Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Ricardo, Good point! I will make sure to add that to the wiki page. Cheers, Jaron On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: One problem I can see on many templates is the use of proprietary font, like arial, times new roman, thorndale, etc: none of those fonts are installed on my Linux system, for instance. I think that a LibO default template must use the fonts delivered with LibO, otherwise there will be compatibility issues on different platforms and that's not good. Cheers, Ricardo 2011/2/12 Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I have updated the wiki page significantly. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates I added a new section which I hope can be used to critique the existing default templates many of which (from my attempts to review each one) have problems such as font choice (serif fonts should be frowned upon), alignment issues (content and title area's improperly aligned), inadequate background images (too bright or distracting) and bullet indentation (too large an indentation makes second level numbered content, and higher numbered content, space inefficient). Please feel free to look over my work and add your own critiques of the existing default templates. In other news, I added Paulo's Green Theme to the wiki with a link to his blog page. It looks good Paulo I can't wait to see bullets. If you need help with setting up a master page for your template let me know and I can help. If you send me your background image and bullet images along with your desired fonts I can create the template for you. Please let me know if there are things on the wiki page you want changed, or you can just change them yourself. :-) Cheers, Jaron On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the feedback. I have started a wiki page as recommended by Bernhard at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates Hopefully, I can finish cleaning it up and filling it out later this evening. Once I get the page completed I will send an invitation to the Docs group for collaboration. Is there anyone else that I should involve? Cheers, Jaron 2011/2/10 Paulo José paul...@gmail.com On 10-02-2011 08:58, Bernhard Dippold wrote: ... and Kevin! :-) *:) Yeah, and Kevin for the great idea, as I've said. :-P On 09-02-2011 19:25, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jaron! Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 16:36 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin_Items and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! If you didn't already (sorry if I don't remember every mail I read during the last week), would you mind to create a dedicated wiki page for the presentation template work? Something like http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates (Any better structure idea welcome) I think it might be a good idea to collect the template categories and some more specific information there, allowing others (from other teams, if interested) to join. It will be very useful and I hope to see it soon fill up with good ideas from all. :D I didn't see the Christoph's link with the user feedback about templates, but I think would be nice to include its information in this page too. :) Maybe later I can help on it. ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Paulo, Unfortunately, Impress is horribly buggy and not very intuitive sometimes. The program could use a complete overhaul, and the ODF (.odp) presentation format could use a serious update in order for LibO presentations to compare to MS Powerpoint or Keynote presentations. Some of your errors I haven't experienced but I have experienced other problems of my own. 2011/2/13 Paulo José paul...@gmail.com Assuming that I'm a really newbie to the Impress advanced usage (only almost now I discovery the master slide feature), I accept your help with pleasure! Well, my first questions are: * What is the best step-by-step to setup all the styles of boxes in a template? I mean, which the differences between use Styles in a Slide and in Master pages. In theory, if you change text in the master slide (ex: you change the font in Level 2 outline text) it should also change the Outline 2 text style. Additionally, changing an outline style (ex: the font change to Level 2) will change all the higher level outline styles (3-9 will also have a font change) since the styles are linked. * Is there a way to create guidelines and snap the content to them? Or even better, create snap points in a text box, so is possible to snap automatically any object to it, even if is moved or have its size changed? You can create guidelines and create a grid for the document. ViewGrid Show, ViewGuidesDisplay Guides and ViewGuidesSnap to Guides need to all be selected and for some reason are not by default (which I think should change). To change the grid resolution (which is set to 0.5 by default) go to LibreOfficePreferencesImpressGrid. Unfortunately, this change won't be saved to the template. * It's possibly to setup variables and others fields to presentations? Fields are extremely limited in Impress. Only the default fields will be accessible for the general user. :-( This means there are a lot of cool features we could add to Impress Templates that won't be accessible. * How can I create a index (summary) of slides and it's automatically updated? You can't... sort of... The InsertSummary Slide function creates a slide with a content box filled with the titles of each slide. It does not, however, update itself automatically. Additionally, it only adds Titles from the selected slide onward (so if you are on slide 7 or 9 slides and click create summary slide it will only create a summary that includes the titles of slides 7, 8 and 9). Essentially this function is useless for templates and inaccessible to most users since the command follows no common sense. I'm suffering with little bugs too... When I configure a