Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread David Brennan
Except when I try this I get the message that Install limit cannot be
increased for this product..

I'll email them I guess!

David.

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Hi Jeremy

Like others have said. I think it's 10 but can confirm for you if you like. 

Note, you don't have to call anyone when you hit the limit. If you go to
https://reg.codegear.com/srs6/registration_increase.jsp you can bump the
limit up yourself. 

Cheers
Malcolm

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Embarcadero Technologies
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On 02/12/2010, at 8:40 AM, Jeremy Coulter jscoul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you
need to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?
 I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my
count is now 4 :-)
 
 
 Thanks, Jeremy
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Malcolm Groves
Which product is it David? That's a new one on me.

Cheers
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread David Brennan
Hi Malcolm

You might have meant to reply off list (that reply for gets people all the
time!) but since it seems fairly benign content wise I'm replying on list
for now.

That was Delphi 2007 Enterprise, electronic download version I think. 

Looks like the registration limit was set to 5 and Quinn Wildman at
Embarcadero has now bumped it from 5 to 7 after I emailed them. He didn't
answer my question about why the online bumping wouldn't work.

We'll immediately be consuming one of these extra registrations in order to
get it re-registered on a developer computer. It was already registered on
the machine but we had a powercut and the UPS died just as the developer was
starting Delphi, after he rebooted he got a message saying the registration
file was corrupted. Seemed strange to me, I would have thought Delphi
starting up would just be reading the registration file but I guess it must
write to it also in order for corruption to occur. We've had one or two
cases of registration file corruption before I think but have never really
known why it happens.

So that leaves us with one spare on that serial. We've obviously been a bit
too carefree with using the registrations because I have a feeling all of
our serials are in a similar state. Not a problem so long as they will bump
them when emailed and so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without
registration!

Cheers,
David.


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Which product is it David? That's a new one on me.

Cheers
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Jolyon Smith
 so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!

I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use for some
versions now.

Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission to use
something you legitimately own in order to use it.

Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase, and I
remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but subsequently/more
recently it didn't seem possible (either my memory was playing tricks on me,
and other people, or they changed something in an update maybe).

iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions, if you do not
activate you get dumped straight back out... no grace period.

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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Jeremy North
Delphi 7 doesn't require activation. Every version since gives you 30 days
use before requiring activation.
On 03/12/2010 11:17 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote:
 so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!

 I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use for some
 versions now.

 Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission to use
 something you legitimately own in order to use it.

 Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase, and I
 remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but subsequently/more
 recently it didn't seem possible (either my memory was playing tricks on
me,
 and other people, or they changed something in an update maybe).

 iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions, if you do
not
 activate you get dumped straight back out... no grace period.

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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Cheng Wei (FMI)
I believe Jolyon is correct, I can confirm there is no grace period for
D2006.

A while ago one of our developers left and we hired a new developer,
installed and registered D2006 on a new PC. After every few weeks
(sometimes as short as 2 weeks) he would be shut out of Delphi unless we
re-register, reg has always been successful but it is really strange
that he has to do this over and over again, everyone else in the team is
fine.

Borland/CodeGear/Embarcadero product registration has always been
problematic for us, especially when registering Interbase licenses,
always hit and miss, sometimes it allows us to bump sometimes doesn't,
gave exactly the same error message as David received.

I really hope Embarcadero will look into fixing their registration
tools.

Thanks

Cheng Wei
Software Development Manager
Fairview Metal Industries
M   +64 21 410 776
P+64 9 984 4917
F+64 9 984 4993
  che...@fmi.co.nz
  www.fmi.co.nz
 

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|Sent: Friday, 3 December 2010 1:13 p.m.
|To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
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|
| so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!
|
|I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use 
|for some versions now.
|
|Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission 
|to use something you legitimately own in order to use it.
|
|Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase, 
|and I remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but 
|subsequently/more recently it didn't seem possible (either my 
|memory was playing tricks on me, and other people, or they 
|changed something in an update maybe).
|
|iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions, 
|if you do not activate you get dumped straight back out... no 
|grace period.
|
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Jeremy North
What you are describing doesn't sound like a grace period issue, especially
if it happens after a few weeks of use.
On 03/12/2010 11:39 AM, Cheng Wei (FMI) che...@fmi.co.nz wrote:
 I believe Jolyon is correct, I can confirm there is no grace period for
 D2006.

