Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Robert Lewis
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 6:15:48 P.M. ADT Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 20:14 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 20:04, Richard Shann 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > Thanks to both of you for your replies
> > > I'm confident it is the same problem: and putting all your
> > > information
> > > together I think the answer will lie in the versions of Gtk in use.
> > > If
> > > you can run the command
> > > 
> > > denemo --version
> > > 
> > > in a terminal for each of your configurations it may shed some
> > > light.
> > > I'm afraid I haven't updated my Debian distro for a good while (I'm
> > > still on Stretch I think) so it is all too possible that libevince
> > > has
> > > altered its behavior.
> > > 
> > > My output is as follows:
> > > 
> > > rshann@debian:~/ denemo --version
> > > GNU Denemo version 2.5.3
> > > Gtk versions runtime: 3.22.11, compiled against: 3.22.11,
> > 
> > This is the output I get:
> > 
> > GNU Denemo version 2.5.3
> > Gtk versions runtime: 3.24.20, compiled against: 3.24.20,
> 
> I've not had any luck trying to find documentation for libevince, but I
> have put in a print out of the link that Denemo is trying to follow as
> received from libevince when you right click on a note in the Print
> View. I've put this into the repository and bumped the development
> version to 2.5.4
> If either of you could by any chance rebuild from current master with
> this version, right click and read the response in the terminal that
> should show where the trouble lies.
> 
> Richard

I'd like to help out, but I've never built software from a master before -- I 
guess it's about time I learned how.  I know I needed the package "make" (and 
installed that), but I'm not sure what other packages I might need.

I got the denemo-master.tar.gz from the repository and extracted it into a 
temp folder.  From the README.md file I did:   $ ./autogen.sh
and got the following error:
 ~/temp/denemo-master$ ./autogen.sh
   ./autogen.sh: 2: aclocal: not found

The folder aclocal is in /usr/share/

What should I do next?

Thanks.

Robert






Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 20:14 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 20:04, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > [...]
> > 
> > Thanks to both of you for your replies
> > I'm confident it is the same problem: and putting all your
> > information
> > together I think the answer will lie in the versions of Gtk in use.
> > If
> > you can run the command
> > 
> > denemo --version
> > 
> > in a terminal for each of your configurations it may shed some
> > light.
> > I'm afraid I haven't updated my Debian distro for a good while (I'm
> > still on Stretch I think) so it is all too possible that libevince
> > has
> > altered its behavior.
> > 
> > My output is as follows:
> > 
> > rshann@debian:~/ denemo --version
> > GNU Denemo version 2.5.3
> > Gtk versions runtime: 3.22.11, compiled against: 3.22.11,
> 
> This is the output I get:
> 
> GNU Denemo version 2.5.3
> Gtk versions runtime: 3.24.20, compiled against: 3.24.20,

I've not had any luck trying to find documentation for libevince, but I
have put in a print out of the link that Denemo is trying to follow as
received from libevince when you right click on a note in the Print
View. I've put this into the repository and bumped the development
version to 2.5.4
If either of you could by any chance rebuild from current master with
this version, right click and read the response in the terminal that
should show where the trouble lies.

