Re: [libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Do you have an initial system specification as a testing guideline? Guideline for what testing? Did you not get it that no testing is needed yet? What is needed is development work. Which could include a more detailed system specification. --tml -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
On 06/25/2013 02:27 AM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Do you have an initial system specification as a testing guideline? Guideline for what testing? Did you not get it that no testing is needed yet? What is needed is development work. Which could include a more detailed system specification. --tml I know that LO for Android is in Alpha, but I thought the developers would have some idea of minimum system requirements. say 9 inch screen [or larger preferred] dual core processor 500 MB or 1 GB of RAM 500 MB internal memory free for install and needed swap space that sort of thing. I wish I could help in the development stage, but for me coding is a thing of the past with most of my experience coding mainframes and before 3 strokes. What little I have relearned with Python and C++ would not be up to the needs of a developer. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
I know that LO for Android is in Alpha, Well, even alpha is wrong (if one believes the definition of alpha in Wikipedia). It is in the middle of development (pre-alpha) and lots of important decisions can still be changed. --tml -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Do you have an initial system specification as a testing guideline? To be honest, I do not know how to install an app outside of a app store. Google Play and Nook for the new 9 in Nook HD+, while the old 7 inch Mach Trio used Amazon and two others. On 06/24/2013 04:27 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi there, On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:41 -0400, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work. Our prototype (which we're working quietly on) is better in many regards already: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/current/ The ExperimentalDesktop one - *but* - we're not at all interested in user input / bug reports (yet) - only patches - we know there are plenty of issues ;-) On the other hand - we are interested in patches, and people helping out with development there. ATB, Michael. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
To be honest, I do not know how to install an app outside of a app store. Google Play and Nook for the new 9 in Nook HD+, while the old 7 inch Mach Trio used Amazon and two others. It is very easy to do outside of the play store you need to get the APK package onto the device then use the file manager to navigate to the apk on the device and install it that way. Regards Jonathan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play. I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide display, with 16 gig internal. After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work. So I tried to use the back button to exit the app but it would not work. I had to use the Nook Button to go to my Home screen to get out of that frozen AOO screen. AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a normal install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on the top of the screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not touch only the needed option. It touched the options all around it as well. Now, I have a 9 inch tablet. It would even be worse on a 7 inch tablet. So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like. 1] Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at the same time. Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll. 2] Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch tablet. AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one. 3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less than 2 minutes, if possible. If not, warn the user it may take x number of minutes to load up completely. 4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic office package to do some quick things. It should not be areplacement for a desktop or laptop system. 5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and the tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control icons too small to use properly and easily. 6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower CPUs, compared to the top of the line tablets. Not all tablets have dual core CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal storage. My old one does not even come close. I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their office package needs. What type of features and options are really needed, or wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the ODF and OOXML [07-13] documents. But what editing options will you need? I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one was a 7 inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a low end one. This new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th through the 15th, Father's Day Salepricing was the only way I could afford to get one of these better tablets. I am still learning what this better tablet can do and what apps I might want or need. Right now, I do not want a packagelike AOO for Android. So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with their version. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
