Re: [libreoffice-design] Finding a Purpose

2014-07-03 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Mirek,

On 3 juillet 2014 00:43:19 CEST, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
Recently, we've been talking about our workflow and, as part of that,
we
came to the conclusion that we need to define a clear direction. The
best
way to do that, IMHO, is defining a clear purpose for LibreOffice and
its
components and continually striving to fulfill that purpose as well as
possible.

In our last IRC chat [1], Reda Lazri proposed a 21st century suite
that is
easy for new users and powerful for existing ones.

My original thought was that LibreOffice was too disparate to have a
clear
purpose and wanted to define purposes for individual modules only.
However,
since that time, I've come around to the idea of having a single
purpose
for LibreOffice, and here's a rough draft I propose: to let the user
organize information and help them present it to others in a digestible
manner.

I should clarify that these are all just rough drafts, and that even
when
this team decides on a purpose, it won't be binding. The idea here is
to
not force a direction on devs and rather let the defined purposes stand
based on their merit.

I should also note that the goal derived from a purpose is basically to
provide the best user experience for fulfilling that purpose -- that
means
things like ease of use, speed, great visual and interaction design,
etc.
are all a given.

Post your thoughts on the purpose of LibreOffice in this thread and
hopefully we'll come to a firm conclusion at the next IRC meeting [2].

I must admit I am unsure why you need to define a purpose now, however we did 
come up with pretty much your line 4 years ago albeit in a mpre elegant way: 
LibreOffice strives to be the engine of your creation and the tool of your 
intelligence. Note however that a purpose is not the same as a slogan. The 
latter changes often.

Cheers,

Charles.





[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2014-06-29
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Finding a Purpose

2014-07-03 Thread Pedro Rosmaninho
I think that is a comendable effort but I think that it would be more
effective to define what is the purpose of each module individually. What
is it aimed at, so that UI design and dev work can be more focused in
improving the work torwards that purpose for each module.
Then also define a priority of what modules need to be improved first to
adjust to their defined purpose.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz 
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello Mirek,

 On 3 juillet 2014 00:43:19 CEST, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 Recently, we've been talking about our workflow and, as part of that,
 we
 came to the conclusion that we need to define a clear direction. The
 best
 way to do that, IMHO, is defining a clear purpose for LibreOffice and
 its
 components and continually striving to fulfill that purpose as well as
 possible.
 
 In our last IRC chat [1], Reda Lazri proposed a 21st century suite
 that is
 easy for new users and powerful for existing ones.
 
 My original thought was that LibreOffice was too disparate to have a
 clear
 purpose and wanted to define purposes for individual modules only.
 However,
 since that time, I've come around to the idea of having a single
 purpose
 for LibreOffice, and here's a rough draft I propose: to let the user
 organize information and help them present it to others in a digestible
 manner.
 
 I should clarify that these are all just rough drafts, and that even
 when
 this team decides on a purpose, it won't be binding. The idea here is
 to
 not force a direction on devs and rather let the defined purposes stand
 based on their merit.
 
 I should also note that the goal derived from a purpose is basically to
 provide the best user experience for fulfilling that purpose -- that
 means
 things like ease of use, speed, great visual and interaction design,
 etc.
 are all a given.
 
 Post your thoughts on the purpose of LibreOffice in this thread and
 hopefully we'll come to a firm conclusion at the next IRC meeting [2].

 I must admit I am unsure why you need to define a purpose now, however we
 did come up with pretty much your line 4 years ago albeit in a mpre elegant
 way: LibreOffice strives to be the engine of your creation and the tool of
 your intelligence. Note however that a purpose is not the same as a
 slogan. The latter changes often.

 Cheers,

 Charles.




 
 [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2014-06-29
 [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings
 
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