Richard





Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Robert Lewis
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 2:04:55 P.M. ADT Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 19:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 18:16, Richard Shann 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 17:02 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 16:31, Richard Shann  > > > com>
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann  > > > > > lus.
> > > > > > com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > > > > > > nn.p
> > > > > > > > lus.
> > > > > > > > com>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual
> > > > > > > > > > > > Annotations,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-
> > > > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Score
> > > > > > > > > > > > size),
> > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-
> > > > > > > > > > > clicked
> > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu
> > > > > > > > > > > whereas
> > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > on an
> > > > > > > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context
> > > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0
> > > > > > > > > > (Andreas
> > > > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Debian
> > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas
> > > > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > > > packages.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you
> > > > > > > > > > described,
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > the only
> > > > > > > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an
> > > > > > > > > > object.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when
> > > > > > > > > > left-
> > > > > > > > > > clicking on
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > note.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object
> > > > > > > > > > > (blue
> > > > > > > > > > > square on
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the
> > > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away,
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > available.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > > > > 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Lib Lists
On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 20:04, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 19:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 18:16, Richard Shann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 17:02 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 16:31, Richard Shann  > > > com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann  > > > > > lus.
> > > > > > com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > > > > > > nn.p
> > > > > > > > lus.
> > > > > > > > com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual
> > > > > > > > > > > > Annotations,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-
> > > > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Score
> > > > > > > > > > > > size),
> > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-
> > > > > > > > > > > clicked
> > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu
> > > > > > > > > > > whereas
> > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > on an
> > > > > > > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context
> > > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0
> > > > > > > > > > (Andreas
> > > > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Debian
> > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas
> > > > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > > > packages.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you
> > > > > > > > > > described,
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > the only
> > > > > > > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an
> > > > > > > > > > object.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when
> > > > > > > > > > left-
> > > > > > > > > > clicking on
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > note.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object
> > > > > > > > > > > (blue
> > > > > > > > > > > square on
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the
> > > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away,
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > available.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 19:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 18:16, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 17:02 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 16:31, Richard Shann  > > com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann  > > > > lus.
> > > > > com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > > > > > nn.p
> > > > > > > lus.
> > > > > > > com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual
> > > > > > > > > > > Annotations,
> > > > > > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-
> > > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses,
> > > > > > > > > > > Score
> > > > > > > > > > > size),
> > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-
> > > > > > > > > > clicked
> > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu
> > > > > > > > > > whereas
> > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > on an
> > > > > > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0
> > > > > > > > > (Andreas
> > > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Debian
> > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas
> > > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > > packages.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you
> > > > > > > > > described,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > the only
> > > > > > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an
> > > > > > > > > object.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when
> > > > > > > > > left-
> > > > > > > > > clicking on
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > note.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object
> > > > > > > > > > (blue
> > > > > > > > > > square on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the
> > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away,
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context
> > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > available.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian
> > > > > > > > > Stretch,
> > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > only with
> > > > > > > > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Lib Lists
On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 18:16, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 17:02 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 16:31, Richard Shann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann  > > > com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > > > > lus.
> > > > > > com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual
> > > > > > > > > > Annotations,
> > > > > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-
> > > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score
> > > > > > > > > > size),
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked
> > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the
> > > > > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > on an
> > > > > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context
> > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Debian
> > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's
> > > > > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > > packages.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > the only
> > > > > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-
> > > > > > > > clicking on
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > note.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object
> > > > > > > > > (blue
> > > > > > > > > square on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context
> > > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you
> > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context
> > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > available.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian
> > > > > > > > Stretch,
> > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > only with
> > > > > > > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > note
> > > > > > > in the Print View?
> > > > > > > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting
> > > > > > > Scheme:
> > > > > > > ...)
> > > > > > > appear?
> > > > > > > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting
> > > > > > > textedit://
> > > > > > > ...)
> > > > > > > appear? (see attached)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Robert Lewis
Hello Richard -

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 5:36:34 A.M. ADT Richard Shann wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > Hello Richard -
> > 
> > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > Hello - 
> > > > 
> > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > 
> > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > Dynamics,
> > > > Rehearsal 
> > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click gives me
> > > > the
> > > > context 
> > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size), but
> > > > there
> > > > are no 
> > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > 
> > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on. Right-
> > > click
> > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the (Help for
> > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if you are
> > > on an
> > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive menu for
> > > tweaking.
> > 
> > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas Schneider's
> > .deb 
> > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the Debian
> > repository 
> > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's Bullseye
> > .deb 
> > packages.
> > 
> > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but that is
> > the only 
> > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get the
> > context 
> > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > 
> > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-clicking on a
> > note.
> > 
> > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue square on
> > > the
> > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context sensitive
> > > menu,
> > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can play from
> > > that
> > > menu anyway.
> > 
> > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive menu is
> > not 
> > available.  
> > 
> > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > 
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > 
> > > so, right not left click.
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > 
> > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch, it's
> > only with 
> > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > 
> > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> 
> The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from the
> note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> 
> 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on a note
> in the Print View?
> 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme: ...)
> appear?
> 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit:// ...)
> appear? (see attached)
> 
> what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window execute
> 
> (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> 
> to get that.
> 
> If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> specified in the link and look at the line and column number indicated
> to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if you
> don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
> 
> HTH
> 
> Richard
> BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those searching
> the mailing list archives can follow the thread.

Sorry for not doing a Reply to All in my previous post.

