[Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi all,

Today I can see a large number of non delivery reports comming back to our
server containing the original virus warning (recip.eml) 

This is the begin of our recip.eml file:
===
SKIPIFSENDER [Forged]
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS MyDoom
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Netsky
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Bagle
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Unknown Virus
ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
To: %ALLRECIPS%
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...

===


All returning NDR's are warnings about a Unknown Virus so I can't
understand why they are send out because the according SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS
line is there as we haven't changed any content of this file in the last 3
weeks.

NDR'S are comming back from all around the world.

Any ideas?

Markus



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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Franco Celli
Hi Markus,
I have no idea, but our server is registering a peak of incoming messages,
with above-normal banned cpl extension attachments in virus folder.

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From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings


 Hi all,

 Today I can see a large number of non delivery reports comming back to our
 server containing the original virus warning (recip.eml)

 This is the begin of our recip.eml file:
 ===
 SKIPIFSENDER [Forged]
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS MyDoom
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Netsky
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Bagle
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Unknown Virus
 ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
 To: %ALLRECIPS%
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ...

 ===


 All returning NDR's are warnings about a Unknown Virus so I can't
 understand why they are send out because the according SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS
 line is there as we haven't changed any content of this file in the last 3
 weeks.

 NDR'S are comming back from all around the world.

 Any ideas?

 Markus



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Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain

2004-10-29 Thread Declude
Hi John,
this is the actual forwarding
of one eMail of my customer.
I guess I have to make a reverse DNS entry, don't you think ?

Uwe

Received: from lasthope [217.235.73.14] by irgendwas.de with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id AF231070262; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:35 +0200
From: info_irgendwas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WG: Spezialanfrage
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:33 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0001_01C4BDAB.8FEFC810
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-RBL-Warning: MAILFROM: Domain irgendwas.de has no MX or A records [0001].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.235.73.14]
X-Note: Scanned by Declude JunkMail http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: CMDSPACE, MAILFROM, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20 [20]
X-Note: Scanned by Declude JunkMail http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from pD9EB490E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.73.14]).
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-UIDL: 373489920
Status: U

JTL 1. Is the sender authenticating during the SMTP send to the server?
JTL 2. Log lines for the messages sent please.
JTL 3. Is the sender using Outlook 2003?
JTL 4. Headers of the message that came through after changing from DELETE at 20
JTL to WARN.

JTL John Tolmachoff
JTL Engineer/Consultant/Owner
JTL eServices For You

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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain
 
 Hi list,
 a customer of us complained
 today that he could't send any
 eMail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 But he receives eMails to both of the above
 postboxes from externally.
 Today I bypassed Declude. (I deleted eMails
 over weight 20 I guess, now I only do a WARN)
 Since then it is working fine for him
 again.
 I tested his domain remotely with no problems.
 Although he takes Outlook. It seems as if
 Outlook as a Mailer-SW is causing problems
 here.
 Any ideas ?
 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread E. Ballerini
Franco Celli wrote:
Hi Markus,
I have no idea, but our server is registering a peak of incoming messages,
with above-normal banned cpl extension attachments in virus folder.
 

According to F-secure it's the new Bagle virus:
New Bagle variant, Bagle.AT, has been spotted in several locations. It 
sends emails with a smiley :) as the message body. Attachment filename 
starts with Price or Joke and extension is COM, EXE, SCR or CPL.

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[Declude.Virus] HEADS UP there is something strange out

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler
My F-prot/Mcafee scanners are detecting a hug enumbers of Unknown Viruses
this morning.

Looking at the original message headers there are always HELO strings like

Beatrix.net
Arianna.net
Margareth1.org
Margareth1.com


This moment I've received a warning from my own server that I has send a
virus to another local recipient. Looking to thy smtp-logfile the sending IP
was not mine.

Even if all eml-file (recip, sender_local, sender_remote) contains a line

SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Unknown Virus

This warnings are still send out

I've tried also to add 

FORGINGVIRUS Unknown Virus

But the warnings are still send out.
Thes same thing is happening also on another Imail/declude server.

What the hell is going on here?

Markus


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler
Here is one of the messages causing such Unknown virus warnings

==

Received: from CAD22.com [217.199.28.13] by mail.zcom.it
  (SMTPD32-8.13) id A261113D008C; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:50:25 +0200
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:53:40 +0100
To: Watschinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: R.p.rustikal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary=gstnxjmuytvkywgecqkl
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.199.28.13]
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [0]
X-Country-Chain: 
X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -  ([217.199.28.13]) incoming.
X-Note: Sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Declude-Virus: Detected .

