[libreoffice-design] Sorry Iv been away
Hello Sorry for not being in the discussions for some time. im trying to keep up with my emails inbox and Im so confused. people keep submitting their concepts for icons but do not link to their location. where can I find these icons you guys are talking about. I would like to help out with this prosses but have no idea where to find them. cheers Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: Towards useful icon themes
Hi Stefan, I wrote that there is no icon in the error message (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46777) and suggest solutions. I can not agree with you to create icons 24*24 px: - Small in themes Tango and Industrial - 22*22 px, has a transparent frame in a one px, which increases the size of icons to 24*24 px; - Themes Crystal and Oxygen (KDE) use size 22*22 px. Please look at investing in an error - all icons LibreOffice MIME-type (22*22) are inside the archive. Regards, Serg ape. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Towards-useful-icon-themes-tp3771347p3787955.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Revising the icon design process
Hi Mirek I agree thi sa good design process that must be tried. Then about the choice of align left / center / right, I'm not sure. We should begin with icons for the read only application (as LibreOffice for Android will begin as a simple reader before extending its functions), so icons like save, maybe export as PDF, send by e-mail... For next week maybe ? Kevin 2012/2/29 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com Hi everyone, I'd like to rethink the whole icon design process. Based on the last few days, I feel that a lot of icon proposals were drafted cursorily, without really giving thought to their function, to our current icons, to relevant art from other applications, or to Android icons. I also feel like our discussions could be more productive, delving deeper to find and fix the smallest issues. So I'm proposing an entirely new design process, focused on a single topic each week. This week's topic are *Align left*, *Align right*, and *Align center *icons, which should be relatively easy to design. The deadline for submitting drafts is this Saturday (wherever you happen to be, don't worry about the time zone). You're also welcome to add links to images of prior art if a certain alignment icon caught your eye. (All the submitted icon drafts so far are still up on the wiki and we'll bring them up again.) We'll then analyze the rough drafts and work on the final icons. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Better branding (was: Re: Towards useful icon themes)
Hi all, Ape wrote: I wrote that there is no icon in the error message (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46777) and suggest solutions. I took a look at the bug you link to and the screenshot you provide of your icons (sadly, I can't open most of them in EOG). So, first: thanks for working on our branding! Here are some comments regarding your bug report, A.1 Chart is a module that can be used from within any of the main LibO applications (except Base). There is no way to save (currently) to save a chart as an independent file (you can save as a PDF or an image, but then you lose lots of information). IMHO, the current icon doesn't need to be changed, because it's only an application icon so far, not an actual MIME type icon. A.2 I guess you're right, master document are always be opened by Writer, so I tend to agree with the choice of a blue document border. (Is there something I am overlooking?) A.3 This one's tricky, because we're using the same icons for the individual applications and for MIME types associated with them. I believe the long-term strategy is to de-emphasise the applications and focus more on documents (hence, The Document Foundation). If this icon were used only for Writer/Web, then yes, it should have a blue border. But most LibO apps can save to HTML and I believe we might need this icon mostly as an MIME type. Hence, having different icons for Writer/Web and for HTML might be a good idea for the future. For now, I have to disagree with you. A.4 I don't agree with this, either. While LibO's support for foreign file formats is limited and will probably remain somewhat limited (even though the developers are working pretty hard to get thigns into a usable state), to users it should not matter much if they are opening a DOC or an ODT – it will open in the same application and enable them to do the same things. A.5 You're right, we need a generic template icon which should also be used for all these purposes, so yes, 27.ico is what we need. B I believe we're doing this exactly as Microsoft advises us to: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa511280.aspx#size Can you check what Windows does when we hand it a 96*96 icon additionally? C I assume you mean the icons used for New element in the standard toolbar? I hate that as much as you, but it's actually quite tricky to fix as the icons don't have logical names at all and seemingly lay around in semi-random places (see the other thread). (Also, this is the one places where we currently require (for reasons unknown to me) 26*26 icons in all themes.) D Hm. What icon do you mean? The drawing template icon does seem to have a spiral binding. Finally: How about editing the SVG that we have for our icons? That should make the workflow a lot better than just editing the resulting bitmaps. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg Regards, Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Revising the icon design process
Hi Kévin, 2012/2/29 Kévin PEIGNOT peignot.ke...@kpeignot.fr Hi Mirek I agree thi sa good design process that must be tried. Then about the choice of align left / center / right, I'm not sure. We should begin with icons for the read only application (as LibreOffice for Android will begin as a simple reader before extending its functions), so icons like save, maybe export as PDF, send by e-mail... For next week maybe ? The feature set of the Android port is not set in stone yet. I don't think work has even started on the UI layer. Save wouldn't really make sense for a read-only app. Instead of Send by e-mail, LibreOffice should use Android's Share button. There'll also be a file browser, the feature set of which is also unclear. I'm not sure how the Android LibO will deal with filetypes. Since there's no visible central file management in Android -- all apps manage their own files -- it'd be ideal if all files were stored as ODF files within Mobile LibO and filetypes (Office, PDF, ...) were offered only when sharing documents. In any case, I chose to go with align icons as they're easy to design, ideal for testing the new design process, and they're key functionality that is going to end up in Mobile LibO once it gains basic text editing features. I deliberately avoided choosing a topic for which Android already bundles an icon (like Search or Share), since we're free to bundle this icon under the proper license (MIT). Once Android developers give word about the UI/features planned for the initial version of their LibO port, I'll propose the topics accordingly. For now, though, it's just a guessing game. Kevin 2012/2/29 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com Hi everyone, I'd like to rethink the whole icon design process. Based on the last few days, I feel that a lot of icon proposals were drafted cursorily, without really giving thought to their function, to our current icons, to relevant art from other applications, or to Android icons. I also feel like our discussions could be more productive, delving deeper to find and fix the smallest issues. So I'm proposing an entirely new design process, focused on a single topic each week. This week's topic are *Align left*, *Align right*, and *Align center *icons, which should be relatively easy to design. The deadline for submitting drafts is this Saturday (wherever you happen to be, don't worry about the time zone). You're also welcome to add links to images of prior art if a certain alignment icon caught your eye. (All the submitted icon drafts so far are still up on the wiki and we'll bring them up again.) We'll then analyze the rough drafts and work on the final icons. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Sorry Iv been away
Hi Andrew, 2012/2/29 Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com Hello Sorry for not being in the discussions for some time. im trying to keep up with my emails inbox and Im so confused. people keep submitting their concepts for icons but do not link to their location. where can I find these icons you guys are talking about. I would like to help out with this prosses but have no idea where to find them. They used to be on the wiki pagehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set, but now they're commented out, as the design process was revised. cheers Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Sorry Iv been away
ok thanks. I thought they should be there but did not see anything. Andrew On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, 2012/2/29 Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com Hello Sorry for not being in the discussions for some time. im trying to keep up with my emails inbox and Im so confused. people keep submitting their concepts for icons but do not link to their location. where can I find these icons you guys are talking about. I would like to help out with this prosses but have no idea where to find them. They used to be on the wiki pagehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set, but now they're commented out, as the design process was revised. cheers Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