To answer your questions:

1.A. Debian Bullseye, Denemo v. 2.5.0
 A left-click give no reply
 A right-click gives the same menu when right-clicking anywhere
  (Help for Tweaks, etc)
1.B. Debian Buster, Denemo v. 2.5.3
 A left-click starts the playback, as intended

2.A. Debian Bullseye, Denemo v. 2.5.0
 The link does not appear
2.B. Debian Buster, Denemo v. 2.5.3
 The link does appear

3.A. Debian Bullseye, Denemo v. 2.5.0
 The link does not appear
3.B. Debian Buster, Denemo v. 2.5.3
 The link does appear

Debian Bullseye uses LilyPond v. 2.22
Debian Buster uses LilyPond v. 2.18

I'm attaching the two .ly files from the /tmp folder:
 for Bullseye:  denemo250printA.ly
 for Buster:  denemo253printA.ly

I've also attached the .denemo file I created in Bullseye.  I hope these files 
will help.


Robert
%% LilyPond file generated by Denemo version 2.5.0

%%http://www.gnu.org/software/denemo/

\version "2.22"

CompactChordSymbols = {}
#(define DenemoTransposeStep 0)
#(define DenemoTransposeAccidental 0)
DenemoGlobalTranspose = \void {}
titledPiece = {}
AutoBarline = {}
AutoEndMovementBarline = \bar "|."

