Re: Custom Titles
On Mon, 2023-01-02 at 17:36 +, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
> Thanks,
> I've been looking at lilypond markup for text and find it difficult
> to determine which bits are already included in Multi-Line Text.
> It looks as if the \markup { ... ]
yes, looking in the LilyPond View you can see that the Multi-Line text
editor wraps everything you type with
^\markup\scale #'(1 . 1)\column{
and }
after replacing any paragraph markers with \line{} wrappers.
The scaling is doing nothing, of course; I'm not quite sure what the
motivation for wrapping everything in \column is ...
> is already there; certainly \markup seems to produce an error when
> Typesetting, though not necessarily in the Preview
> For example (and I was playing with the poetry to see what
> happened)
> what is below in red causes no issue in the Preview but a
> Typesetting error
I just pasted your red text into a Multi-line and got the attached
which typesets alright for me.
No sure what you have - you could post the LilyPond emitted which
should be more explanatory.
Richard
> Best wishes
> Joe
>
> \bold {\“Sehnlich wenden wir uns, von Tag Ermüdete,}
> ¶
> \bold {der ambrosischen Nacht deine Gesänge zu,}
>
> ¶\bold {deren wehender Fittich}
>
> ¶\bold {uns beschattet mit goldenem Traum.\”} \italic { from: Ode an
> Holderlin}
>
> ¶
> ¶We turn passionately, exhausted by day,
>
> ¶to the ambrosia, the night of your music,
>
> ¶whose fanning wing casts us into
>
> ¶a Shadow of a Golden Dream
>
>
>
>
> On 02/01/2023 16:48, Richard Shann wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-01-02 at 12:28 +, Richard Shann wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2023-01-01 at 18:21 +, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Richard,
> > > All the music systems are now in order. Thanks.
> > >
> > > The Score I am transposing has some poetry associated with each
> > > movement, and I thought it might be good to include it on a page
> > > between
> > > the Titles and the First Movement.
> > I think the only thing Denemo provides is the ability to include
> > title
> > page(s) generated externally as an eps file. So you would create
> > everything you wanted using an external editor and write it out as
> > an
> > eps file and then include it using:
> >
> > Command: Prepend Encapsulated Postscript
> > Places text/graphics from an encapsulated postscript file at the
> > start
> > of the current movement.
> > Use this for columns of text or images, fancy titles etc. prepared
> > in
> > other programs
> > which are to appear before the music.
> > Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles
> > Internal Name: PrependPostscript
> >
> > But I see that there is a command to place LilyPond markup after a
> > movement so I've tweaked that to place the markup before the
> > movement
> > -
> > this is in the sources now and will be built overnight:
> >
> > Command: Text Before Movement
> > Places (formatted) text before the music of the current movement.
> > Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles
> > Internal Name: MarkupAtStart
> >
> > If you use Score titles for the titles then the markup you give
> > will
> > come after them (but before any Movement titles you set).
> Using this to get exactly what you want will be easier if you have
> read
> up the LilyPond markup commands and have the patience to fiddle with
> them. I've just come up with an example of placing some justified
> text
> centered beneath the title - attached here. But until you have the
> command installed you can't edit this easily...
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> > HTH
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > > I tried Custom Titles, hoping to put the verses in the centre
> > > column,
> > > and have hit some snags.
> > >
> > > 1 Once I have created a line, trying to edit it can only be done
> > > by
> > > re-entering the data.
> > > 2 There doesn't seem to be a way to delete a line, once entered.
> > > 3 I need a way of putting several lines in one block - though the
> > > text
> > > display shows four lines if i use SHIFT-ENTER it is all in a wide
> > > single
> > > line on the page.
> > >
> > > It isn't important: I can Start Again from the a file with just
> > > music
> > > and add Titles and forget the poetry.
> > > But it would be nice. Even better if the lines could be edited
> > > from
> > > the
> > > Typesetter screen
> > >
> > > Best wishes and a Happy New Year.
> > >
> > > Joe
> >
> >
>
>
MultiLine.denemo
Description: application/wine-extension-denemo
Re: Custom Titles
Thanks,
I've been looking at lilypond markup for text and find it difficult to
determine which bits are already included in Multi-Line Text.
It looks as if the \markup { ... ]
is already there; certainly \markup seems to produce an error when
Typesetting, though not necessarily in the Preview
For example (and I was playing with the poetry to see what happened)
what is below in red causes no issue in the Preview but a Typesetting error
Best wishes
Joe
\bold {\“Sehnlich wenden wir uns, von Tag Ermüdete,}
¶
\bold {der ambrosischen Nacht deine Gesänge zu,}
¶\bold {deren wehender Fittich}
¶\bold {uns beschattet mit goldenem Traum.\”} \italic { from: Ode an
Holderlin}
¶
¶We turn passionately, exhausted by day,
¶to the ambrosia, the night of your music,
¶whose fanning wing casts us into
¶a Shadow of a Golden Dream
On 02/01/2023 16:48, Richard Shann wrote:
On Mon, 2023-01-02 at 12:28 +, Richard Shann wrote:
On Sun, 2023-01-01 at 18:21 +, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
Hi Richard,
All the music systems are now in order. Thanks.
The Score I am transposing has some poetry associated with each
movement, and I thought it might be good to include it on a page
between
the Titles and the First Movement.
