second HOP even though they were legit messages that were sent through 
normal ISP servers.
How many folks are using HOPHIGH 1?  Also, for tests like XBL, DSBL, and 
others along this line are you changing them to XBL-DUL to only work on 
the first HOP?
Thanks
Darrell
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[Declude.JunkMail] Log question

2004-02-24 Thread Scott Fisher
I've noticed the tests HOUR and IPNOTINMX are preceded by an n in mylogs, such as 
nHOUR and nIPNOTINMX.


02/23/2004 00:00:39 Q97050a10012a50e6 CBL:6 DSBL:6 XBL:7 SORBS-DUHL:5 SPAMCOP:9 
NOABUSE:2 NOPOSTMASTER:1 CMDSPACE:8 nHOUR:1 SUBJECTCHARS:1 SNIFFER-SNAKEOIL:13 .  
Total weight = 59.

02/23/2004 00:01:36 Q973c0a1b012a2741 AHBL:6 SBL:7 SPAMCOP:9 MAILPOLICE-BULK:7 nHOUR:1 
nIPNOTINMX:-3 SNIFFER-PORN:13 GIBBERISH:3 RECIPIENT-KEYWORDS:35 .  Total weight = 78.

from my global.cfg

HOURhour6   20  0   1
IPNOTINMX   ipnotinmx   x   x   0   -3

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Log question

2004-02-24 Thread R. Scott Perry

I've noticed the tests HOUR and IPNOTINMX are preceded by an n in mylogs, 
such as nHOUR and nIPNOTINMX.
That means that the a weight was applied because an E-mail did *not* fail 
the test.

HOURhour6   20  0   1
IPNOTINMX   ipnotinmx   x   x   0   -3
These tell Declude JunkMail to add 1 point to the weight for E-mails that 
do not fail the HOUR test, and subtract 3 points for E-mails that do not 
fail the IPNOTINMX test.

The IPNOTINMX test is designed to work that way, but for the HOUR test, you 
most likely want:

HOURhour6   20  -1   0

This will subtract 1 point from the weight of E-mail that comes in between 
6AM and 8:59PM.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo, Sendmail to test antispam system

2004-02-24 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Anyone have any comments on how effective this will be (or not...)?

http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5164279.html?tag=nefd_top


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo, Sendmail to test antispam system

2004-02-24 Thread Rick Klinge
Kinda brakes forwarding doesn't it?  Isn't this that SPF stuff?

~Rick

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-24 Thread Matt
As long as DYNA, DUL or DUHL (v1.78) appears anywhere in the name, 
Declude will only use that test on the last hop scanned.  I chose to 
name my DUL tests with DUL and reserved the DYNA marker for this use so 
that it was easier for me to understand.

Note that if you are using any whitelists, i.e. BONDEDSENDER or 
AHBL-EXEMPT, you absolutely should add DYNA to their names in order to 
prevent spammers from forging headers to get credit on prior hops.  They 
have most definitely been doing this.  I use neither test, for one, 
BONDEDSENDER has trusted spammers in the past, and AHBL-EXEMPT includes 
large ISP mail servers which do get spam relayed through them from 
zombified clients.

Matt

DLAnalyzer Support wrote:

Matt,
For the dyna/dul tests I though the test name had to end with either 
DYNA or DUL.  I noticed you use (DYNA) - does it (declude) just look 
for the work dyna or dul to limit it to one hop?
Darrell
Matt writes:

I basically came up with a rule where the (DYNA) test gets 3/4 to 2/3 
of the points, and the (ALL) test gets 1/4 to 1/3 of the points.  To 
air on the side of caution, I would step the points up on the (DYNA) 
test until it reached 3/4 and then I would add another point to the 
(ALL) test, i.e.
3 = 2 & 1
4 = 3 & 1
5 = 4 & 1
6 = 4 & 2
7 = 5 & 2
8 = 6 & 2
9 = 7 & 2
10 = 7 & 3
Here's my current list of split tests, the hardest part is 
understanding which ones qualify, and that can take some reading:
# Relay Lists (staggered scoring per hop)
AHBL-PROXIES(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org127.0.0.3
30
AHBL-PROXIES(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org127.0.0.3
10
BLITZEDALL(DYNA)ip4ropm.blitzed.org*50
BLITZEDALL(ALL)ip4ropm.blitzed.org*
20
DSBL(DYNA)ip4rlist.dsbl.org127.0.0.250
DSBL(ALL)ip4rlist.dsbl.org127.0.0.220
FIVETEN-MISC(DYNA)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com
127.0.0.930
FIVETEN-MISC(ALL)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com
127.0.0.910
FIVETEN-MULTI(DYNA)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com
127.0.0.530
FIVETEN-MULTI(ALL)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com
127.0.0.510
NJABL-RELAYS(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.2
30
NJABL-RELAYS(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.2
10
ORDB(DYNA)ip4rrelays.ordb.org*50
ORDB(ALL)ip4rrelays.ordb.org*20
SORBS-HTTP(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.2
40
SORBS-HTTP(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.220
SORBS-MISC(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.4
40
SORBS-MISC(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.420
SORBS-SMTP(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.5
40
SORBS-SMTP(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net
127.0.0.520
SORBS-SOCKS(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.3
40
SORBS-SOCKS(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.3
20
NJABL-PROXIES(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org
127.0.0.960
NJABL-PROXIES(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.9
20
NJABL-MULTI(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.5
30
NJABL-MULTI(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.5
10

# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)ip4rbl.spamcop.net127.0.0.2
40
SPAMCOP(ALL)ip4rbl.spamcop.net127.0.0.2
20
XBL(DYNA)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.460
XBL(ALL)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.420
It's of course ugly, but I believe it makes the most sense to do it 
this way.  I did this at the same time that I moved over to multiple 
hop testing (I test the last 4 hops since my server can handle it 
currently and that helps with forwarding).  I've only seen a few FP's 
as a result of tagged zombies sending legit E-mail, maybe a couple a 
week and always just barely failing.  Note that all of these scored 
are based on a hold weight of 10 or 13.
Matt
 

DLAnalyzer Support wrote:

Matt,
Thats actually a very good idea I am going to incorporate.  How did 
you come up with the scoring balance between first and second hop?
Darrell
Matt writes:

You need to segment your tests between Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays and 
Static Sources.  Static sources such as SBL should have no increase 
in FP's over multiple hops, however XBL, SpamCop, ORDB and others 
will.  What I do is trick Declude into splitting the test scores 
giving the last hop a higher score than a hit that sits before the 
last hop, but only for the Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays types of 
tests.  Here's an example:
# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)  ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-24 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Matt, 

For the dyna/dul tests I though the test name had to end with either DYNA or 
DUL.  I noticed you use (DYNA) - does it (declude) just look for the work 
dyna or dul to limit it to one hop? 

Darrell 

Matt writes: 

I basically came up with a rule where the (DYNA) test gets 3/4 to 2/3 of 
the points, and the (ALL) test gets 1/4 to 1/3 of the points.  To air on 
the side of caution, I would step the points up on the (DYNA) test until 
it reached 3/4 and then I would add another point to the (ALL) test, i.e. 

3 = 2 & 1
4 = 3 & 1
5 = 4 & 1
6 = 4 & 2
7 = 5 & 2
8 = 6 & 2
9 = 7 & 2
10 = 7 & 3 

Here's my current list of split tests, the hardest part is understanding 
which ones qualify, and that can take some reading: 

# Relay Lists (staggered scoring per hop)
AHBL-PROXIES(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org127.0.0.33
0
AHBL-PROXIES(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org127.0.0.310
BLITZEDALL(DYNA)ip4ropm.blitzed.org*50
BLITZEDALL(ALL)ip4ropm.blitzed.org*20
DSBL(DYNA)ip4rlist.dsbl.org127.0.0.250
DSBL(ALL)ip4rlist.dsbl.org127.0.0.220
FIVETEN-MISC(DYNA)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.93 
   0
FIVETEN-MISC(ALL)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.91  
  0
FIVETEN-MULTI(DYNA)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.5
30
FIVETEN-MULTI(ALL)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.51 
   0
NJABL-RELAYS(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.23
0
NJABL-RELAYS(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.21
0
ORDB(DYNA)ip4rrelays.ordb.org*50
ORDB(ALL)ip4rrelays.ordb.org*20
SORBS-HTTP(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.240
SORBS-HTTP(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.22   
 0
SORBS-MISC(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.440
SORBS-MISC(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.42   
 0
SORBS-SMTP(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.540
SORBS-SMTP(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.52   
 0
SORBS-SOCKS(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.34
0
SORBS-SOCKS(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.320
NJABL-PROXIES(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.96   
 0
NJABL-PROXIES(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.92
0
NJABL-MULTI(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.53
0
NJABL-MULTI(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.510 

# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)ip4rbl.spamcop.net127.0.0.240
SPAMCOP(ALL)ip4rbl.spamcop.net127.0.0.220
XBL(DYNA)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.460
XBL(ALL)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.420 

It's of course ugly, but I believe it makes the most sense to do it this 
way.  I did this at the same time that I moved over to multiple hop 
testing (I test the last 4 hops since my server can handle it currently 
and that helps with forwarding).  I've only seen a few FP's as a result of 
tagged zombies sending legit E-mail, maybe a couple a week and always just 
barely failing.  Note that all of these scored are based on a hold weight 
of 10 or 13. 

