RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Updater via AT Scheduler Problem

2002-12-19 Thread Tony Gray - Network Administrator
Sorry, I didn't see nt or 2k specified in the post.  :-)  I can 'testify'
that 2k works while logged off, I am 99.9% sure NT does too.  NT help file
should answer that question for you.

- Tony

 1) On win2k Server, scheduled tasks DO run even if logged out.

Sure - but the original question was for WinNT

 Since there's a GUI on the windows version will this run while the
 console is logged off?

It's working for me - the updater is run every three hours.

/Rasmus



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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Updater via AT Scheduler Problem

2002-12-19 Thread Mark Smith
What's NT 4.0? :)


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 Sorry, I didn't see nt or 2k specified in the post.  :-)  I 
 can 'testify' that 2k works while logged off, I am 99.9% sure 
 NT does too.  NT help file should answer that question for you.
 
 - Tony
 
  1) On win2k Server, scheduled tasks DO run even if logged out.
 
 Sure - but the original question was for WinNT
 
  Since there's a GUI on the windows version will this run 
 while the 
  console is logged off?
 
 It's working for me - the updater is run every three hours.
 
 /Rasmus

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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Updater via AT Scheduler Problem

2002-12-19 Thread Hostmaster
We have NT IIS servers running (with Progress Webspeed as well), and they
start up automatically without anyone logged in.. So I assume it's true for
NT4 as well..

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Sorry, I didn't see nt or 2k specified in the post.  :-)  I can 'testify'
that 2k works while logged off, I am 99.9% sure NT does too.  NT help file
should answer that question for you.

- Tony

 1) On win2k Server, scheduled tasks DO run even if logged out.

Sure - but the original question was for WinNT

 Since there's a GUI on the windows version will this run while the 
 console is logged off?

It's working for me - the updater is run every three hours.

/Rasmus



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[Declude.Virus] bogus files.....

2002-12-19 Thread paul
Hey guys,
While going through my logs, I noticed a lot of lines like this:

12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file
12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file
12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file
12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file
12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file
12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file

I see it's pointing to the same message, but was just curious to know
how common this is? Is this the .jpg.exe setup it's finding?

What got me on this was yesterday my NAV snagged a magistr virus that
came through that Declude missed. I've also seen alot of these:

12/19/2002 09:48:25 Qdc38012d013e4431 Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME
Preamble' vulnerability in line 17 layer 1 [Content-Type: multipart/altern]
12/19/2002 09:48:25 Qdc38012d013e4431 File(s) are INFECTED [0]

So far all of these seem to be spam, but it's amazing the amount of these in
there

Paul


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Re: [Declude.Virus] bogus files.....

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


While going through my logs, I noticed a lot of lines like this:

12/19/2002 09:14:11 Qd43109d000d4e8d9 Found a bogus .jpg file

I see it's pointing to the same message, but was just curious to know
how common this is?


What version of Declude Virus are you running?

That log file entry is part of an experimental system in Declude Virus 
designed to find files that aren't what they claim to be (for example, if 
someone renamed an .exe file to a .jpg extension).  However, I believe 
there was a recent beta that would falsely detect these bogus files.  In 
any case, the only damage is the extra log file entries.

What got me on this was yesterday my NAV snagged a magistr virus that
came through that Declude missed.


Have you checked the Declude Virus log file to see what it says about that 
E-mail?

 I've also seen alot of these:

12/19/2002 09:48:25 Qdc38012d013e4431 Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME
Preamble' vulnerability in line 17 layer 1 [Content-Type: multipart/altern]
12/19/2002 09:48:25 Qdc38012d013e4431 File(s) are INFECTED [0]

So far all of these seem to be spam, but it's amazing the amount of these in
there


Yes, there are a lot of spammers who apparently write their own spamware, 
and send out incorrectly formatted E-mails that contain some of the 
recently discovered vulnerabilities.
   -Scott

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[Declude.Virus] Treatment of double layered extension files

2002-12-19 Thread Keith Johnson
Title: Treatment of double layered extension files






Scott,

 I saw a few weeks ago about a thread discussion that talked about the 'catching' of double layered extension files (i.e. file.shs.txt), however I couldn't find it in the archive. I wanted to see if these indeed get caught as banext (i.e. shs) , as I think this maybe a dull point if they contain a virus as the scanner should catch it and thus tip Declude to quarantine it, however my thoughts were if it was not a virus file. Thanks for the info.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Treatment of double layered extension files

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


I saw a few weeks ago about a thread discussion that talked about 
the 'catching' of double layered extension files (i.e. file.shs.txt), 
however I couldn't find it in the archive.  I wanted to see if these 
indeed get caught as banext (i.e. shs) , as I think this maybe a dull 
point if they contain a virus as the scanner should catch it and thus tip 
Declude to quarantine it, however my thoughts were if it was not a virus 
file.  Thanks for the info.

If there is a virus, the E-mail will get caught.

If there is no virus, but the extension is banned (for example, a file 
named file.txt.shs will get banned if you use BANEXT SHS).