--gstnxjmuytvkywgecqkl
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

htmlbody
:))

br
/body/html

--gstnxjmuytvkywgecqkl
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Price.exe
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Price.exe

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Seems to be a new Bagle variant but this is all very strange.

Markus





 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Franco Celli
 Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings
 
 Hi Markus,
 I have no idea, but our server is registering a peak of 
 incoming messages, with above-normal banned cpl extension 
 attachments in virus folder.
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:32 AM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  Today I can see a large number of non delivery reports 
 comming back to our
  server containing the original virus warning (recip.eml)
 
  This is the begin of our recip.eml file:
  ===
  SKIPIFSENDER [Forged]
  SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability
  SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS MyDoom
  SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Netsky
  SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Bagle
  SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Unknown Virus
  ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
  To: %ALLRECIPS%
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  ...
 
  ===
 
 
  All returning NDR's are warnings about a Unknown Virus so I can't
  understand why they are send out because the according 
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS
  line is there as we haven't changed any content of this 
 file in the last 3
  weeks.
 
  NDR'S are comming back from all around the world.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Markus
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler
It seems that Declude is handling this Unknown Virus not with this string
even if showed in the %VIRUSNAME% variable.

In the Mailheader for other known viruses I can see

X-Declude-Virus: Detected W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

For this new virus comming in with price/joke.com/exe/cpl/scr attachments
the same line is showed up as

X-Declude-Virus: Detected .

In the message header.

So should we use 

SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS 

And

FORGINGVIRUS 

?

In the meantime I've renamed recip , sender_local and sender_remot.eml to
.offline extensions to prevent wrong warnings.
I've also added 

BANNAME price.com
BANNAME price.scr
BANNAME price.cpl
BANNAME price.exe
BANNAME joke.com
BANNAME joke.scr
BANNAME joke.cpl
BANNAME joke.exe

To the virus.cfg file but I'm not sure if this will prevent scanning and
warnings of all this messages.

Markus



 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E. Ballerini
 Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings
 
 Franco Celli wrote:
 
 Hi Markus,
 I have no idea, but our server is registering a peak of incoming 
 messages, with above-normal banned cpl extension attachments 
 in virus folder.
   
 
 According to F-secure it's the new Bagle virus:
 
 New Bagle variant, Bagle.AT, has been spotted in several 
 locations. It sends emails with a smiley :) as the message 
 body. Attachment filename starts with Price or Joke and 
 extension is COM, EXE, SCR or CPL.
 
 Erminio
 
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 P.O. Box 16164  2500 BD Den Haag
 Parnassusplein 5Den Haag 
 
 
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Franco Celli
F-PROT updated (29/10) definitions detects them as Bagle.AP.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Franco Celli
A new update (the second as 29/10) is available for F-PROT.
With the first one, some samples remain undetected blocked only by BANEXT.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler
Now the F-prot update is arrived also here. Catching it as Bagle.AP from
12:30 GMT+1 on.
Mcafee is catching it as Bagle.bb from 13:05 GMT+1 on.

But I still can't understand what's happened with the Unknown virus
string...?

Markus


 

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 F-PROT updated (29/10) definitions detects them as Bagle.AP.
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Now the F-prot update is arrived also here. Catching it as Bagle.AP from
12:30 GMT+1 on.
Mcafee is catching it as Bagle.bb from 13:05 GMT+1 on.
But I still can't understand what's happened with the Unknown virus
string...?
The problem is that F-Prot was detecting it as a suspicious file 
(VIRUSCODE 8), but not reporting the virus name in the report.txt file 
(since it did not detect a virus, it can't know the name of it).  As a 
result, the name of the virus was left blank, but Declude Virus would show 
Unknown Virus where ever you wanted to display the virus name (such as in 
virus notifications).  But for the SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS option, it was just 
seeing a blank string, so it was not seeing Unknown Virus.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] HEADS UP there is something strange out

2004-10-29 Thread Don Hickey
Symantec has 3 new Bagle variants listed at www.sarc.com this morning...

Thanks for the Heads Up 


Don
- Original Message - 
From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:30 AM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] HEADS UP there is something strange out


 My F-prot/Mcafee scanners are detecting a hug enumbers of Unknown
Viruses
 this morning.

 Looking at the original message headers there are always HELO strings like

 Beatrix.net
 Arianna.net
 Margareth1.org
 Margareth1.com


 This moment I've received a warning from my own server that I has send a
 virus to another local recipient. Looking to thy smtp-logfile the sending
IP
 was not mine.

