Re: Unmeasured staffs are confusing

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2022-12-13 at 15:44 +, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
>  Further to this:
>  I can do it if I start with Cadenza time, when no time Sig appears
> at the beginning.
>  I can then add bars of indeterminate length with inserted bar-lines
> between. After the last I can end Cadenza time when I get the chance
> to inset a time-signature
>  BUT then it seems to imply that I have only the choice of Hiding the
> new time signature
>  
>  I accepted  one of then. then edited the Directive to get rid of the
> Hide part. But it is confusing.

Yes, I don't know why the End Cadenza time doesn't give you the option
not to hide the time signature (though I suppose what I had in mind is
literally a cadenza when the normal thing would be to revert to the
time signature before the cadenza but not show it).
Worth a bug report I'd say :)
Richard



>  Best wishes
>  Joe
>  
> On 13/12/2022 15:29, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
>  
> >   Hi Richard,
> >  I'm trying to typeset a Mandolin Orchestra piece with 8 staves
> > where the first movement has
> >  3 opening bars unmeasured - timed at 10 s
> >  60 bars at 6/8
> >  7 Unmeasured staffs.
> >  
> >  I assumed, wrongly it seemed, that what I should do, in the top
> > "Marks Staff" is to start off with an Time Signature >> Unmeasured
> > Staffs(on/off), insert barlines where specified, after the last
> > inserted barline use Time Signature >> Unmeasured Staffs(on/off)
> > again, then set the time signature for the following bars.
> >  It did not work.
> >  So, to try an example I repeated the process in a new file on a
> > single music staff.
> >  Unmeasured to start, then some arbitrary musac for 3 bars,
> > inserted barlines. After the third barline Time SIg change to 6/8
> > and some notes (which were split correctly in the editor into 2
> > bars of 6/8)  
> >  
> >  
> >  The typeset music was as below; the 6/8 in the fourth bar was not
> > recognised in Typeset.
> >  
> >  Perhaps I have misunderstood; I looked in the Manual, but didn't
> > find any help with Unmeasured staffs.
> >  Should I be using Cadenza time instead?
> >  best wishes
> >  Joe
> >  
>  
>  

Re: Unmeasured staffs are confusing

[Joe Wilkinson]

Further to this:
I can do it if I start with Cadenza time, when no time Sig appears at 
the beginning.
I can then add bars of indeterminate length with inserted bar-lines 
between. After the last I can end Cadenza time when I get the chance to 
inset a time-signature
BUT then it seems to imply that I have only the choice of Hiding the new 
time signature


I accepted  one of then. then edited the Directive to get rid of the 
Hide part. But it is confusing.

Best wishes
Joe

On 13/12/2022 15:29, Joe Wilkinson wrote:

Hi Richard,
I'm trying to typeset a Mandolin Orchestra piece with 8 staves where 
the first movement has

3 opening bars unmeasured - timed at 10 s
60 bars at 6/8
7 Unmeasured staffs.

I assumed, wrongly it seemed, that what I should do, in the top "Marks 
Staff" is to start off with an Time Signature >> Unmeasured 
Staffs(on/off), insert barlines where specified, after the last 
inserted barline use Time Signature >> Unmeasured Staffs(on/off) 
again, then set the time signature for the following bars.

It did not work.
So, to try an example I repeated the process in a new file on a single 
music staff.
Unmeasured to start, then some arbitrary musac for 3 bars, inserted 
barlines. After the third barline Time SIg change to 6/8 and some 
notes (which were split correctly in the editor into 2 bars of 6/8)



The typeset music was as below; the 6/8 in the fourth bar was not 
recognised in Typeset.


Perhaps I have misunderstood; I looked in the Manual, but didn't find 
any help with Unmeasured staffs.

Should I be using Cadenza time instead?
best wishes
Joe