Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

Its possible Sanctuary is down (the registration server). You DO need to be
online to do it tho. All I can recommend is, try, try again :) Failing that,
call Olivia on 09-3600231 and she shoudl be able to atleast provide some way
for you to get your rego number via the phone/fax/email, tho I'm pretty sure
she can't do it on the spot - yet.

You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
bugged everytime D6 starts up :(

Nic.
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Subject: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


 Hi

 We have loaded D6 Pro this morning and have been trying to register it. We
 are using our Borland Community identity and
 we are getting a Connection Failed when the registration is trying to
 connection to the Registration Server.

 As anyone had this and know how to get around it?

 Thanks
 Eion McIntosh
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Mark Derricutt

If that would be illegal, how come MS can do it with their activation 
stuff?

And what happens if you don't have net access?  (or, email only access).

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 You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
 bugged everytime D6 starts up :(



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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Corey Murtagh

From: Mark Derricutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If that would be illegal, how come MS can do it with their activation
 stuff?

Did you follow the last time someone tried to take M$ to court?  They get
away with a lot of stuff because they're just too damn big.

 And what happens if you don't have net access?  (or, email only access).

Then you get bugged a lot I guess :

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RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread David O'Brien

Naar er den beste tiden? Skal vi taa med vodka?

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Derricutt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


If that would be illegal, how come MS can do it with their activation 
stuff?

And what happens if you don't have net access?  (or, email only access).

--On Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:25 AM +1200 Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
 bugged everytime D6 starts up :(



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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

I dont know. All I know is, our lawyers threw up their hands and said you
can't do that - if someone buys a product, they have to be able to use it,
regardless. Maybe there's a class action suit there against MS :)

If you dont have net access, you can call us (or the 0800# I think - its on
the dialog), give us the number it generates, and we give you back a number
(std challange response) and all is well.

N
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Subject: Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


If that would be illegal, how come MS can do it with their activation
stuff?

And what happens if you don't have net access?  (or, email only access).

--On Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:25 AM +1200 Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
 bugged everytime D6 starts up :(



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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

yes, you get bugged about it around 1x per week, I think. JBuilder bugs you
every time you load it.

AFAIK, it doesn't grab your credit card, molest your cat, or any of the
other things that the MS one is supposed to do - it just takes the key, and
some form of finger print of your machine (maybe, I'm not sure about that
even) and says add one to the install count for this key - if it hits 3,
we get notified, I _think_ (not a lot of info has come out on it yet).

then I guess we call you and ask you why you've installed 1 copy of d6
enterprise on 42 machines :)

I would imagine that, to get update s(eg, delphi 6.01 :) ) you need to be
registered. ;-) Big enough carrot for you?

If anyone _is_ paranoid enough about it, I'll see what I can extract from
the people in the US, but seriously, I dont think its an invasion of your
privacy at all - just a way for us to monitor installs of the product
(kinda) so piracy can be kept to a minimum, without using something like
Macrovision SoftDisc (which was going to be used, until it was found to fail
on around 50-60% of beta testers machines!).

N
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From: Eion McIntosh (CHCH) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


 Are you or do you get a box when D6 starts up about registering or not
being
 registered?
 They only thing that show ups in Unregistered on the splash screen and it
 goes staight in with no other intervention required

 Eion

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  Subject: Re: [DUG]:  Delphi 6 Registration
 
  You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
  bugged everytime D6 starts up :(
 
  Nic.
 
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Mark Derricutt

Well Mr Borland, its windows you see, and that darn blue screen meant I 
had to reinstalled Windows 42 (#*($ times, its only on one machine 
*mutter* :P

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 then I guess we call you and ask you why you've installed 1 copy of d6
 enterprise on 42 machines :)



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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

Exactly. If you had to install Delphi 6 42 (or even 5) times, without
reinstalling Windows, THEN I wanna know about it. Badly.


That said, Windows XP does have a migration thing in it that allows you to
repear ^H^H^H^H upgrade your machine without losing all your settings.

Hell, is it just me, or does anyone else who's used XP think its a total
waste of time? I have a Celeron 533 with 384meg and its SO DAMN SLOW.
Windows 2000, OTOH, _flys_ on that machine (even running JBuilder :) ) and
its stable as all hell.

So, I'm sticking with windows 2000 and office 2000 until I have to upgrade.
Even the usual free copy of XP (being a beta tester) is unlikly to move me
over.

N

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Subject: Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


Well Mr Borland, its windows you see, and that darn blue screen meant I
had to reinstalled Windows 42 (#*($ times, its only on one machine
*mutter* :P

--On Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:54 AM +1200 Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 then I guess we call you and ask you why you've installed 1 copy of d6
 enterprise on 42 machines :)



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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Peter Harrop

Nic Wise wrote:
 Even the usual free copy of XP (being a beta tester) is unlikly to move me
 over.
 
Nic,
Have you tried any Dos programs on the Beta version of XP. If so, did
you strike any problems ?
Peter (whose work rate over the next year or so depends on this answer).
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

No, I havn't. I have installed the last beta (ie, not RC1) since I talked to
you, so if you have a small-ish app you want testing (that doesn't need
couriering of hardware :) ) I'd be happy to try it. email me off the list -
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Its unlikely to stay around too long tho - my GF wants to learn Linux,
and I should really obligue :)

Nic.

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 Nic Wise wrote:
  Even the usual free copy of XP (being a beta tester) is unlikly to move
me
  over.
 
 Nic,
 Have you tried any Dos programs on the Beta version of XP. If so, did
 you strike any problems ?
 Peter (whose work rate over the next year or so depends on this answer).
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RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-10 Thread James Sugrue

I go mine this morning too!
I tried using the register.borland.com site. Wasn't even finished

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Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 11:08
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Subject: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


Hi  

We have loaded D6 Pro this morning and have been trying to register it. We
are using our Borland Community identity and we are getting a Connection
Failed when the registration is trying to connection to the Registration
Server.

As anyone had this and know how to get around it?   

Thanks 
Eion McIntosh
PPCS Ltd
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RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-10 Thread Eion McIntosh (CHCH)

When I tried to see if I could do the registration online from Borland.com
and product information, it said 

'Delphi 6 Registration - Activated when you install your purchased copy of
Delphi 6'
Eion


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 Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 11:32
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 Subject:  RE: [DUG]:  Delphi 6 Registration
 
 I go mine this morning too!
 I tried using the register.borland.com site. Wasn't even finished
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eion McIntosh (CHCH) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 11:08
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
 Subject: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration
 
 
 Hi
 
 We have loaded D6 Pro this morning and have been trying to register it. We
 are using our Borland Community identity and we are getting a Connection
 Failed when the registration is trying to connection to the Registration
 Server.
 
 As anyone had this and know how to get around it? 
 
 Thanks 
 Eion McIntosh
 PPCS Ltd
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RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-10 Thread Mark Derricutt

What actually is this D6 Registration/Activatation?  Sounds something like 
the hideous Microsoft XP Activation stuff

--On Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:47 AM +1200 Eion McIntosh (CHCH) 
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 'Delphi 6 Registration - Activated when you install your purchased copy of
 Delphi 6'



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