[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2012-12-14 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone,
Unfortunately, it seems as though I won't be able to make it to the IRC
chat tomorrow.

If you can attend, though, please reply, and perhaps list some things you'd
like to discuss.

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[libreoffice-design] Cut/ Paste feature in Calc - is it possible to change the way it behaves?

2012-12-14 Thread eric.ficheux
Hello,

This is my first post here.

I work for Nantes Métropole (French public service) as project lead on a
LibreOffice deployment and change management project. We're currently
waiting for top management approval of the project before proceeding.

We've conducted a real-life test a few months ago with 75 users (non IT) to
complete our change management plan outline and business case.

A lot of the users involved in the test reported that they were annoyed by
the way the cut/paste function behaves in Calc as it doesn't really cut
selected lines or columns, but will instead erase their content, so they had
to select the line or column again and delete it to achieve the expected
result and didn't seem very logical.

I also share that point of view as a Calc user.

Changing this feature would improve the user experience as cut/paste is a
basic feature.

So, I submitted a bug (#54485) and got a works as designed answer.

What do you think about it, do other users share the same point of view?

I'm willing to participate, where can I start?


Best Regards,
Eric Ficheux




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Re: [libreoffice-design] Cut/ Paste feature in Calc - is it possible to change the way it behaves?

2012-12-14 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Eric,
On 14/12/2012 17:03, eric.ficheux wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is my first post here.

Good to see you here and welcome :)
 
 I work for Nantes Métropole (French public service) as project lead on a
 LibreOffice deployment and change management project. We're currently
 waiting for top management approval of the project before proceeding.
 
 We've conducted a real-life test a few months ago with 75 users (non IT) to
 complete our change management plan outline and business case.
 
 A lot of the users involved in the test reported that they were annoyed by
 the way the cut/paste function behaves in Calc as it doesn't really cut
 selected lines or columns, but will instead erase their content, so they had
 to select the line or column again and delete it to achieve the expected
 result and didn't seem very logical.
 
 I also share that point of view as a Calc user.
 
 Changing this feature would improve the user experience as cut/paste is a
 basic feature.
 
 So, I submitted a bug (#54485) and got a works as designed answer.

You have well done. The only thing is that it's a enhancement and not a
bug as Calc is designed to work like that. To change this behavior to
act as you want, you have to maintain the Alt key (you can come on the
FR lists if you need help or confirmations on functionality). But as you
said, we always can think to change a behavior if it doesn't fit the
user understanding.
 
 What do you think about it, do other users share the same point of view?
 
 I'm willing to participate, where can I start?

To what exactly want you to participate, coding or design?

Thanks for your feedback
Kind regards
Sophie
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