 Even if all eml-file (recip, sender_local, sender_remote) contains a line

 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Unknown Virus

 This warnings are still send out

 I've tried also to add

 FORGINGVIRUS Unknown Virus

 But the warnings are still send out.
 Thes same thing is happening also on another Imail/declude server.

 What the hell is going on here?

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Matt




Just a couple of thoughts...Maybe there is a limitation with strings
that involve a space? Alternatively, maybe there was no name reported
by the scanner, and this was just simply the value that Declude logged.

Matt



Markus Gufler wrote:

  Now the F-prot update is arrived also here. Catching it as Bagle.AP from
12:30 GMT+1 on.
Mcafee is catching it as Bagle.bb from 13:05 GMT+1 on.

But I still can't understand what's happened with the "Unknown virus"
string...?

Markus


 

  
  
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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

F-PROT updated (29/10) definitions detects them as Bagle.AP.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Franco Celli
Just a note, the second update of F-PROT still does not detect all joke.*
and price.*
sign.def and sign2.def both with 10/29/2004 9.59 timestamp

waiting for another update next few hours!?

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Re: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain

2004-10-29 Thread Matt




I took note that you are using IMail 6.06. Unless you can whitelist
your users by way of their IP addresses you should disable the CMDSPACE
test, or at least reduce it's weight. I see this one came from
T-Online and probably can't be whitelisted. Microsoft Outlook clients
will fail CMDSPACE unless they are whitelisted. With IMail 8.x, you
can configure Declude for WHITELIST AUTH which will automatically
whitelist clients that authenticate. There are no such options in
IMail 6.x.

The MAILFROM test suggests, and my own DNS query confirms, that your
sender's domain neither has an MX or an A record. Adding one of these
will keep that test from failing.

Matt



Declude wrote:

  Hi John,
this is the actual forwarding
of one eMail of my customer.
I guess I have to make a reverse DNS entry, don't you think ?

Uwe

Received: from lasthope [217.235.73.14] by irgendwas.de with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id AF231070262; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:35 +0200
From: "info_irgendwas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WG: Spezialanfrage
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:33 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="=_NextPart_000_0001_01C4BDAB.8FEFC810"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-RBL-Warning: MAILFROM: Domain irgendwas.de has no MX or A records [0001].
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.235.73.14]
X-Note: Scanned by Declude JunkMail http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: CMDSPACE, MAILFROM, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT20 [20]
X-Note: Scanned by Declude JunkMail http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from pD9EB490E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.73.14]).
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-UIDL: 373489920
Status: U

JTL 1. Is the sender authenticating during the SMTP send to the server?
JTL 2. Log lines for the messages sent please.
JTL 3. Is the sender using Outlook 2003?
JTL 4. Headers of the message that came through after changing from DELETE at 20
JTL to WARN.

JTL John Tolmachoff
JTL Engineer/Consultant/Owner
JTL eServices For You

  
  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

  
  JTL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  

  On Behalf Of Declude
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain

Hi list,
a customer of us complained
today that he could't send any
eMail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But he receives eMails to both of the above
postboxes from externally.
Today I bypassed Declude. (I deleted eMails
over weight 20 I guess, now I only do a WARN)
Since then it is working fine for him
again.
I tested his domain remotely with no problems.
Although he takes Outlook. It seems as if
Outlook as a Mailer-SW is causing problems
here.
Any ideas ?

Uwe


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Thanks for the clarrification. Is there anything we can do against this or
would it be possible to have some fix for future releases?
Something like SKIPIF... ISBLANK
I expect that we will change the code to treat these as forging, so 
SKIPIFFORGING would catch 'em.  We could also add a separate SKIPIF... 
option just to detect these, just to be safe.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler

 I expect that we will change the code to treat these as 
 forging, so SKIPIFFORGING would catch 'em.  We could also add 
 a separate SKIPIF... 
 option just to detect these, just to be safe.

I believe it would be usefull for all users of F-Prot with returncode 8
enabled to avoid future uneccessary warnings send out if f-prot is fast
catching but not exact naming new virus variants.

Now after renaming all .offline files back to .eml there are again some
NDR's. As Franco allready reported it seems that F-Prot up to now is not
catching 100% of Bagle.AP. So I've not removed the BANNAME's from my config
file and keept .offline the bannotify.eml file.