% The music follows

MvmntIVoiceI = {
 \tempo Andante  \set Score.skipBars = ##t R1*4/4*3 %{ grouped rest %} %{ grouped rest %} \bar "||" \time 2/4  R1*2/4\AutoBarline
%5
<> ^\markup \bold {"Tempo I" } \set Score.skipBars = ##t R1*2/4*5 %{ grouped rest %} %{ grouped rest %} %{ grouped rest %} %{ grouped rest %}%10
 R1*2/4 \bar "||" \time 4/4  c1-\fermata \bar "||" 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 17:02 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 16:31, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann  > > com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > > > lus.
> > > > > com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual
> > > > > > > > > Annotations,
> > > > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-
> > > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score
> > > > > > > > > size),
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked 
> > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the
> > > > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > on an
> > > > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context
> > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Debian
> > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's
> > > > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > > packages.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > the only
> > > > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-
> > > > > > > clicking on
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > note.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object
> > > > > > > > (blue
> > > > > > > > square on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context
> > > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context
> > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > available.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian
> > > > > > > Stretch,
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > only with
> > > > > > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > note
> > > > > > in the Print View?
> > > > > > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting
> > > > > > Scheme:
> > > > > > ...)
> > > > > > appear?
> > > > > > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting
> > > > > > textedit://
> > > > > > ...)
> > > > > > appear? (see attached)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme
> > > > > > window
> > > > > > execute
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > to get that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp
> > > > > > that is
> > > > > > specified in the link and 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Lib Lists
On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 16:31, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > > com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click
> > > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size),
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on.
> > > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the
> > > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > on an
> > > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive
> > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the
> > > > > > Debian
> > > > > > repository
> > > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's
> > > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > > .deb
> > > > > > packages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > the only
> > > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > context
> > > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-
> > > > > > clicking on
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > note.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue
> > > > > > > square on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context
> > > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can
> > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive
> > > > > > menu
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Richard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch,
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > only with
> > > > > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > > > >
> > > > > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from
> > > > > the
> > > > > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on
> > > > > a
> > > > > note
> > > > > in the Print View?
> > > > > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme:
> > > > > ...)
> > > > > appear?
> > > > > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit://
> > > > > ...)
> > > > > appear? (see attached)
> > > > >
> > > > > what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window
> > > > > execute
> > > > >
> > > > > (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> > > > >
> > > > > to get that.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> > > > > specified in the link and look at the line and column number
> > > > > indicated
> > > > > to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if
> > > > > you
> > > > > don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those
> > > > > searching
> > > > > the mailing list archives can follow the thread.
> > > >
> > > > Hello, I think I have the same problem in Denemo 2.5.3 installed
> > > > from
> > > > source using Lilypond 2.22. I'm using it on Lubuntu 20.04 running
> > > > in
> > > > VirtualBox on a Mac.
> > > > If it helps, here's my results.
> > 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 15:07 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  > > com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > Hello Richard -
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click
> > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > context
> > > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size),
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > are no
> > > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on.
> > > > > > Right-
> > > > > > click
> > > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the
> > > > > > (Help
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > on an
> > > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive
> > > > > > menu
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > tweaking.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > > > Schneider's
> > > > > .deb
> > > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the
> > > > > Debian
> > > > > repository
> > > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's
> > > > > Bullseye
> > > > > .deb
> > > > > packages.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but
> > > > > that
> > > > > is
> > > > > the only
> > > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get
> > > > > the
> > > > > context
> > > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-
> > > > > clicking on
> > > > > a
> > > > > note.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue
> > > > > > square on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context
> > > > > > sensitive
> > > > > > menu,
> > > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can
> > > > > > play
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > menu anyway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive
> > > > > menu
> > > > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > available.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > 
> > > > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch,
> > > > > it's
> > > > > only with
> > > > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > > > 
> > > > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from
> > > > the
> > > > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > > > 
> > > > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on
> > > > a
> > > > note
> > > > in the Print View?
> > > > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme:
> > > > ...)
> > > > appear?
> > > > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit://
> > > > ...)
> > > > appear? (see attached)
> > > > 
> > > > what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window
> > > > execute
> > > > 
> > > > (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> > > > 
> > > > to get that.
> > > > 
> > > > If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> > > > specified in the link and look at the line and column number
> > > > indicated
> > > > to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if
> > > > you
> > > > don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
> > > > 
> > > > HTH
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those
> > > > searching
> > > > the mailing list archives can follow the thread.
> > > 
> > > Hello, I think I have the same problem in Denemo 2.5.3 installed
> > > from
> > > source using Lilypond 2.22. I'm using it on Lubuntu 20.04 running
> > > in
> > > VirtualBox on a Mac.
> > > If it helps, here's my results.
> > > 1) No output, but after adding any note in Denemo, the terminal
> > > shows
> > > 'Denemo - WARNING : Lilypond did not end successfully: Child
> > > process
> > > exited with code 1
> > > Running lilypondLog level set to 287'. The Print View updates
> > > correctly.
> > > 2. Yes, the link appears.
> > > 3. Yes, I got a 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Lib Lists
On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 14:42, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > Hello Richard -
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > Hello -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click gives
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > context
> > > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size), but
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > are no
> > > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > >
> > > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on.
> > > > > Right-
> > > > > click
> > > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the (Help
> > > > > for
> > > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if you
> > > > > are
> > > > > on an
> > > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive menu
> > > > > for
> > > > > tweaking.
> > > >
> > > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > > Schneider's
> > > > .deb
> > > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the
> > > > Debian
> > > > repository
> > > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's Bullseye
> > > > .deb
> > > > packages.
> > > >
> > > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but that
> > > > is
> > > > the only
> > > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get the
> > > > context
> > > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > >
> > > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-clicking on
> > > > a
> > > > note.
> > > > >
> > > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue
> > > > > square on
> > > > > the
> > > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context sensitive
> > > > > menu,
> > > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can play
> > > > > from
> > > > > that
> > > > > menu anyway.
> > > >
> > > > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive menu
> > > > is
> > > > not
> > > > available.
> > > > >
> > > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch, it's
> > > > only with
> > > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > >
> > > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > >
> > > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from the
> > > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > >
> > > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on a
> > > note
> > > in the Print View?
> > > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme: ...)
> > > appear?
> > > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit://
> > > ...)
> > > appear? (see attached)
> > >
> > > what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window
> > > execute
> > >
> > > (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> > >
> > > to get that.
> > >
> > > If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> > > specified in the link and look at the line and column number
> > > indicated
> > > to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if you
> > > don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those
> > > searching
> > > the mailing list archives can follow the thread.
> >
> > Hello, I think I have the same problem in Denemo 2.5.3 installed from
> > source using Lilypond 2.22. I'm using it on Lubuntu 20.04 running in
> > VirtualBox on a Mac.
> > If it helps, here's my results.
> > 1) No output, but after adding any note in Denemo, the terminal shows
> > 'Denemo - WARNING : Lilypond did not end successfully: Child process
> > exited with code 1
> > Running lilypondLog level set to 287'. The Print View updates
> > correctly.
> > 2. Yes, the link appears.
> > 3. Yes, I got a link.
> > 4. In the Denemo print view
>
> ??? did you mean in the View->LilyPond view?

No, I meant the position number Denemo print view's link  vs. the
position number that I got by opening the .ly file in the /tmp folder
(opened with Frescobaldi).

