Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Hi Steve, As much as I didn't want to continue this thread, I had to pick up on the Osborne 1. In one of my first jobs after Uni (81/82) I introduced one of these to NZI so they could do stuff outside the DP Dept. I recall setting up a Supercalc spreadsheet to do branch budgets, but the twin 380kb floppies could only hold about 3 branch files, so I wrote a program in Basic to read these Supercalc files 3 at a time, prompting for disk changes etc to consolidate the budgets for regional/NZ/Group totals (about 50 branches from memory). What used to take them several days at each regional centre took only minutes and they were sold. The tiny screen wasn't the best though for large spreadsheets. Shortly after that I bought dBase, then Turbo Pascal (1) on 8 floppy And I still have a piece of core memory from the Uni Burroughs B6700...it was a throwaway as too many of the fragile core rings were broken. I keep it in a shoebox in the middle... Steve _ From: Steve Peacocke [mailto:st...@peacocke.net] Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 12:57 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC Oh dear Phil, you sound as young as I do. How about the Commodore Pet in 1979? then a soldered together computer from a kitset and resembled a ZX80 and had a whole 1kb of memory to play with. A couple fo years later I remember a discussion with someone telling them for a serious business computer you needed at least 16kb of memory and even a disc drive. I still have an early Osborne 1 computer - anyone with the old 8 inch floppy Panasonic lying around in a back bedroom? Steve Peacocke On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz mailto:p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Nah, my tape-drive only TRS-80 was way cooler. :-) -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz mailto:delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 03/30/09 08:40:00 ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Adding ram is always better than ready boost. How fast was the flash drive? Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington John Bird wrote: I tried a USB read-boost (Toshiba 2GB one which said it was ready-boost ready.) As far as I could tell it made no difference at all. However upping memory to 4GB certainly did. Process Explorer said I was often using more than 2GB Ram, I think Vista 32 bit can use a bit over 3GB, and the rest gets using for caching. Have heard mixed reports about Vista 64 bit. Most say its excellent, one friend I have who does heavy duty work with high definition video editing/composiiting/animation says its totally crap as he blue screens it all the time. John D2007 runs very well with 4GB memory, a big improvement from when I I've been in 2GB for a while, recently upping to 3, but also running a 4GB SD card for ReadyBoost 'n such. -Occasionally fails to resume after suspend, and I lose everything open. (So I record what windows are open as part of the suspend). Very rare, but I see that occasionally. Or a spontanous reboot going into sleep mode (that's what it looks like anyway). Could be drivers I guess, but too rare to bother trying to track. -After resume there is a long wait (20-30 sec) while a dialogue pops up saying Windows Explorer is not responding - do you want to Never seen that. I'm usually resuming from Sleep mode; I don't hibernate, and only reboot about once a week. These are computers that you have had Vista installed for a while ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Hiow about a PDP-8 with core memory... Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:49:09 +1100 From: jeremy.no...@gmail.com To: delphi@delphi.org.nz Subject: Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC Our first PC was a Vic-20. I was about 9 or 10 when we got it. I converted a snake game engine into a two player top down car racing game. Those were the days! On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Nah, my tape-drive only TRS-80 was way cooler. :-) -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe _ Got a 2008 financial hangover? Let MSN NZ Money help you recover. http://money.msn.co.nz___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
I much prefer one monitor over two. Good grief. Debugging with two is fantastic. I find it hard to fit two monitors on my lap g. So I make do with the one widescreen. When I had a desktop setup, I tried dual monitor for a while, but it didn't gel, for all that I generally like lots of screen real estate. Turns out the times I really needed the benefits didn't justify the hassle of turning it on and/or taking up the desk space all the rest of the time. cheers, peter === Peter Hyde, Development Director * http://TurboNote.com -- top-rated onscreen sticky notes * Web development and automation: http://webcentre.co.nz ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
