Re: [Declude.Virus] Patch Tuesday and graphic images

2005-07-12 Thread Nick Hayer

Thanks Andrew!

-Nick

Colbeck, Andrew wrote:


Today is Microsoft Patch Tuesday for July 2005.

One of the bulletins is:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-036.mspx

Which fails to indicate which graphics formats are affected by this
vulnerability.  It does mention that abuse thereof is indeed in the
wild.  Presumably on websites, but if you want to make sure that it is
not happening in email, you will want to remove these optimizations from
your Declude virus.cfg file:

SKIPEXT JPG
SKIPEXT JPEG
SKIPEXT PNG
SKIPEXT TIF
SKIPEXT TIFF

This contradicts my posting in May 2005 that Scott Perry said that JPG
skipping was ok vis a vis MS04-028 Q833987 because Declude Virus checks
for corrupt JPG regardless of the SKIPEXT behaviour.  That is, unless
the Declude code is so good that it checks all three of these formats
for rigorous adherence to their standards such that it protects the
Microsoft libraries!


Andrew 8)




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Re: [Declude.Virus] Patch Tuesday and graphic images

2005-07-12 Thread Scott Fisher
...and hope that Declude or the AV-Engine will catch this vulnerability as 
soon as possible.


I completely agree. As a publishing company we receive lots of large jpeg 
files and the thought of having to virus scan all those, makes my mail 
server want to run and hide.


I'd like to see a comment from Declude. But they seem to be in their 
information cloak cycle again.


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Andrew thanks for the info


...you will want
to remove these optimizations from your Declude virus.cfg file:

SKIPEXT JPG
SKIPEXT JPEG
SKIPEXT PNG
SKIPEXT TIF
SKIPEXT TIFF


... and hope that Declude or the AV-Engine will catch this vulnerability 
as

soon as possible.
As much as I can understand from reading the KB-Article it's something
similar to the GDI-Exploit but not the same.

Markus

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Patch Tuesday and graphic images

2005-07-12 Thread Markus Gufler

Andrew thanks for the info

> ...you will want 
> to remove these optimizations from your Declude virus.cfg file:
> 
> SKIPEXT   JPG
> SKIPEXT   JPEG
> SKIPEXT   PNG
> SKIPEXT   TIF
> SKIPEXT   TIFF

... and hope that Declude or the AV-Engine will catch this vulnerability as
soon as possible.
As much as I can understand from reading the KB-Article it's something
similar to the GDI-Exploit but not the same. 

Markus

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Patch Tuesday and graphic images

2005-07-12 Thread Matt
They really didn't give enough information that would allow one to 
figure out the extent of the vulnerability here.  Only RGB and CMYK 
images should have ICC profiles, but the programs that open such images 
will also open up images that have set pallets such as GIF's and BMP's.  
I don't know whether or not their software might try to open an ICC 
profile in a format in which it is not supported (or useless for).  So I 
suppose that it is a possibility that even GIF's could be affected.


It would seem to be minimally prudent to scan JPG, JPEG and PNG since 
these are the most likely to be exploited and are almost universally 
supported in E-mail clients and Web browsers.  The other ones are rare 
in E-mail so it wouldn't cause hardly any extra load to scan them.  
Scanning GIF's on the other hand might be a noticeable extra load and a 
real shame.


It's quite unbelievable that Microsoft did this twice.  We're quite 
lucky that the JPG viruses never started being spread by E-mail, but who 
knows, maybe that was not very practical to exploit and maybe this one 
is.  It's certainly an equation for disaster, especially in the fact 
that it was previously reported that images were parsed by the Web 
browser before they were written to the cache where an antivirus program 
could scan them.  That is hearsay until I see it in action though.


Matt




Colbeck, Andrew wrote:


Today is Microsoft Patch Tuesday for July 2005.

One of the bulletins is:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-036.mspx

Which fails to indicate which graphics formats are affected by this
vulnerability.  It does mention that abuse thereof is indeed in the
wild.  Presumably on websites, but if you want to make sure that it is
not happening in email, you will want to remove these optimizations from
your Declude virus.cfg file:

SKIPEXT JPG
SKIPEXT JPEG
SKIPEXT PNG
SKIPEXT TIF
SKIPEXT TIFF

This contradicts my posting in May 2005 that Scott Perry said that JPG
skipping was ok vis a vis MS04-028 Q833987 because Declude Virus checks
for corrupt JPG regardless of the SKIPEXT behaviour.  That is, unless
the Declude code is so good that it checks all three of these formats
for rigorous adherence to their standards such that it protects the
Microsoft libraries!


Andrew 8)




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[Declude.Virus] Patch Tuesday and graphic images

2005-07-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Today is Microsoft Patch Tuesday for July 2005.

One of the bulletins is:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-036.mspx

Which fails to indicate which graphics formats are affected by this
vulnerability.  It does mention that abuse thereof is indeed in the
wild.  Presumably on websites, but if you want to make sure that it is
not happening in email, you will want to remove these optimizations from
your Declude virus.cfg file:

SKIPEXT JPG
SKIPEXT JPEG
SKIPEXT PNG
SKIPEXT TIF
SKIPEXT TIFF

This contradicts my posting in May 2005 that Scott Perry said that JPG
skipping was ok vis a vis MS04-028 Q833987 because Declude Virus checks
for corrupt JPG regardless of the SKIPEXT behaviour.  That is, unless
the Declude code is so good that it checks all three of these formats
for rigorous adherence to their standards such that it protects the
Microsoft libraries!


Andrew 8)




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