I think the only thing Denemo provides is the ability to include
title
page(s) generated externally as an eps file. So you would create
everything you wanted using an external editor and write it out as an
eps file and then include it using:
Command: Prepend Encapsulated Postscript
Places text/graphics from an encapsulated postscript file at the
start
of the current movement.
Use this for columns of text or images, fancy titles etc. prepared in
other programs
which are to appear before the music.
Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles
Internal Name: PrependPostscript
But I see that there is a command to place LilyPond markup after a
movement so I've tweaked that to place the markup before the movement
-
this is in the sources now and will be built overnight:
Command: Text Before Movement
Places (formatted) text before the music of the current movement.
Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles
Internal Name: MarkupAtStart
If you use Score titles for the titles then the markup you give will
come after them (but before any Movement titles you set).
Using this to get exactly what you want will be easier if you have read
up the LilyPond markup commands and have the patience to fiddle with
them. I've just come up with an example of placing some justified text
centered beneath the title - attached here. But until you have the
command installed you can't edit this easily...
Richard
HTH
Richard
I tried Custom Titles, hoping to put the verses in the centre
column,
and have hit some snags.
1 Once I have created a line, trying to edit it can only be done by
re-entering the data.
2 There doesn't seem to be a way to delete a line, once entered.
3 I need a way of putting several lines in one block - though the
text
display shows four lines if i use SHIFT-ENTER it is all in a wide
single
line on the page.
It isn't important: I can Start Again from the a file with just
music
and add Titles and forget the poetry.
But it would be nice. Even better if the lines could be edited from
the
Typesetter screen
Best wishes and a Happy New Year.
Joe
Re: Custom Titles
On Mon, 2023-01-02 at 12:28 +, Richard Shann wrote: > On Sun, 2023-01-01 at 18:21 +, Joe Wilkinson wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > All the music systems are now in order. Thanks. > > > > The Score I am transposing has some poetry associated with each > > movement, and I thought it might be good to include it on a page > > between > > the Titles and the First Movement. > > I think the only thing Denemo provides is the ability to include > title > page(s) generated externally as an eps file. So you would create > everything you wanted using an external editor and write it out as an > eps file and then include it using: > > Command: Prepend Encapsulated Postscript > Places text/graphics from an encapsulated postscript file at the > start > of the current movement. > Use this for columns of text or images, fancy titles etc. prepared in > other programs > which are to appear before the music. > Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles > Internal Name: PrependPostscript > > But I see that there is a command to place LilyPond markup after a > movement so I've tweaked that to place the markup before the movement > - > this is in the sources now and will be built overnight: > > Command: Text Before Movement > Places (formatted) text before the music of the current movement. > Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles > Internal Name: MarkupAtStart > > If you use Score titles for the titles then the markup you give will > come after them (but before any Movement titles you set). Using this to get exactly what you want will be easier if you have read up the LilyPond markup commands and have the patience to fiddle with them. I've just come up with an example of placing some justified text centered beneath the title - attached here. But until you have the command installed you can't edit this easily... Richard > > HTH > > Richard > > > I tried Custom Titles, hoping to put the verses in the centre > > column, > > and have hit some snags. > > > > 1 Once I have created a line, trying to edit it can only be done by > > re-entering the data. > > 2 There doesn't seem to be a way to delete a line, once entered. > > 3 I need a way of putting several lines in one block - though the > > text > > display shows four lines if i use SHIFT-ENTER it is all in a wide > > single > > line on the page. > > > > It isn't important: I can Start Again from the a file with just > > music > > and add Titles and forget the poetry. > > But it would be nice. Even better if the lines could be edited from > > the > > Typesetter screen > > > > Best wishes and a Happy New Year. > > > > Joe > > > textBeforeMovement.denemo Description: application/wine-extension-denemo
Re: Custom Titles
On Sun, 2023-01-01 at 18:21 +, Joe Wilkinson wrote: > Hi Richard, > All the music systems are now in order. Thanks. > > The Score I am transposing has some poetry associated with each > movement, and I thought it might be good to include it on a page > between > the Titles and the First Movement. I think the only thing Denemo provides is the ability to include title page(s) generated externally as an eps file. So you would create everything you wanted using an external editor and write it out as an eps file and then include it using: Command: Prepend Encapsulated Postscript Places text/graphics from an encapsulated postscript file at the start of the current movement. Use this for columns of text or images, fancy titles etc. prepared in other programs which are to appear before the music. Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles Internal Name: PrependPostscript But I see that there is a command to place LilyPond markup after a movement so I've tweaked that to place the markup before the movement - this is in the sources now and will be built overnight: Command: Text Before Movement Places (formatted) text before the music of the current movement. Location: Object Menu ▶ Movements ▶ Titles Internal Name: MarkupAtStart If you use Score titles for the titles then the markup you give will come after them (but before any Movement titles you set). HTH Richard > I tried Custom Titles, hoping to put the verses in the centre column, > and have hit some snags. > > 1 Once I have created a line, trying to edit it can only be done by > re-entering the data. > 2 There doesn't seem to be a way to delete a line, once entered. > 3 I need a way of putting several lines in one block - though the > text > display shows four lines if i use SHIFT-ENTER it is all in a wide > single > line on the page. > > It isn't important: I can Start Again from the a file with just music > and add Titles and forget the poetry. > But it would be nice. Even better if the lines could be edited from > the > Typesetter screen > > Best wishes and a Happy New Year. > > Joe