What brands have others liked? Asus, for desktops and laptops. Almost all our in-house systems are that. Our latest at home purchase is an EEE 1000H which is just another home appliance in the lounge; fantastic. Sony has been the best in my experience. Used to love Sony, but will never buy another of their products (appalling customer-service experience a couple of years ago; they had their chance and blew it out of the water). How many of you are developing on a laptop I made the switch about four years ago. While our business has always run from our home-office, I've been lounge-chair based since '05. In the '80s I used to work in laptop software design for a manufacturer in Japan, so had a keen sense of their limitations for many years. Never liked them. But at some point, the price-performance-capability curve was going to persuade me and, ultimately, it did. No regrets. My first computer experience was on a VAX 780. 2 MB Ram, 550 MB Just.don't.start. It's not Friday, and we are not in Yorkshire. g cheers, peter === Peter Hyde, Development Director * http://TurboNote.com -- top-rated onscreen sticky notes * Web development and automation: http://webcentre.co.nz ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
My first computer experience was on a VAX 780. 2 MB Ram, 550 MB Just.don't.start. It's not Friday, and we are not in Yorkshire. g Aww. Come on, where's the fun! Vax780?, that was luxury. We thought we were spoiled with a 1MB Vax 750. I started with PORTRAN cards on IBM via local bank, graduated to the Burroughs at Uni, and then oh joy, the vax. In fact still have a vax (well alpha 2000) in my office. -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
this is starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch when I were a lad we were lucky to have computa, and we lived in a sho box on middle road and:-) Jeremy On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: My first computer experience was on a VAX 780. 2 MB Ram, 550 MB Just.don't.start. It's not Friday, and we are not in Yorkshire. g Aww. Come on, where's the fun! Vax780?, that was luxury. We thought we were spoiled with a 1MB Vax 750. I started with PORTRAN cards on IBM via local bank, graduated to the Burroughs at Uni, and then oh joy, the vax. In fact still have a vax (well alpha 2000) in my office. -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Phil As a Schlumerger Trainee I used a PDP 11/23 but I think you will all have to take a bow to my ex business partner Lawrence Wilkinson as to his story with an IBM 360 see here http://homepages.kcbbs.gen.nz/nbree/saga.html Neven My first computer experience was on a VAX 780. 2 MB Ram, 550 MB Just.don't.start. It's not Friday, and we are not in Yorkshire. g Aww. Come on, where's the fun! Vax780?, that was luxury. We thought we were spoiled with a 1MB Vax 750. I started with PORTRAN cards on IBM via local bank, graduated to the Burroughs at Uni, and then oh joy, the vax. In fact still have a vax (well alpha 2000) in my office. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
this is starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch when I were a lad we were lucky to have computa, and we lived in a sho box on middle road and:-) Of course - that what the reference to Yorkshire was about. (4 Yorkshiremen sketch) -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
As a Schlumerger Trainee I used a PDP 11/23 but I think you will all I have fond memories of the PDP as well. The original vax was shared with all of DSIR. We had PDP that was the local computer till we got our vax in 1985. However, have to take a bow to my ex business partner Lawrence Wilkinson as to his story with an IBM 360 see here Great story. -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Jeremy On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: As a Schlumerger Trainee I used a PDP 11/23 but I think you will all I have fond memories of the PDP as well. The original vax was shared with all of DSIR. We had PDP that was the local computer till we got our vax in 1985. However, have to take a bow to my ex business partner Lawrence Wilkinson as to his story with an IBM 360 see here Great story. -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Nah, my tape-drive only TRS-80 was way cooler. :-) -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Our first PC was a Vic-20. I was about 9 or 10 when we got it. I converted a snake game engine into a two player top down car racing game. Those were the days! On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Nah, my tape-drive only TRS-80 was way cooler. :-) -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
I also early on used PDPs for nearly 10 years.tall rack mounted one. I still remember how I cursed when it had to be moved from one building to next door, when I found out the rack was 1/4 taller than the lift doors. That meant the whole thing had to be dissasembled to move it. The PDP was the only computer I came across smart enough to put this error message as it died - on a console screen when someone accidentally turned of the main system power. ?MON-F-Power Failure Thats the computer equivalent of Shakespeare The rest is silence It ended up in a dump bin in the mid 1990's. But not for long. Most of it was taken by scavengers by the next morning. Hope they knew what they were getting! John___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Oh dear Phil, you sound as young as I do. How about the Commodore Pet in 1979? then a soldered together computer from a kitset and resembled a ZX80 and had a whole 1kb of memory to play with. A couple fo years later I remember a discussion with someone telling them for a serious business computer you needed at least 16kb of memory and even a disc drive. I still have an early Osborne 1 computer - anyone with the old 8 inch floppy Panasonic lying around in a back bedroom? Steve Peacocke On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Nah, my tape-drive only TRS-80 was way cooler. :-) -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