 A while ago one of our developers left and we hired a new developer,
 installed and registered D2006 on a new PC. After every few weeks
 (sometimes as short as 2 weeks) he would be shut out of Delphi unless we
 re-register, reg has always been successful but it is really strange
 that he has to do this over and over again, everyone else in the team is
 fine.

 Borland/CodeGear/Embarcadero product registration has always been
 problematic for us, especially when registering Interbase licenses,
 always hit and miss, sometimes it allows us to bump sometimes doesn't,
 gave exactly the same error message as David received.

 I really hope Embarcadero will look into fixing their registration
 tools.

 Thanks

 Cheng Wei
 Software Development Manager
 Fairview Metal Industries
 M +64 21 410 776
 P +64 9 984 4917
 F +64 9 984 4993
 che...@fmi.co.nz
 www.fmi.co.nz


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 |[mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith
 |Sent: Friday, 3 December 2010 1:13 p.m.
 |To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
 |Subject: Re: [DUG] Current Registrations
 |
 | so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!
 |
 |I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use
 |for some versions now.
 |
 |Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission
 |to use something you legitimately own in order to use it.
 |
 |Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase,
 |and I remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but
 |subsequently/more recently it didn't seem possible (either my
 |memory was playing tricks on me, and other people, or they
 |changed something in an update maybe).
 |
 |iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions,
 |if you do not activate you get dumped straight back out... no
 |grace period.
 |
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Jolyon Smith
Ø  Delphi 7 doesn't require activation. 

As I said, that was my recollection, but when I tried to use it most
recently I found that my recollection was wrong (or, as I said, that
something else had changed in the meantime – all I know is, I did have to
register it, either at the outset or eventually).

 

Ø  Every version since gives you 30 days use before requiring activation.

Is there some trick to getting the grace period?  Because this doesn’t fit
my experience.

 

On 03/12/2010 11:17 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote:
 so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!
 
 I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use for some
 versions now.
 
 Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission to use
 something you legitimately own in order to use it.
 
 Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase, and I
 remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but subsequently/more
 recently it didn't seem possible (either my memory was playing tricks on
me,
 and other people, or they changed something in an update maybe).
 
 iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions, if you do
not
 activate you get dumped straight back out... no grace period.
 
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Jeremy North
From memory you select cancel in the activation dialog. Another dialog
shows, dismiss it and then if no previous installs of the version have been
detected you should see the splash screen and it will say something like
Unregisted 30 days remaining in red.

I might install on a vm tonight and capture it. Any particular version -
except the one that takes over an hour to install. I have all versions.
On 03/12/2010 11:55 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote:
 Ø Delphi 7 doesn't require activation.

 As I said, that was my recollection, but when I tried to use it most
 recently I found that my recollection was wrong (or, as I said, that
 something else had changed in the meantime – all I know is, I did have to
 register it, either at the outset or eventually).



 Ø Every version since gives you 30 days use before requiring activation.

 Is there some trick to getting the grace period? Because this doesn’t fit
 my experience.



 On 03/12/2010 11:17 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote:
 so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!

 I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use for some
 versions now.

 Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission to use
 something you legitimately own in order to use it.

 Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase, and I
 remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but subsequently/more
 recently it didn't seem possible (either my memory was playing tricks on
 me,
 and other people, or they changed something in an update maybe).

 iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions, if you do
 not
 activate you get dumped straight back out... no grace period.

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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-02 Thread Jolyon Smith
Aha.  This may be the key:

 

Ø  if no previous installs of the version have been detected

 

I think in most recent cases, a trial version has been installed initially,
for a “look-see” at the new release, prior to installing the full version.

 

I can also only presume that trial versions of all products follow the
example of RAD PHP XE – the most recent Embarcadero install which I was
unlucky enough to experience - which absolutely did not let you in without
activation (which in my case meant not at all since the activation failed,
but that didn’t stop it consuming the 1 and only activation attempt
permitted.  Game over).