Comparing scan results in the vir logfile I can see that F-Prot up to now is
catching only around 50% of what is catching Mcafee regarding Bagle.AP (or
in Mcafee terms Bagle.bb) I'm not sure if Mcafee is catching  all Bagle.bb's

Markus



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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Franco Celli
Markus,
a third update now seems to detect ALL bagle variants.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings



 Now after renaming all .offline files back to .eml there are again some
 NDR's. As Franco allready reported it seems that F-Prot up to now is not
 catching 100% of Bagle.AP. So I've not removed the BANNAME's from my
config
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

  I expect that we will change the code to treat these as
  forging, so SKIPIFFORGING would catch 'em.  We could also add
  a separate SKIPIF...
  option just to detect these, just to be safe.

 I believe it would be usefull for all users of F-Prot with returncode 8
 enabled to avoid future uneccessary warnings send out if f-prot is fast
 catching but not exact naming new virus variants.

I have not activated returncode 8 for F-prot in Declude yet because I
wasn't sure if we would get to many false positives. Has anyone, or maybe
f-prot themselves, any info on that? Does returncode 8 generate false
positives and if so, how many?

Groetjes,

Bonno Bloksma
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[Declude.Virus] Feature request

2004-10-29 Thread Cris Porter
Different actions for different attached file extensions

So I can delete PIF, SCR, CPL without review.
(I have to review EXEs)

Or is this possible now ?

Cris

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Feature request

2004-10-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

Different actions for different attached file extensions
So I can delete PIF, SCR, CPL without review.
(I have to review EXEs)
Or is this possible now ?
There isn't any way to do that now, but that is something that we will look 
into.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Markus Gufler

 I have not activated returncode 8 for F-prot in Declude yet 
 because I wasn't sure if we would get to many false 
 positives. Has anyone, or maybe f-prot themselves, any info 
 on that? Does returncode 8 generate false positives and if 
 so, how many?

Bonno,

I don't know how much false positives it would produce but I haven't never
heard some customer complaining about it. Until this morning there was not
more then 2 or 3 Unknown Virus warnings per day with 13000 processed
messages/day.

But in this case - if I have understand it right - it was very usefull to
have viruscode 8 enabled.
I've seen the first Unknown virus message this morning at 09:30 AM. F-prot
has had updates ready 3 hours later. In the meantime there was an average of
10 Bagle.AP infected messages per minute - catched only with viruscode 8.

Until I've discovered what's going on here (the unknown virus story) and
adapted the virus.cfg file with appropriate BANNAME's there was a large
number of messages that would be delivered without this setting.

Imagine that the breakout happened at 09:30 GMT+1
So I was already at work. People in american timezones was at work when
AV-companies has had updates but Mailservers are delivering messages also
overnight...

Markus



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Douglas Cohn
I have been using Viruscode 8 for more than 6 months and have not received
even 1 false positive,

But my users are not a very large group and they most likely do not send a
lot of attachments via email.  I have taught them how to transfer files
actually via ftp.

DC 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings


 I have not activated returncode 8 for F-prot in Declude yet because 
 I wasn't sure if we would get to many false positives. Has anyone, or 
 maybe f-prot themselves, any info on that? Does returncode 8 generate 
 false positives and if so, how many?

Bonno,

I don't know how much false positives it would produce but I haven't never
heard some customer complaining about it. Until this morning there was not
more then 2 or 3 Unknown Virus warnings per day with 13000 processed
messages/day.

But in this case - if I have understand it right - it was very usefull to
have viruscode 8 enabled.
I've seen the first Unknown virus message this morning at 09:30 AM. F-prot
has had updates ready 3 hours later. In the meantime there was an average of
10 Bagle.AP infected messages per minute - catched only with viruscode 8.

Until I've discovered what's going on here (the unknown virus story) and
adapted the virus.cfg file with appropriate BANNAME's there was a large
number of messages that would be delivered without this setting.

Imagine that the breakout happened at 09:30 GMT+1 So I was already at work.
People in american timezones was at work when AV-companies has had updates
but Mailservers are delivering messages also overnight...

Markus



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[Declude.Virus] Possibly a new variant of JS/ virus in [HTML segment]

2004-10-29 Thread Bill Landry
In addition to what others have been reporting here, I am also seeing F-Prot
reporting these today:

Declude Antivirus v1.81 caught the  Possibly a new variant of JS/ virus in
[HTML segment]

They are coming in with subjects like:

Subject:DM Direct Newsletter: October 29, 2004
Subject:Weekly Challenge: Comp Time
Subject:Amazing deals on Jewelry, Diamonds and more - Bid Now

However, ClamAV, McAfee, and TrendMicro are not tagging any of these
messages.  Anyone else seeing any of these today?

Bill

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Possibly a new variant of JS/ virus in [HTML segment]

2004-10-29 Thread Darin Cox
Yep...we started seeing these this morning.