Outline 3 style and save it, the Outline 1 style is changed to something completely different. Also the indentation of some styles [generally Outline 1] is changed by itself when I switch between slides. And even the line spacing is automatically changed from 125% (my setting) to 93% or 117%, randomly. Why these numbers? Why not 42%? :P Weird... Could you send the file to me directly. I will look at it and see if I can figure out why its doing this. Those things are really annoying and take a lot of time to correct... So if you're experiencing none of these bugs, I'll really thankful to left this formating job to you do. Thank you so much in advance for your help! Agreed! There are a lot of annoying bugs! I will try and make a list as I make templates but to be honest there are so many I currently find the task of recording the error, and creating a bug report for each very scary. Cheers, Jaron -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Jaron! Am Sonntag, den 13.02.2011, 12:48 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Hi Ricardo, Good point! I will make sure to add that to the wiki page. Thanks! But a minor addition - maybe helpful as well. If you look at the recent LibreOffice presentation template [1], I've referred to several fonts at once. If you add ; as a list separator, then Impress will try to use the first font name in the list. If it's not available, then it will look for the second one, If it's unavailable, then ... Cheers, Christoph [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#LibreOffice_initial_presentation_template_.28DRAFT.29 On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: One problem I can see on many templates is the use of proprietary font, like arial, times new roman, thorndale, etc: none of those fonts are installed on my Linux system, for instance. I think that a LibO default template must use the fonts delivered with LibO, otherwise there will be compatibility issues on different platforms and that's not good. Cheers, Ricardo 2011/2/12 Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I have updated the wiki page significantly. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates I added a new section which I hope can be used to critique the existing default templates many of which (from my attempts to review each one) have problems such as font choice (serif fonts should be frowned upon), alignment issues (content and title area's improperly aligned), inadequate background images (too bright or distracting) and bullet indentation (too large an indentation makes second level numbered content, and higher numbered content, space inefficient). Please feel free to look over my work and add your own critiques of the existing default templates. In other news, I added Paulo's Green Theme to the wiki with a link to his blog page. It looks good Paulo I can't wait to see bullets. If you need help with setting up a master page for your template let me know and I can help. If you send me your background image and bullet images along with your desired fonts I can create the template for you. Please let me know if there are things on the wiki page you want changed, or you can just change them yourself. :-) Cheers, Jaron On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the feedback. I have started a wiki page as recommended by Bernhard at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates Hopefully, I can finish cleaning it up and filling it out later this evening. Once I get the page completed I will send an invitation to the Docs group for collaboration. Is there anyone else that I should involve? Cheers, Jaron 2011/2/10 Paulo José paul...@gmail.com On 10-02-2011 08:58, Bernhard Dippold wrote: ... and Kevin! :-) *:) Yeah, and Kevin for the great idea, as I've said. :-P On 09-02-2011 19:25, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jaron! Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 16:36 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin_Items and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! If you didn't already (sorry if I don't remember every mail I read during the last week), would you mind to create a dedicated wiki page for the presentation template work? Something like http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates (Any better structure idea welcome) I think it might be a good idea to collect the template categories and some more specific information there, allowing others (from other teams, if interested) to join. It will be very useful and I hope to see it soon fill up with good ideas from all. :D I didn't see the Christoph's link with the user feedback about templates, but I think would be nice to include its information in this page too. :) Maybe later I can help on it. ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Jaron, hi Paulo! Maybe some additional hints ... Am Sonntag, den 13.02.2011, 13:34 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Assuming that I'm a really newbie to the Impress advanced usage (only almost now I discovery the master slide feature), I accept your help with pleasure! Well, my first questions are: * What is the best step-by-step to setup all the styles of boxes in a template? I mean, which the differences between use Styles in a Slide and in Master pages. In theory, if you change text in the master slide (ex: you change the font in Level 2 outline text) it should also change the Outline 2 text style. Additionally, changing an outline style (ex: the font change to Level 2) will change all the higher level outline styles (3-9 will also have a font change) since the styles are linked. Most of the style weirdness within Impress is based on the fact, that both Impress mimics the behavior of PowerPoint, and it tries to behave like the other LibreOffice applications. Thus, if you look at the stylist, there are: * Graphic Styles: To be used like normal styles (equal to Draw). Those are not related to master pages, but changes affect the _whole_ presentation. * Presentation Styles: Equal the objects of master pages. If you change those, the formatting of the objects of the currently applied master page will be changed. Thus, they do not affect the whole presentation. If you use the Master Page View, then the page shows some objects (e.g. the outline). If you change the formatting of those objects, then the Presentation Styles are changed as well - this is different to the Normal view when editing the presentation content. But, not all of the objects are shown - Subtitle for example is only available via the Stylist. Also important, some of the settings from within the Master Page View are applied globally (for all slides using the current Master Page), but are not part of the Stylist: the size and the position of the master page objects (Title Area, Object Area, ...). By the way: Presentation Styles, Background Objects refer to things like page number, footer, ... but some of the settings are not stored (according to my experience). Does this clarify the behavior of Impress a bit? Comments appreciated :-) Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Christoph! On 13-02-2011 21:14, Christoph Noack wrote: Oh, I noticed in the comments to your blog posting [1] that you found the workaround that also worked for me in the past. But since we already talk about the templates, may I add some thoughts? But first a question - are the current templates meant to used as official marketing templates for LibreOffice? You know, the artistic quality is (as usual - so to say) just fantastic ;-) Thank you so much! Well, I don't see no problems on this (Is this phrase correct? :/). Since my work is libre, it can be changed by everyone to better fit into marketing purposes. :) When I looked a the designs, I had to remember one particular statement of one of the supervisors at my university. When a student once held a presentation with gradients that caused darker slide edges, he noted: Engineers worked very hard on data project technology to ensure homogeneous lighting for the whole picture. This, it seems that the design might only work well if people know that this effect is really intended ... so please don't get me wrong, I just wanted to share what made me think about slide designs a few years ago. I understand the point of your supervisor. And he's right; the Vignetting Effect was an [undesirable] effect in photography and even today is used with much caution by most photographers. It's easy overdo its usage. Although, I personaly love this effect - so I probably overdone on it. :-[ . I'll try to reduce it a little bit to make it less perceptive and more natural. Thank you for this thinking! Waiting for your comments on my 3D stuff. :P But just do it if you'll have time, of course. By the way, a little note: today I had sucess to convert the LOO logo to blender curves... :) A footnote after that: If you think the Impress bugs are bad, you should see Blender bugs... :O -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi again Christoph! On 13-02-2011 21:01, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jaron, hi Paulo! Maybe some additional hints ... [...] Most of the style weirdness within Impress is based on the fact, that both Impress mimics the behavior of PowerPoint, and it tries to behave like the other LibreOffice applications. Well, it's a bit confusing. :/ The bug I initially cited is a prove to how much GOOD is this mimic; The Power Point support is to improved that background images are not stored in the ODP file, but in the PPT they was! Thus, if you look at the stylist, there are: * Graphic Styles: To be used like normal styles (equal to Draw). Those are not related to master pages, but changes affect the _whole_ presentation. * Presentation Styles: Equal the objects of master pages. If you change those, the formatting of the objects of the currently applied master page will be changed. Thus, they do not affect the whole presentation. If you use the Master Page View, then the page shows some objects (e.g. the outline). If you change the formatting of those objects, then the Presentation Styles are changed as well - this is different to the Normal view when editing the presentation content. But, not all of the objects are shown - Subtitle for example is only available via the Stylist. Also important, some of the settings from within the Master Page View are applied globally (for all slides using the current Master Page), but are not part of the Stylist: the size and the position of the master page objects (Title Area, Object Area, ...). By the way: Presentation Styles, Background Objects refer to things like page number, footer, ... but some of the settings are not stored (according to my experience). Does this clarify the behavior of Impress a bit? Comments appreciated :-) Yeah, these commentaries make things a lot clearer than before! Specially about Graphic Styles! I'm learning a lot Impress. But for now I think it's needing a new identify. Or even to find a own identify for the first time. All the support for Microsoft features seemly leave no space to Impress create and improve its own functionalities. :/ Good night, ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.comYeh -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi everybody! Sad news [for me]... I'm experiencing the bug #316023 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/316023 [1] (the old and fixed bug #201005 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/201005 [2]), which sadly forbid me to create templates correctly in Impress. The main problem is the impossibility to save more than one background in the Open Document (or template) format. Ironically, saving the presentation in the PowerPoint format works fine... :P So I'm able to help creating presentation templates, but I'm limited to save them as PPT or send the images to others. If someone could help me converting the file to ODP or applying the backgrounds for me, I'll be very thankful. Thank you in advance, ~Paulo [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/316023 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/201005 -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Le 2011-02-10 05:58, Bernhard Dippold a écrit : Hi all, Paulo José schrieb: It seems to be very useful! Good job Jaron and Christoph! :) ... and Kevin! :-) On 09-02-2011 19:25, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jaron! Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 16:36 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin_Items and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! If you didn't already (sorry if I don't remember every mail I read during the last week), would you mind to create a dedicated wiki page for the presentation template work? Something like http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates (Any better structure idea welcome) I think it might be a good idea to collect the template categories and some more specific information there, allowing others (from other teams, if interested) to join. Best regards Bernhard FYI, if this make any difference: There is also the attempt to migrate to OOo templates to our site. But licensing issues are still being considered. It is filling up slowly. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates Also, I had started this in the ideas section: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas/Template_team Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
On 10-02-2011 08:58, Bernhard Dippold wrote: ... and Kevin! :-) *:) Yeah, and Kevin for the great idea, as I've said. :-P On 09-02-2011 19:25, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jaron! Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 16:36 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin_Items and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! If you didn't already (sorry if I don't remember every mail I read during the last week), would you mind to create a dedicated wiki page for the presentation template work? Something like http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Presentation_Templates (Any better structure idea welcome) I think it might be a good idea to collect the template categories and some more specific information there, allowing others (from other teams, if interested) to join. It will be very useful and I hope to see it soon fill up with good ideas from all. :D I didn't see the Christoph's link with the user feedback about templates, but I think would be nice to include its information in this page too. :) Maybe later I can help on it. ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
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Hi Michael! Am Donnerstag, den 10.02.2011, 22:49 +0930 schrieb Michael Wheatland: If we cannot establish their licence and attribution we should not be using or distributing them under a potentially new licence without the express permission of the contributor. You and I would expect the same treatment for our contributions. Very well said ... I fully second these thoughts. Thanks! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Jaron! Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 16:36 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! Thanks for having a look on this topic - I'm not that helpful here (in person), but I wanted to ask whether the OOo user survey data might be helpful to group the items. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOoUserSurvey2009_Final.ods Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
It seems to be very useful! Good job Jaron and Christoph! :) On 09-02-2011 19:25, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jaron! Am Montag, den 07.02.2011, 16:36 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! Thanks for having a look on this topic - I'm not that helpful here (in person), but I wanted to ask whether the OOo user survey data might be helpful to group the items. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOoUserSurvey2009_Final.ods Cheers, Christoph -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi LibO Designers, Quick question... Is anyone familiar with the following: - Right-to-left language templates (ex: Arabic, Hebrew) - Top-to-bottom language templates (ex: Chinese) I feel like it would be nice if we supported those with at least one general use template for each language direction. What do people think? I am personally completely unfamiliar with top-to-bottom languages in the context of presentations. Cheers, Jaron On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Kevin Soviero ksovi...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or more) for each of us... For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy ;)), and I can coordinate colors. We need someone to do the technical stuff (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base the templates on. Your list is a very good start though... Any other jobs you can think of? On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote: It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Kevin Soviero Email: ksovi...@gmail.com mailto:ksovi...