RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment

2007-04-26 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Gary, you beat them by a day with your own assessment, but Symantec
blogged about this virus twice today:

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2007/04/spam
_attack_rared_trojan.html

An interesting point is that they have blocked 1.2 million messages by
tackling the text of the message as spam.

Andrew.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Steiner
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:31 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment
 
 I started getting some messages today that were picked up as 
 spam, but were not being identified as viruses.  They looked 
 suspicious, having subject lines of
 
 Virus Activity Detected!
 Spyware Alert!
 
 It containes a .gif message that tells the user to open the 
 .rar file and run the patch there to protect them from the 
 virus/spyware.
 
 I ran it on www.virustotal.com, and the only scanner that 
 picked it up was McAfee, and it identified it as W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_142094.htm
 
 Since this a password protected .rar file, should we now be 
 blocking these?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment

2007-04-26 Thread Gary Steiner
Basically that is what ClamAV is doing.  It detects it as a phishing spam.


 Original Message 
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:11 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment
 
 Gary, you beat them by a day with your own assessment, but Symantec
 blogged about this virus twice today:
 
 http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2007/04/spam
 _attack_rared_trojan.html
 
 An interesting point is that they have blocked 1.2 million messages by
 tackling the text of the message as spam.
 
 Andrew.
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Gary Steiner
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:31 AM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment
  
  I started getting some messages today that were picked up as 
  spam, but were not being identified as viruses.  They looked 
  suspicious, having subject lines of
  
  Virus Activity Detected!
  Spyware Alert!
  
  It containes a .gif message that tells the user to open the 
  .rar file and run the patch there to protect them from the 
  virus/spyware.
  
  I ran it on www.virustotal.com, and the only scanner that 
  picked it up was McAfee, and it identified it as W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED].
  
  http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_142094.htm
  
  Since this a password protected .rar file, should we now be 
  blocking these?
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment

2007-04-26 Thread Matt
Symantec is being short-sighted.  This is the same spammer sending this 
virus that was responsible for the seeded outbreak around New Year's.  
He starts his attacks at a moment's notice and ends them just as 
quickly.  He can change his text faster than Symantec will ever be able 
to keep up with should he care to do so.  He sends these through his 
network of spam zombies which he typically uses to send out stock spam.


McAfee was detecting this within 2 hours of it first being seen.  I saw 
hundreds of these within those two hours though.  Thankfully it appears 
that almost all if not all were blocked as spam.  Another saving grace 
is the fact that it came out as an encrypted RAR which very few people 
have support for.


Be absolutely certain that he will be back.

Matt



Gary Steiner wrote:

Basically that is what ClamAV is doing.  It detects it as a phishing spam.


 Original Message 
  

From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:11 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment

Gary, you beat them by a day with your own assessment, but Symantec
blogged about this virus twice today:

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2007/04/spam
_attack_rared_trojan.html

An interesting point is that they have blocked 1.2 million messages by
tackling the text of the message as spam.

Andrew.
 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Gary Steiner

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:31 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment

I started getting some messages today that were picked up as 
spam, but were not being identified as viruses.  They looked 
suspicious, having subject lines of


Virus Activity Detected!
Spyware Alert!

It containes a .gif message that tells the user to open the 
.rar file and run the patch there to protect them from the 
virus/spyware.


I ran it on www.virustotal.com, and the only scanner that 
picked it up was McAfee, and it identified it as W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED].


http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_142094.htm

Since this a password protected .rar file, should we now be 
blocking these?







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[Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted RAR virus and Declude failures

2007-04-26 Thread Matt
I have downloaded a copy of the virus and inspected it.  The file is a 
functional encrypted RAR with an EXE inside of the same file name.  I 
also researched why Declude might not be catching this and I believe 
that I know why.


Declude will properly detect an executable within a RAR file and the 
fact that the file is encrypted.  I verified this with my own test on a 
file that I encrypted.  The problem however is the fact that you can 
also encrypt the file name within a RAR and not just the file.  The 
virus that was being spammed encrypted both the file name and the file, 
so Declude likely got hung up on trying to extract the name from the RAR.


Note to Dave.  This took me all of 30 minutes to figure out.  
Unfortunately there is somewhat of a conundrum here as you will need to 
introduce new functionality in order to handle this appropriately.  
While I don't expect that RAR files will be commonly used for viruses 
due to the rarity of the client, it is definitely necessary to allow 
users to block encrypted RAR's when the file names are not extractable.  
I have a recommendation for how to handle this which would be quite 
consistent with current behavior and possibly help with unexpected 
conditions with ZIP's too:


   For both encrypted ZIP's and encrypted RAR's where the file names
   can't be extracted, assume that it contains an EXE.  This will allow
   for those that want to block all encrypted files and those that only
   want to block them when there is an executable inside to maintain
   proper levels of protection.


Let me know if you would like some more feedback or information.

Thanks,

Matt


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