Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat at 14:00 GMT

2012-05-12 Thread Mirek M.
2012/5/12 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com

 Hey Mirek I dont think I am going to be able to make it for this meeting
 :( Due to me just starting my exams and having another 2 on monday and
 tuesday. Do you have the logs of last weeks meeting, and will you put this
 weeks logs up as well?


Yes
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings

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[libreoffice-design] Fwd: GSoC project [Impress remote]

2012-05-12 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone,
Just received word from Andrej, the student working on the Impress remote
GSoC project [1].
Alex is shaping the tentative design for that, though there is still room
for feedback and discussion.
We also have some things that still need to be designed: a place to select
computers, a screen that tells you if no computers are detected, the PIN
generator, the PIN entrybox in Impress (desktop version), a place to choose
whether to auto-decline calls (perhaps with a message that could be sent to
people trying to call), and a place to choose whether to use volume buttons
for moving between slides. I'm thinking most of these could be done within
a Settings screen, but anyone can add a proposal to
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote#In_Need_of_Design.
As he's in charge of the whiteboard now, Alex will design these. If no
better designs come up, Alex's designs will be used. If better designs come
up, they'll be used instead.

Here's the message I received from Andrej:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com
Date: 2012/5/12
Subject: Re: GSoC project
To: Andrzej J. R. Hunt andr...@ahunt.org


Hi Andrej,

2012/5/12 Andrzej J. R. Hunt andr...@ahunt.org

Hi Mirek,

 I had a look at the whiteboard -- it looks excellent!


Great. :)


 On 01/05/12 00:31, Mirek M. wrote:


 If so, we already have a whiteboard dedicated to the topic: https://wiki.
 **documentfoundation.org/Design/**Whiteboards/Impress_remotehttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote.
  Please take a look at the scope and change it if it needs to be changed
 -- the scope gives direction to the overall design; it's imperative that
 the designers know the restrictions beforehand.

 The scope looks exactly like what I would imagine it to be -- there aren't
 any problems with what is there.


good


 Right now we're brainstorming designs, then we're going to look at the
 different problems revealed during the brainstorming process, then we're
 going to try to agree on a solution to each problem. You will have the
 final say on each problem, of course. Based on these solutions, we will
 start crafting a tentative design. We'll need some input from you in this
 phase, unless you decide to trust us with the final design.

 I'd like to trust you with the final design -- I don't have much
 experience doing such design, and what I've seen so far is already far more
 detailed than anything I would have been able to design.


Alright, thanks.


 If I could add just one thing to Advancement of slides: I was
 considering whether it would be useful to also allow the use of hardware
 buttons, specifically on my phone the volume button is ideally placed so
 that I can hold the phone in one hand, with the display visible and my
 thumb on the volume control, meaning I can also change slides while not
 looking at the phone if needed. However this would probably have to be
 disable by default to prevent problems with users not expecting such
 behaviour.


Ok, we'll include it, then.


 Also some information that might be useful for the Initial Setup
 secction: when complete the app will be able to use both networking and
 bluetooth, i.e. at startup it will be possible to obtain a list of
 available computers to connect to -- I haven't however thought about how
 this should be presented to the user, or how selection of computer should
 be done. It might also be necessary to tell the user if wifi/bluetooth
 isn't enabled.


OK, we'll design with that in mind.


 Regards,

 Andrzej Hunt


[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: GSoC project [Impress remote]

2012-05-12 Thread Andrew Pullins
Why do we need to design for the ability to use the valium buttons. Won't
it just change slides when the user hits them. Or do we need to design the
option in the settings menu?
On May 12, 2012 6:08 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 Just received word from Andrej, the student working on the Impress remote
 GSoC project [1].
 Alex is shaping the tentative design for that, though there is still room
 for feedback and discussion.
 We also have some things that still need to be designed: a place to select
 computers, a screen that tells you if no computers are detected, the PIN
 generator, the PIN entrybox in Impress (desktop version), a place to choose
 whether to auto-decline calls (perhaps with a message that could be sent to
 people trying to call), and a place to choose whether to use volume buttons
 for moving between slides. I'm thinking most of these could be done within
 a Settings screen, but anyone can add a proposal to

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote#In_Need_of_Design
 .
 As he's in charge of the whiteboard now, Alex will design these. If no
 better designs come up, Alex's designs will be used. If better designs come
 up, they'll be used instead.

 Here's the message I received from Andrej:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com
 Date: 2012/5/12
 Subject: Re: GSoC project
 To: Andrzej J. R. Hunt andr...@ahunt.org


 Hi Andrej,

 2012/5/12 Andrzej J. R. Hunt andr...@ahunt.org

 Hi Mirek,
 
  I had a look at the whiteboard -- it looks excellent!


 Great. :)

 
  On 01/05/12 00:31, Mirek M. wrote:
 
 
  If so, we already have a whiteboard dedicated to the topic:
 https://wiki.
  **documentfoundation.org/Design/**Whiteboards/Impress_remote
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote.
 Please take a look at the scope and change it if it needs to be changed
  -- the scope gives direction to the overall design; it's imperative that
  the designers know the restrictions beforehand.
 
  The scope looks exactly like what I would imagine it to be -- there
 aren't
  any problems with what is there.
 

 good

 
  Right now we're brainstorming designs, then we're going to look at the
  different problems revealed during the brainstorming process, then we're
  going to try to agree on a solution to each problem. You will have the
  final say on each problem, of course. Based on these solutions, we will
  start crafting a tentative design. We'll need some input from you in
 this
  phase, unless you decide to trust us with the final design.
 
  I'd like to trust you with the final design -- I don't have much
  experience doing such design, and what I've seen so far is already far
 more
  detailed than anything I would have been able to design.
 

 Alright, thanks.

 
  If I could add just one thing to Advancement of slides: I was
  considering whether it would be useful to also allow the use of hardware
  buttons, specifically on my phone the volume button is ideally placed so
  that I can hold the phone in one hand, with the display visible and my
  thumb on the volume control, meaning I can also change slides while not
  looking at the phone if needed. However this would probably have to be
  disable by default to prevent problems with users not expecting such
  behaviour.
 

 Ok, we'll include it, then.

 
  Also some information that might be useful for the Initial Setup
  secction: when complete the app will be able to use both networking and
  bluetooth, i.e. at startup it will be possible to obtain a list of
  available computers to connect to -- I haven't however thought about how
  this should be presented to the user, or how selection of computer should
  be done. It might also be necessary to tell the user if wifi/bluetooth
  isn't enabled.
 

 OK, we'll design with that in mind.

 
  Regards,
 
  Andrzej Hunt
 

 [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote

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