@gmail.com Phone: (512) 672-9641 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi LibO Designers, Sorry for a second email already. ;-) I decided to send out a list of potential template categories that Kevin and I would use to guide our development of the default LibO templates. I wasn't sure how to get started so I thought about use cases for Impress and then created potential template categories as follows (with design concepts in parenthesizes): *Academic templates:* - Architecture/Engineering (I-beam or similar structural element) - Biology/Chemistry (chemical symbol or stylized chemical model) - Social Sciences (one template as a sociology image) - *Economics could overlap with Business template and Geography could overlap with travel* - Performing arts - History *Business Templates:* - Business logo oriented theme (could include directions in theme to substitute a company logo for a placeholder within the master) - Motivational: (Stylized human reaching for star) *Leisure home Templates: * - Photobooks (bound book look) - Weddings or other life-events - Sports (maybe a Futbol theme as it is the most popular sport internationally) *Nature and Travel Templates:* - Seasonal (perhaps a simple one for each season) - Nature and animals - Travel (Famous locations or a stylized map/compass) *General Templates:* - Solid color (currently available in LibO, so we should evaluate which ones we want to keep) - High contrast (Simple black on white or similar) - *Right-to-left language templates:* exs: Arabic, Hebrew - *Top-to-bottom language Templates:* exs: Chinese Please provide feedback or direction as Kevin and I move forward on developing a few templates. Thanks! Cheers, Jaron On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jaron Kuppers jaronba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi LibO Designers, Quick question... Is anyone familiar with the following: - Right-to-left language templates (ex: Arabic, Hebrew) - Top-to-bottom language templates (ex: Chinese) I feel like it would be nice if we supported those with at least one general use template for each language direction. What do people think? I am personally completely unfamiliar with top-to-bottom languages in the context of presentations. Cheers, Jaron On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Kevin Soviero ksovi...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or more) for each of us... For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy ;)), and I can coordinate colors. We need someone to do the technical stuff (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base the templates on. Your list is a very good start though... Any other jobs you can think of? On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote: It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Kevin Soviero Email: ksovi...@gmail.com mailto:ksovi...@gmail.com Phone: (512) 672-9641 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Kevin, all, Yeah, we need some help with typography too. There's someway to include fonts (open source) in a template? Just like is done in PDF files... It would be great and improve a lot our presentations. Over, I'm working in some general templates too, just to help our start. :D I'll post them in my [new] blog when its finished. http://paulojose-brainstorm.blogspot.com/2011/02/bachianas-no1-libreoffice-templates.html On 01-02-2011 19:40, Kevin Soviero wrote: Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or more) for each of us... For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy ;)), and I can coordinate colors. We need someone to do the technical stuff (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base the templates on. Your list is a very good start though... Any other jobs you can think of? On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote: It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Kevin, I had attempted a long time ago a similar project for OOo before I became overwhelmed by other commitments and had to drop the topic. One minor issue I met with was finding templates that satisfied the design community while satisfying user expectations. What I mean is, users (according to the design community) often make horrible presentations; however, users expect certain features to be available in their design templates. Very slightly off-topic I think we could use a LibreOffice Impress template that could be very helpful for the community to make LibO presentations. Features could include using the paper tab (the top right of the logo) as bullets at the primary level, the LibO logo perhaps in the top left and then of course some nice and simple design background. (These are just suggestions you can do whatever you like, of course). Its not explicitly related to your topic but it could be really helpful for branding and the like if you have the time. Cheers, Jaron 2011/1/31 Paulo José paul...@gmail.com It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Hi Jaron! Am Dienstag, den 01.02.2011, 16:09 -0500 schrieb Jaron Kuppers: Christoph, I must have completely missed that in your work items list... I even explicitly looked for it... go figure. Glad you set me straight. :-) Just one small correction, it's our work items list ;-))) If you need any help, let me know! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress(ing) Templates
Alright, How about we carve template design up into sections, one (or more) for each of us... For example, I am good at making the background (not just cause its easy ;)), and I can coordinate colors. We need someone to do the technical stuff (title placement, etc...) , and we need to come up with the subjects to base the templates on. Your list is a very good start though... Any other jobs you can think of? On 01/31/2011 08:43 PM, Paulo José wrote: It's a great idea! I think some steps to start this should be: 1. Choose some main topics to cover with the templates, for all types of presentation: school, enterprise, marketing... 2. Look for the real presentations in each topics. There are many sites of slide sharing, when you can find the most rated presentations. I gives the feeling of what is needed to achieve in each template. 3. Work hard to create the best templates in a office suite ever! :D Count with me, ~Paulo I ever start with the Ubuntu one... :P On 31-01-2011 01:45, Kevin Soviero wrote: As I am sure most of you have noticed by now, the default set of templates from OOo Impress is terrible. I was wondering if I were to make a set (lets say 10 - 20) of really high quality templates for Impress, if we could get them included by default? -- Kevin Soviero Email: ksovi...@gmail.com mailto:ksovi...@gmail.com Phone: (512) 672-9641 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