Matt 

 

DLAnalyzer Support wrote: 

Matt,
Thats actually a very good idea I am going to incorporate.  How did you 
come up with the scoring balance between first and second hop?
Darrell
Matt writes: 

You need to segment your tests between Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays and 
Static Sources.  Static sources such as SBL should have no increase in 
FP's over multiple hops, however XBL, SpamCop, ORDB and others will.  
What I do is trick Declude into splitting the test scores giving the 
last hop a higher score than a hit that sits before the last hop, but 
only for the Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays types of tests.  Here's an 
example:
# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)  ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.24
0
SPAMCOP(ALL)   ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.22
0
XBL(DYNA)  ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.46
0
XBL(ALL)   ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.42
0
The (DYNA) part of the name makes Declude only use that test on the last 
hop, while the (ALL) has no special function and it will hit on any hop 
that is scanned.  Last hop hits will score both, but prior hop hits will 
only score the (ALL) version for a lower score.  This definitely helped 
my spam capture rates, but I have caught some zombies that were sending 
legitimate E-mail, though they score very low and many of them pass.
I've suggested before that extra colum

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo, Sendmail to test antispam system

2004-02-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Provided you do not turn off the firewall once SP2 is applied. That is
correct, turn off. SP2 is purported to turn on the firewall by default.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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> Actually, Bill announced today at the RAS conference that Windows XP SP2
> should fix the virus issue.
> 
> "Beyond the Windows service release, Gates also showed off ``active
> protection technologies'' that will gird Windows computers against attacks
> by sensing changes in the network that indicate virus activity. If a
> problem
> is detected, the computer's firewall will dynamically ratchet up
> defenses."
> 
> It's all under control now :)
> 
> Darrell
> 
> 
> Matt writes:
> 
> > Web scripts come to mind as an obvious exception that probably won't be
> > covered by this.
> >
> > I'm not concerned about this though...Bill Gates said that he would
> solve
> > the spam problem by 2005...right after they figure out how to stop
> viruses
> > of course...
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> > Matt
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> >
> >
> >
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> >>> Anyone have any comments on how effective this will be (or not...)?
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[Declude.JunkMail] What's up with the logging in v1.78i3?

2004-02-24 Thread Bill Landry
I thought I would try out Declude v1.78i3 and what a drastic change there is
to the logging, at least at the "high" level.  It outputs to one long space
delimited line.  Scott, is that an intentional change?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo, Sendmail to test antispam system

2004-02-24 Thread Matt




Web scripts come to mind as an obvious exception that probably won't be
covered by this.

I'm not concerned about this though...Bill Gates said that he would
solve the spam problem by 2005...right after they figure out how to
stop viruses of course...

Matt




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What's up with the logging in v1.78i3?

2004-02-24 Thread R. Scott Perry

I thought I would try out Declude v1.78i3 and what a drastic change there is
to the logging, at least at the "high" level.  It outputs to one long space
delimited line.  Scott, is that an intentional change?
Doesn't it look better that way?  :)

Seriously, though, v1.78i4 at http://www.declude.com/interim fixes this.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo, Sendmail to test antispam system

2004-02-24 Thread Matt Robertson
>Anyone have any comments on how effective this will be (or not...)?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-24 Thread Matt
I basically came up with a rule where the (DYNA) test gets 3/4 to 2/3 of 
the points, and the (ALL) test gets 1/4 to 1/3 of the points.  To air on 
the side of caution, I would step the points up on the (DYNA) test until 
it reached 3/4 and then I would add another point to the (ALL) test, i.e.

3 = 2 & 1
4 = 3 & 1
5 = 4 & 1
6 = 4 & 2
7 = 5 & 2
8 = 6 & 2
9 = 7 & 2
10 = 7 & 3
Here's my current list of split tests, the hardest part is understanding 
which ones qualify, and that can take some reading:

# Relay Lists (staggered scoring per hop)
AHBL-PROXIES(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org127.0.0.330
AHBL-PROXIES(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org127.0.0.310
BLITZEDALL(DYNA)ip4ropm.blitzed.org*50
BLITZEDALL(ALL)ip4ropm.blitzed.org*20
DSBL(DYNA)ip4rlist.dsbl.org127.0.0.250
DSBL(ALL)ip4rlist.dsbl.org127.0.0.220
FIVETEN-MISC(DYNA)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.9
30
FIVETEN-MISC(ALL)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.9
10
FIVETEN-MULTI(DYNA)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com
127.0.0.530
FIVETEN-MULTI(ALL)ip4rblackholes.five-ten-sg.com127.0.0.5
10
NJABL-RELAYS(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.230
NJABL-RELAYS(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.210
ORDB(DYNA)ip4rrelays.ordb.org*50
ORDB(ALL)ip4rrelays.ordb.org*20
SORBS-HTTP(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.240
SORBS-HTTP(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.2
20
SORBS-MISC(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.440
SORBS-MISC(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.4
20
SORBS-SMTP(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.540
SORBS-SMTP(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.5
20
SORBS-SOCKS(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.340
SORBS-SOCKS(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.320
NJABL-PROXIES(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.9
60
NJABL-PROXIES(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.920
NJABL-MULTI(DYNA)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.530
NJABL-MULTI(ALL)ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.510

# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)ip4rbl.spamcop.net127.0.0.240
SPAMCOP(ALL)ip4rbl.spamcop.net127.0.0.220
XBL(DYNA)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.460
XBL(ALL)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.420
It's of course ugly, but I believe it makes the most sense to do it this 
way.  I did this at the same time that I moved over to multiple hop 
testing (I test the last 4 hops since my server can handle it currently 
and that helps with forwarding).  I've only seen a few FP's as a result 
of tagged zombies sending legit E-mail, maybe a couple a week and always 
just barely failing.  Note that all of these scored are based on a hold 
weight of 10 or 13.

Matt



DLAnalyzer Support wrote:

Matt,
Thats actually a very good idea I am going to incorporate.  How did 
you come up with the scoring balance between first and second hop?
Darrell
Matt writes:

You need to segment your tests between Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays and 
Static Sources.  Static sources such as SBL should have no increase 
in FP's over multiple hops, however XBL, SpamCop, ORDB and others 
will.  What I do is trick Declude into splitting the test scores 
giving the last hop a higher score than a hit that sits before the 
last hop, but only for the Spamtraps/Zombies/Relays types of tests.  
Here's an example:
# Spam Traps (staggered scoring per hop)
SPAMCOP(DYNA)  ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.2
40
SPAMCOP(ALL)   ip4rbl.spamcop.net  127.0.0.2
20
XBL(DYNA)  ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.4
60
XBL(ALL)   ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.4
20
The (DYNA) part of the name makes Declude only use that test on the 
last hop, while the (ALL) has no special function and it will hit on 
any hop that is scanned.  Last hop hits will score both, but prior 
hop hits will only score the (ALL) version for a lower score.  This 
definitely helped my spam capture rates, but I have caught some 
zombies that were sending legitimate E-mail, though they score very 
low and many of them pass.
I've suggested before that extra columns be added to Declude for such 
tests so that we can control the score they give according to the hop 
that they hit on.  The full description of this suggestion is in the 
recent archives.
Note that negative weight tests need to be kept ex

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo, Sendmail to test antispam system

2004-02-24 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Actually, Bill announced today at the RAS conference that Windows XP SP2 
should fix the virus issue. 

"Beyond the Windows service release, Gates also showed off ``active 
protection technologies'' that will gird Windows computers against attacks 
by sensing changes in the network that indicate virus activity. If a problem 
is detected, the computer's firewall will dynamically ratchet up defenses." 

It's all under control now :) 

Darrell 

Matt writes: 

Web scripts come to mind as an obvious exception that probably won't be 
covered by this. 

I'm not concerned about this though...Bill Gates said that he would solve 
the spam problem by 2005...right after they figure out how to stop viruses 
of course... 

Matt 

 

Matt Robertson wrote: 

Anyone have any comments on how effective this will be (or not...)?


What good is this if *everyone* doesn't use it? 


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http://mysecretbase.com
 

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[Declude.JunkMail] Fw: [Full-Disclosure] Scans for IPSwitch IMail LDAP vuilnerability

2004-02-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky

Please everyone be sure to patch your IMail 8 installations with the hotfix
for the LDAP vulnerability.


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Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Scans for IPSwitch IMail LDAP vuilnerability

> Information  was  received  from  Kaspersky  Labs,  there  is  increased
> activity   on   TCP/389   (LDAP)   port.  Analysis  of  captured  packet
> demonstrates  attempt  to  exploit  IPSwitch  IMail  LDAP vulnerability.
> Packet  contains  universal reverse shell shellcode. Trojan is installed
> on owned host (listens on TCP/21 and pretends to be wu-ftpd).

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