Darin.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:04 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Possibly a new variant of JS/ virus in [HTML
segment]


In addition to what others have been reporting here, I am also seeing F-Prot
reporting these today:

Declude Antivirus v1.81 caught the  Possibly a new variant of JS/ virus in
[HTML segment]

They are coming in with subjects like:

Subject:DM Direct Newsletter: October 29, 2004
Subject:Weekly Challenge: Comp Time
Subject:Amazing deals on Jewelry, Diamonds and more - Bid Now

However, ClamAV, McAfee, and TrendMicro are not tagging any of these
messages.  Anyone else seeing any of these today?

Bill

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[Declude.Virus] MAILBOX spam

2004-10-29 Thread Sheldon Koehler
When using the MAILBOX action for test failures, we have noticed that 
forward or alias addresses do not get sent to the spam folder but actually 
get delevered to the main inbox. Do we have something configured wrong or is 
there way to fix this or are we stuck with it?

Sheldon

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Unknown virus warnings

2004-10-29 Thread Rick Davidson
I have not activated returncode 8 for F-prot in Declude yet
because I wasn't sure if we would get to many false
positives. Has anyone, or maybe f-prot themselves, any info
on that? Does returncode 8 generate false positives and if
so, how many?
I have had virus code 8 enabled for quite a while, I dont recall any false 
positives and I didnt have a problem with the latest bagle garbage. Better 
safe than sorry if you ask me.

Rick Davidson
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North American Title Group
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Re: [Declude.Virus] MAILBOX spam

2004-10-29 Thread R. Scott Perry

When using the MAILBOX action for test failures, we have noticed that 
forward or alias addresses do not get sent to the spam folder but actually 
get delevered to the main inbox. Do we have something configured wrong or 
is there way to fix this or are we stuck with it?
That's just how IMail works.
If an E-mail is sent to a user account, the action is taken for that user 
account.  If the E-mail is received by the account (meaning that the HOLD, 
DELETE, ROUTETO, etc. actions aren't used), then the E-mail will be 
forwarded as-is.  IMail will not re-scan the E-mail if the forwarded 
account is on the IMail server.

For an alias, though, the E-mail address that it points to will use the 
MAILBOX action (unless the E-mail address isn't on the IMail server, since 
the MAILBOX action is IMail-specific).

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[Declude.Virus] Declude for Exchange?

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Matuska



I seem to recall someone on this list mentioning 
something about a upcoming declude version for Exchange? Any truth to this 
rumor? 

Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech IICCNANez 
Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude for Exchange?

2004-10-29 Thread Scott Fisher



It's Friday afternoon and I've cleared out my 1000 
messages from the Imail Forum, so I can't resist...

Isn't Declude for Exchange part of the 
soon-to-be-announced Declude Collaboration Suite (DCS)? ;) or is it :( 
?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim Matuska 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:30 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude for 
  Exchange? 
  
  I seem to recall someone on this list mentioning 
  something about a upcoming declude version for Exchange? Any truth to 
  this rumor? 
  
  Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech 
  IICCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude for Exchange?

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Matuska



I like the ring of Declude Collaboration 
Suite. Sounds like a winner to me.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott 
  Fisher 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude for 
  Exchange? 
  
  It's Friday afternoon and I've cleared out my 
  1000 messages from the Imail Forum, so I can't resist...
  
  Isn't Declude for Exchange part of the 
  soon-to-be-announced Declude Collaboration Suite (DCS)? ;) or is it :( 
  ?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jim Matuska 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:30 
PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude for 
Exchange? 

I seem to recall someone on this list 
mentioning something about a upcoming declude version for Exchange? 
Any truth to this rumor? 

Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech 
IICCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude for Exchange?

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Horne



Yeah, yeah. Bundle it with Sniffer and quintuple the 
cost.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim 
  MatuskaSent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:06 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude for 
  Exchange? 
  
  I like the ring of Declude Collaboration 
  Suite. Sounds like a winner to me.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Scott Fisher 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:57 
PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude 
for Exchange? 

It's Friday afternoon and I've cleared out my 
1000 messages from the Imail Forum, so I can't resist...

Isn't Declude for Exchange part of the 
soon-to-be-announced Declude Collaboration Suite (DCS)? ;) or is it :( 
?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim Matuska 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:30 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude for 
  Exchange? 
  
  I seem to recall someone on this list 
  mentioning something about a upcoming declude version for Exchange? 
  Any truth to this rumor? 
  
  Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech 
  IICCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]