If you do not ban the file extension, and no virus is detected, the E-mail 
will be allowed through.  This is the part where some people have requested 
a change, so that you would be able to ban any file with double 
extensions.  However, this gets tricky to implement with such filenames as 
yahoo.com.url and ones with 4-character extensions (file.jpeg.exe 
versus my.program.exe).
-Scott

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[Declude.Virus] Customized Footer for domain

2002-12-19 Thread Keith Johnson
Title: Customized Footer for domain






Scott,

 Thanks for the aid on other question. We currently have the virus footer disabled, but I have one client who would like a footer added to his email that it was scanned for viruses. Is there a way to do this except globally in the virus.cfg file? Again, thank you.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] bogus files.....

2002-12-19 Thread paul
 What version of Declude Virus are you running?

1.65.

 That log file entry is part of an experimental system in Declude Virus
 designed to find files that aren't what they claim to be (for example, if
 someone renamed an .exe file to a .jpg extension).  However, I believe
 there was a recent beta that would falsely detect these bogus files.  In
 any case, the only damage is the extra log file entries.


Ok, that's what I figured it had to be, as it appeared no actions are taken.
Is that planned for a later release? If the attachment is bogus to
hold/warn/delete?

 Have you checked the Declude Virus log file to see what it says about that
 E-mail?

No, I missed it when it came in and NAV canned it before I could see it. So
I don't know the exact time. I would've looked it up tho.

 Yes, there are a lot of spammers who apparently write their own spamware,
 and send out incorrectly formatted E-mails that contain some of the
 recently discovered vulnerabilities.

I guess this makes good use of holds for vulnerabilities.

Paul


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Customized Footer for domain

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


Thanks for the aid on other question.  We currently have the 
virus footer disabled, but I have one client who would like a footer 
added to his email that it was scanned for viruses.  Is there a way to do 
this except globally in the virus.cfg file?  Again, thank you.

Unfortunately, there isn't any way to do it except globally.  However, 
having footers configurable per domain is already in the suggestion database.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] bogus files.....

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


 That log file entry is part of an experimental system in Declude Virus
 designed to find files that aren't what they claim to be (for example, if
 someone renamed an .exe file to a .jpg extension).  However, I believe
 there was a recent beta that would falsely detect these bogus files.  In
 any case, the only damage is the extra log file entries.

Ok, that's what I figured it had to be, as it appeared no actions are taken.
Is that planned for a later release? If the attachment is bogus to
hold/warn/delete?


That's planned for a future release.  We haven't decided yet how the 
E-mails would be handled (HOLD/WARN/DELETE sound like they would be good 
options).
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] bogus files.....

2002-12-19 Thread John Tolmachoff
   That log file entry is part of an experimental system in Declude Virus
   designed to find files that aren't what they claim to be (for example,
if
   someone renamed an .exe file to a .jpg extension).  However, I believe
   there was a recent beta that would falsely detect these bogus files.
In
   any case, the only damage is the extra log file entries.
 
 Ok, that's what I figured it had to be, as it appeared no actions are
taken.
 Is that planned for a later release? If the attachment is bogus to
 hold/warn/delete?
 
 That's planned for a future release.  We haven't decided yet how the
 E-mails would be handled (HOLD/WARN/DELETE sound like they would be good
 options).

Hold with postmaster and possible recipient notification sounds good.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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[Declude.Virus] Problem in Config

2002-12-19 Thread Chris Andrews
I have turned BANCRVIRUSES  OFF but it is still catching the Mime header
vulnerability. I know I should not turn it off but until the developer fixes
the code I have got to let this stuff get through. Any ideas why it wouldn't
be working? I know it is reading the current config because the change to my
footer is in place.
CA

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Problem in Config

2002-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry


I have turned BANCRVIRUSES  OFF but it is still catching the Mime header
vulnerability. I know I should not turn it off but until the developer fixes
the code I have got to let this stuff get through. Any ideas why it wouldn't
be working? I know it is reading the current config because the change to my
footer is in place.


Could that be the MIME segment in MIME preamble vulnerability (which it 
turns out would get caught even with the BANCRVIRUSES OFF setting)?  We 
have an interim release at http://www.declude.com/release/165i/declude.exe 
that will take care of that.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] bogus files.....

2002-12-19 Thread Keith Johnson
I got this same bogus file showing up in the log (MID) when I sent the eicar virus 
(zipped format) off the eicar.com website to our server.  
 
Keith

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   That log file entry is part of an experimental system in Declude Virus
   designed to find files that aren't what they claim to be (for example,
if
   someone renamed an .exe file to a .jpg extension).  However, I believe
   there was a recent beta that would falsely detect these bogus files.
In
   any case, the only damage is the extra log file entries.
 
 Ok, that's what I figured it had to be, as it appeared no actions are
taken.
 Is that planned for a later release? If the attachment is bogus to
 hold/warn/delete?

 That's planned for a future release.  We haven't decided yet how the
 E-mails would be handled (HOLD/WARN/DELETE sound like they would be good
 options).

Hold with postmaster and possible recipient notification sounds good.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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