Nearly, but by the time I could afford one, I got a ZX Spectrum +3 instead! Built-in tape drive, etc. I remember those 16kb expansion packs tho'. Wobbly upright things IIRC. Sort of thing you had to prop upright/wedge in with a piece of lego or similar! Indeed, those were the days... From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 12:34 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Jeremy On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nz wrote: As a Schlumerger Trainee I used a PDP 11/23 but I think you will all I have fond memories of the PDP as well. The original vax was shared with all of DSIR. We had PDP that was the local computer till we got our vax in 1985. However, have to take a bow to my ex business partner Lawrence Wilkinson as to his story with an IBM 360 see here Great story. -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
for out 16km expansion pack we tried blue-tac and cellotape to hold it in place and drilled holes in it to keep it cool. In the end . we bought a Spectrum..then did the 48kb mem upgrade.smoking !! :-) I remember a mate of mine spending all day entering in a hundreds of lines of code from a magazine for a program, and his dog tripped over the power cable..hahahahathose were the days :-) On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Conor Boyd conor.b...@trimble.co.nzwrote: Nearly, but by the time I could afford one, I got a ZX Spectrum +3 instead! Built-in tape drive, etc. I remember those 16kb expansion packs tho'. Wobbly upright things IIRC. Sort of thing you had to prop upright/wedge in with a piece of lego or similar! Indeed, those were the days... -- *From:* delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Coulter *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 March 2009 12:34 p.m. *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List *Subject:* Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC ok, here we go then... who had a a ZX81 then eh?? better stil who had a ZX81 with a 16kb expansion pack ?? (apart from me) Jeremy On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Phil Scadden p.scad...@gns.cri.nzwrote: As a Schlumerger Trainee I used a PDP 11/23 but I think you will all I have fond memories of the PDP as well. The original vax was shared with all of DSIR. We had PDP that was the local computer till we got our vax in 1985. However, have to take a bow to my ex business partner Lawrence Wilkinson as to his story with an IBM 360 see here Great story. -- Phil Scadden, Senior Scientist GNS Science Ltd 764 Cumberland St, Private Bag 1930, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph +64 3 4799663, fax +64 3 477 5232 Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. Do not copy or disclose the contents. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
In all seriousness Vista is a pig with resources. If you get a fast quad core computer and 4GB of RAM and configure Vista so it doesn't do stupid things (eg constantly re-index everything on your hard drive while you are trying to develop) then it might be OK. Might. Your mileage may vary of course - if you find Vista is fast and great for you then let us know! I have less RAM, and only dual core, but Vista 64 has been fine for me for over a year. Naturally I turned off indexing and tweaked a lot of senseless as-installed features. I don't particularly miss Vista when I switch to an XP or server edition though. Nice backup... cheers, peter === Peter Hyde, Development Director * http://TurboNote.com -- top-rated onscreen sticky notes * Web development and automation: http://webcentre.co.nz ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
What sort of extra Vista stuff did you turn off? I think the extra crap in Vista comes from its origins in the Windows Server 2003 code base, there are parts of Vista that look very much like server admin tools - such as the Reliability Monitor under Control Panel/Admin tools. Vista works fine for me too.I also noticed a lot of the glitches disappeared over time, likely from Windows updates - such as networks that didn't reconnect after moving from one to another - they really fixed that and its now way better than XP. D2007 runs very well with 4GB memory, a big improvement from when I only had 2GB, particularly obvious when calling up functions like refactoring which used to have a slow load time - I presume it was swapping in. It didn't fix the MS Document Explorer (help) though, which still takes ages to load and for good measure locks the PC up while it does so. Once loaded its fast, but it