>
> >  my first note is at position 10, while
> > when I open the Lilypond file the first note is at position 0, i.e.
> > 21:9:10 in Denemo vs. 21:9:0 in the Lilypond file.
> Thanks for this - could you post the lilypond file? (A file  created
> with
>
> (d-New)
> (d-C)
>
> would be ideal).

See attached the 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sat, 2021-10-23 at 13:45 +0300, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann 
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > Hello Richard -
> > > 
> > > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > > Hello -
> > > > > 
> > > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > > > 
> > > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > > Dynamics,
> > > > > Rehearsal
> > > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click gives
> > > > > me
> > > > > the
> > > > > context
> > > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size), but
> > > > > there
> > > > > are no
> > > > > prompts when I left-click
> > > > 
> > > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on.
> > > > Right-
> > > > click
> > > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the (Help
> > > > for
> > > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if you
> > > > are
> > > > on an
> > > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive menu
> > > > for
> > > > tweaking.
> > > 
> > > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas
> > > Schneider's
> > > .deb
> > > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the
> > > Debian
> > > repository
> > > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's Bullseye
> > > .deb
> > > packages.
> > > 
> > > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but that
> > > is
> > > the only
> > > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get the
> > > context
> > > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> > > 
> > > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-clicking on
> > > a
> > > note.
> > > > 
> > > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue
> > > > square on
> > > > the
> > > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context sensitive
> > > > menu,
> > > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can play
> > > > from
> > > > that
> > > > menu anyway.
> > > 
> > > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive menu
> > > is
> > > not
> > > available.
> > > > 
> > > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > so, right not left click.
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > 
> > > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch, it's
> > > only with
> > > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> > > 
> > > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> > 
> > The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from the
> > note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
> > 
> > 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on a
> > note
> > in the Print View?
> > 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme: ...)
> > appear?
> > 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit://
> > ...)
> > appear? (see attached)
> > 
> > what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window
> > execute
> > 
> > (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
> > 
> > to get that.
> > 
> > If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> > specified in the link and look at the line and column number
> > indicated
> > to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if you
> > don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Richard
> > BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those
> > searching
> > the mailing list archives can follow the thread.
> 
> Hello, I think I have the same problem in Denemo 2.5.3 installed from
> source using Lilypond 2.22. I'm using it on Lubuntu 20.04 running in
> VirtualBox on a Mac.
> If it helps, here's my results.
> 1) No output, but after adding any note in Denemo, the terminal shows
> 'Denemo - WARNING : Lilypond did not end successfully: Child process
> exited with code 1
> Running lilypondLog level set to 287'. The Print View updates
> correctly.
> 2. Yes, the link appears.
> 3. Yes, I got a link.
> 4. In the Denemo print view

??? did you mean in the View->LilyPond view?

>  my first note is at position 10, while
> when I open the Lilypond file the first note is at position 0, i.e.
> 21:9:10 in Denemo vs. 21:9:0 in the Lilypond file.
Thanks for this - could you post the lilypond file? (A file  created
with

(d-New)
(d-C)

would be ideal).

If I copy and paste the relevant bit of the LilyPond view I get this:

MvmntIVoiceI = {
 c'4 \AutoEndMovementBarline
}

where you see 9 spaces appear before the note name c'4
One of these is actually a special character - an anchor - that appears
in the LilyPond view as a gray square, the other 8 are inserted by
Denemo at the start of each measure. This code is unconditional, so
there should be no way(*) that the first note name in a bar could
appear in column 0. (TAB characters are 

Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Lib Lists
On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 11:37, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > Hello Richard -
> >
> > On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > > Hello -
> > > >
> > > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > >
> > > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > > Dynamics,
> > > > Rehearsal
> > > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click gives me
> > > > the
> > > > context
> > > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size), but
> > > > there
> > > > are no
> > > > prompts when I left-click
> > >
> > > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on. Right-
> > > click
> > > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the (Help for
> > > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if you are
> > > on an
> > > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive menu for
> > > tweaking.
> >
> > That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas Schneider's
> > .deb
> > packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the Debian
> > repository
> > for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's Bullseye
> > .deb
> > packages.
> >
> > Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but that is
> > the only
> > menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get the
> > context
> > sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> >
> > Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-clicking on a
> > note.
> > >
> > > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue square on
> > > the
> > > object) then left-clicking will give you the context sensitive
> > > menu,
> > > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can play from
> > > that
> > > menu anyway.
> >
> > The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive menu is
> > not
> > available.
> > >
> > > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > so, right not left click.
> > >
> > > Richard
> >
> > Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch, it's
> > only with
> > .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> >
> > Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>
> The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from the
> note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.
>
> 1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on a note
> in the Print View?
> 2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme: ...)
> appear?
> 3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit:// ...)
> appear? (see attached)
>
> what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window execute
>
> (d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))
>
> to get that.
>
> If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
> specified in the link and look at the line and column number indicated
> to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if you
> don't read LilyPond syntax at all).
>
> HTH
>
> Richard
> BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those searching
> the mailing list archives can follow the thread.

