Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-23 Thread Andreas Mantke 
Hello,

Am 10.01.2016 um 22:33 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
> Hello Andreas, Cor,
>
> Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
>>> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
 Hi Cor,
 the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
 nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.

 But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:

 -- design of the new site
 -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
 -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
>>> Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
>>> It's already budgetted for?
>> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
>> status. The tester need only to work with the forms.
> For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the
> designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with
> the same design (small variations are of course possible).
>
> When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here,
> one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and
> migration)?

I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough
volunteers to test the current development status.

There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible
to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has
given the new site a try up to now.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Ideation on LibreOffice Logo Improvements

2016-01-23 Thread kainz.a 
Heiko, same as I thought

thanks for your awesome work Christoph

Cheers
Andreas

2016-01-23 23:45 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze :

> On Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:02:34 CET Christoph Noack wrote:
> > What are your initial thoughts, pros, cons, or ideas? I would really
> > appreciate your feedback - and your questions. And, if needed, I'll set
> > up a dedicated whiteboard for that topic ...?Thanks!
>
> The logo is perfect, especially in monochrome with the enlarged character
> spacing for the TDF letters.
> I'm not a fan of the bright green (the old branding color was nicer) in
> particular combined with the white font. And the lemons could be
> attributed as
> sour rather than fresh.  However, I'm not a designer, so don't care too
> much.
> From the UX POV the colored text in IconsInclMotif are questionable. In
> particular the yellow is hard to read. And the green of the logo interferes
> with Calc's green.
> The wallpaper feels a little bit untidy and irritating. To me, the dog-ear
> triangle from the logo without the page doesn't work. Last but not least
> the
> bugs have a friendly but warning color, very nice. Maybe you can make the
> bugs
> a little bit cuter, laydbugs perhaps? :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Heiko

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-23 Thread Charles-H . Schulz 
Hello Andreas,

Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-23 11:05 CET:

> Hello,
>
> Am 10.01.2016 um 22:33 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
>> Hello Andreas, Cor,
>>
>> Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
 Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
> Hi Cor,
> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
>
> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
>
> -- design of the new site
> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
 Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
 It's already budgetted for?
>>> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
>>> status. The tester need only to work with the forms.
>> For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the
>> designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with
>> the same design (small variations are of course possible).
>>
>> When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here,
>> one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and
>> migration)?
>
> I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough
> volunteers to test the current development status.
>
> There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible
> to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has
> given the new site a try up to now.

We cannot force people to test the platform :-) So we may want to go ahead
with the tendering process and make sure tests are included in the migration
tender. Does it make sense?

Best,

Charles.


>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
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[libreoffice-design] Some Ideation on LibreOffice Logo Improvements

2016-01-23 Thread Christoph Noack 
Hi all,

I hope 2016 started great for all of you! To me, one topic for this new
year might be the question whether logo refinements would be beneficial
for LibreOffice. That calls for your input :-)

Historically, today's logo was prepared for the initial release of
LibO. To me, it worked quite well – but it also required compromises
(e.g. visual details vs. time constraints, embedded TDF subline for
marketing reasons). One of my early blog posts at [1] provides some
background info. Or, for a better overview, please browse the first
pages of “LibreOffice – The History...” at [2].

Today “LibreOffice” is a quite established brand – and it evolved
technically (e.g. LibreOffice Viewer for Android). So my aims for an
improved logo were:
* Achieve modern style (ideally, be timeless)
* Keep consistency (to established logo/brand)
* Clean-up visual structure (and prepare for various uses-cases)

Overview of the ideation (incl. variants, details and usage examples):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/2/25/LibreOffice_LogoImprove
ments2016_Ideation.png

The page presenting selected graphics (incl. source SVG & references):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/LogoImprovement
s2016

What are your initial thoughts, pros, cons, or ideas? I would really
appreciate your feedback - and your questions. And, if needed, I'll set
up a dedicated whiteboard for that topic ... Thanks!

Cheers,
Christoph

[1] http://luxate.blogspot.de/2010/10/few-days-ago-somebody-wrote-on.ht
ml 

[2] http://www.vignoli.org/ftp/libreoffice-thehistorymaxi.pdf

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Ideation on LibreOffice Logo Improvements

2016-01-23 Thread Heiko Tietze 
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:02:34 CET Christoph Noack wrote:
> What are your initial thoughts, pros, cons, or ideas? I would really
> appreciate your feedback - and your questions. And, if needed, I'll set
> up a dedicated whiteboard for that topic ...?Thanks!

The logo is perfect, especially in monochrome with the enlarged character 
spacing for the TDF letters. 
I'm not a fan of the bright green (the old branding color was nicer) in 
particular combined with the white font. And the lemons could be attributed as 
sour rather than fresh.  However, I'm not a designer, so don't care too much.
>From the UX POV the colored text in IconsInclMotif are questionable. In 
particular the yellow is hard to read. And the green of the logo interferes 
with Calc's green.
The wallpaper feels a little bit untidy and irritating. To me, the dog-ear 
triangle from the logo without the page doesn't work. Last but not least the 
bugs have a friendly but warning color, very nice. Maybe you can make the bugs 
a little bit cuter, laydbugs perhaps? :-)

Cheers,
Heiko
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