 

 

From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jeremy North
Sent: Friday, 3 December 2010 14:36
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

 

From memory you select cancel in the activation dialog. Another dialog
shows, dismiss it and then if no previous installs of the version have been
detected you should see the splash screen and it will say something like
Unregisted 30 days remaining in red. 

I might install on a vm tonight and capture it. Any particular version -
except the one that takes over an hour to install. I have all versions.

On 03/12/2010 11:55 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote:
 Ø Delphi 7 doesn't require activation. 
 
 As I said, that was my recollection, but when I tried to use it most
 recently I found that my recollection was wrong (or, as I said, that
 something else had changed in the meantime – all I know is, I did have to
 register it, either at the outset or eventually).
 
 
 
 Ø Every version since gives you 30 days use before requiring activation.
 
 Is there some trick to getting the grace period? Because this doesn’t fit
 my experience.
 
 
 
 On 03/12/2010 11:17 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote:
 so long as Delphi keeps working for 30 days without registration!
 
 I'm pretty sure it hasn't allowed unregistered/unactivated use for some
 versions now.
 
 Delphi 6 was the last time you didn't have to get permission to use
 something you legitimately own in order to use it.
 
 Delphi 7 reportedly allowed you to freely enjoy your purchase, and I
 remember using my own D7 in that state at one time, but subsequently/more
 recently it didn't seem possible (either my memory was playing tricks on
 me,
 and other people, or they changed something in an update maybe).
 
 iirc with Delphi 2010, at least and possibly earlier versions, if you do
 not
 activate you get dumped straight back out... no grace period.
 
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[DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-01 Thread Jeremy Coulter
Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you need
to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?
I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my count
is now 4 :-)


Thanks, Jeremy
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-01 Thread David Moorhouse (DUG)
Where I work we think it is around 10.

HTH

D


 Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you
 need
 to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?
 I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my
 count
 is now 4 :-)


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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-01 Thread Jeremy Coulter
David, where you work, thats the number of line we both right in a day :-)

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, David Moorhouse (DUG) 
del...@moorhouse.net.nz wrote:

 Where I work we think it is around 10.

 HTH

 D


  Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you
  need
  to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?
  I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my
  count
  is now 4 :-)
 
 
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-01 Thread Jolyon Smith
For trial versions it seems to be 1 (one)

 

Which was a real pain when my Rad PHP trial activation failed, but only
after bumping the count.  Needless to say, I didn't bother trying to sort
that out - I just went back to NetBeans... it has some annoying querks, but
it's free and, more importantly, ownership is free of such hassles as a
flawed and burdensome activation scheme and comes without the worry of
whether I will be able to use what I am already entitled to use the next
time I need to install it on a fresh machine.

 

/rant

 

From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter
Sent: Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:39
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: [DUG] Current Registrations

 

Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you need
to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?

I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my count
is now 4 :-)

 

 

Thanks, Jeremy

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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-01 Thread Malcolm Groves
Hi Jeremy

Like others have said. I think it's 10 but can confirm for you if you like. 

Note, you don't have to call anyone when you hit the limit. If you go to 
https://reg.codegear.com/srs6/registration_increase.jsp you can bump the limit 
up yourself. 

Cheers
Malcolm

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Embarcadero Technologies
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On 02/12/2010, at 8:40 AM, Jeremy Coulter jscoul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you need 
 to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?
 I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my count 
 is now 4 :-)
 
 
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Re: [DUG] Current Registrations

2010-12-01 Thread Jeremy Coulter
Thanks Malcolm.

Jeremy

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Malcolm Groves 
malcolm.gro...@embarcadero.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremy

 Like others have said. I think it's 10 but can confirm for you if you like.

 Note, you don't have to call anyone when you hit the limit. If you go to
 https://reg.codegear.com/srs6/registration_increase.jsp you can bump the
 limit up yourself.

 Cheers
 Malcolm

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 Embarcadero Technologies
 http://www.embarcadero.com

 Phone: +61 416 264 204
 Skype: malcolmgroves


 On 02/12/2010, at 8:40 AM, Jeremy Coulter jscoul...@gmail.com wrote:

  Does any one know what the Current Registrations count is before you
 need to contact Embarcadero to get it reset?
  I had been playing around with some Vm's a while back and I noticed my
 count is now 4 :-)
 
 
  Thanks, Jeremy
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