really makes one hesitate to press F1 for context help. Only remaining gripes are -Occasionally fails to resume after suspend, and I lose everything open. (So I record what windows are open as part of the suspend). -After resume there is a long wait (20-30 sec) while a dialogue pops up saying Windows Explorer is not responding - do you want to Wait/Close the program/Restart Explorer?. How that one ever got past their QA I don't know, it looks just embarrassing. It does however come to life eventually. John I have less RAM, and only dual core, but Vista 64 has been fine for me for over a year. Naturally I turned off indexing and tweaked a lot of senseless as-installed features. I don't particularly miss Vista when I switch to an XP or server edition though. Nice backup... cheers, peter ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
What sort of extra Vista stuff did you turn off? I have a very long tweaks list (not all Vista specific); if I prune it a bit for anything sensitive, I can email it your way if you like. Such things are very personal, of course. I think the extra crap in Vista comes from its origins in the Windows Server 2003 code base, there are parts of Vista that look very much like server admin tools - such as the Reliability Monitor under Control Panel/Admin tools. Aye. And a lot of it was related to their desired security model, firewalling and so on. Which, on the whole, has worked well. D2007 runs very well with 4GB memory, a big improvement from when I I've been in 2GB for a while, recently upping to 3, but also running a 4GB SD card for ReadyBoost 'n such. -Occasionally fails to resume after suspend, and I lose everything open. (So I record what windows are open as part of the suspend). Very rare, but I see that occasionally. Or a spontanous reboot going into sleep mode (that's what it looks like anyway). Could be drivers I guess, but too rare to bother trying to track. -After resume there is a long wait (20-30 sec) while a dialogue pops up saying Windows Explorer is not responding - do you want to Never seen that. I'm usually resuming from Sleep mode; I don't hibernate, and only reboot about once a week. These are computers that you have had Vista installed for a while then? Did you start with SP1 or upgrade to it? I think I went right to SP1 at the time I installed V64 about 14 months ago. cheers, peter === Peter Hyde, Development Director * http://TurboNote.com -- top-rated onscreen sticky notes * Web development and automation: http://webcentre.co.nz ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
What are others experience with suspend/sleep? Is OSX better - I get the impression it may be. Linux? Hibernate was often slow/reluctant to resume, so I tend to power off completely for trips, unless it's just across town in which case Sleep. Sleep has been just fine for round-the-office stuff and overnight, but I was sometimes dismayed to find that it didn't properly sleep on lid-close (hence overheat scenario overnight). So I've taken to explicitly hitting Fn+F1 (sleep on my laptop) and waiting the 4 or so seconds to make sure, before I close the lid. cheers, peter === Peter Hyde, Development Director * http://TurboNote.com -- top-rated onscreen sticky notes * Web development and automation: http://webcentre.co.nz ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
isnt there some issue with 64bit and Adobe acrobat reader? I think not. In the past I've noticed occasional issues with it in Firefox embedded mode, but not recently. And outside, no problems. cheers, peter === Peter Hyde, Development Director * http://TurboNote.com -- top-rated onscreen sticky notes * Web development and automation: http://webcentre.co.nz ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
Re: [DUG] [DUG-Offtopic] new PC
I tried a USB read-boost (Toshiba 2GB one which said it was ready-boost ready.) As far as I could tell it made no difference at all. However upping memory to 4GB certainly did. Process Explorer said I was often using more than 2GB Ram, I think Vista 32 bit can use a bit over 3GB, and the rest gets using for caching. Have heard mixed reports about Vista 64 bit. Most say its excellent, one friend I have who does heavy duty work with high definition video editing/composiiting/animation says its totally crap as he blue screens it all the time. John D2007 runs very well with 4GB memory, a big improvement from when I I've been in 2GB for a while, recently upping to 3, but also running a 4GB SD card for ReadyBoost 'n such. -Occasionally fails to resume after suspend, and I lose everything open. (So I record what windows are open as part of the suspend). Very rare, but I see that occasionally. Or a spontanous reboot going into sleep mode (that's what it looks like anyway). Could be drivers I guess, but too rare to bother trying to track. -After resume there is a long wait (20-30 sec) while a dialogue pops up saying Windows Explorer is not responding - do you want to Never seen that. I'm usually resuming from Sleep mode; I don't hibernate, and only reboot about once a week. These are computers that you have had Vista installed for a while ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