Hello, I think I have the same problem in Denemo 2.5.3 installed from
source using Lilypond 2.22. I'm using it on Lubuntu 20.04 running in
VirtualBox on a Mac.
If it helps, here's my results.
1) No output, but after adding any note in Denemo, the terminal shows
'Denemo - WARNING : Lilypond did not end successfully: Child process
exited with code 1
Running lilypondLog level set to 287'. The Print View updates correctly.
2. Yes, the link appears.
3. Yes, I got a link.
4. In the Denemo print view my first note is at position 10, while
when I open the Lilypond file the first note is at position 0, i.e.
21:9:10 in Denemo vs. 21:9:0 in the Lilypond file.
Cheers,
Lib



Re: Can not tweak objects in Debian's Version 2.5.0

2021-10-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 15:44 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> Hello Richard -
> 
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 5:39:06 A.M. ADT you wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:47 -0300, Robert Lewis wrote:
> > > Hello - 
> > > 
> > > OS:  Linux; Debian Bullseye
> > > Denemo Version:  2.5.0 from the Debian repository
> > > 
> > > In this version I am unable to tweak Textual Annotations,
> > > Dynamics,
> > > Rehearsal 
> > > Numbers, etc. in the Print View window.  A right-click gives me
> > > the
> > > context 
> > > menu (Help for Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size), but
> > > there
> > > are no 
> > > prompts when I left-click
> > 
> > left-click starts playback from the object left-clicked on. Right-
> > click
> > gives you a menu - if you are off any object it is the (Help for
> > Tweaks, Red dots and crosses, Score size) menu whereas if you are
> > on an
> > object (hand pointer) it gives you the context sensitive menu for
> > tweaking.
> 
> That is what happened when I was using v. 2.4.0 (Andreas Schneider's
> .deb 
> packages) in Debian Stretch, but not with v. 2.5.0 from the Debian
> repository 
> for Bullseye, nor with v. 2.4.3 from Andreas Schneider's Bullseye
> .deb 
> packages.
> 
> Right-clicking does give me the the menu you described, but that is
> the only 
> menu I get when clicking on or off an object.  I do not get the
> context 
> sensitive menu for tweaking when I right-click an object.
> 
> Also, playing straight away does not happen when left-clicking on a
> note.
> > 
> > Incidentally, if you have already clicked an object (blue square on
> > the
> > object) then left-clicking will give you the context sensitive
> > menu,
> > rather than just starting playing straight away, you can play from
> > that
> > menu anyway.
> 
> The blue square does not appear, and the context sensitive menu is
> not 
> available.  
> > 
> > >  on the object when the hand pointer appears.
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions?
> > 
> > so, right not left click.
> > 
> > Richard
> 
> Everything works as expected in v. 2.4.0 on  Debian Stretch, it's
> only with 
> .deb packages for Bullseye that I have this problem.
> 
> Any other suggestions or recommendations?

The symptoms you are describing indicate that working back from the
note in the pdf to the Denemo Display is not working.

1) What is the output on the terminal when you try to click on a note
in the Print View? 
2) When you hover over a title does a link (starting Scheme: ...)
appear?
3) When you hover over a note does a link (starting textedit:// ...)
appear? (see attached)

what version of LilyPond are you using? (In the Scheme window execute

(d-InfoDialog (d-GetLilyVersion))

to get that.

If the link appears in (3) above, open the file in /tmp that is
specified in the link and look at the line and column number indicated
to see if it is the right place (send the file and link text if you
don't read LilyPond syntax at all).

HTH

Richard
BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those searching
the mailing list archives can follow the thread.