Re: [libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 05/20/2013 09:53 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

Hi KJ,

Le 20/05/13 09:23 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit :

Hi Tim,
Am 20.05.2013 13:32, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:
[...]


This version of the brochure has a "simple" black line.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr--black-line.odt 





Thanks for it. That was a starting point to do two new proposals:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Lines_for_brochures



Nice work! I especially like the smaller ones with the green corner 
"tear-off" in the middle.[1][2]


Tim: could you test try the smaller ones and see if they print OK in 
colour. I don't have a colour printer. This would give us a better 
idea if one is better than the other.


Cheers,

Marc

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lines-blgr1_draft_k-j.png

[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lines-blgr2_draft_k-j.png



Are you asking me to add the [1] and [2] to the brochure and test it out 
in color?


Will do. I just had to remember to leave the "line" where the "≈≈≈" is.
[that is not on my keyboard so I had to look it up in the older posting]
Then use a wrap through for the graphic image to keep the page/line 
formatting correct.


OK, I used this image

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lines-blgr1_draft_k-j.png

in place of my "simple line" and it prints out fine on both my 
monochrome laser and my Canon inkjet. I like that image over the "blgr2" 
version.


Here is my test file.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr-green-triangle-1-line.odt 





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Re: [libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-20 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Tim,
Am 20.05.2013 13:32, schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster:
[...]


This version of the brochure has a "simple" black line.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr--black-line.odt


Thanks for it. That was a starting point to do two new proposals:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Lines_for_brochures

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-20 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 05/20/2013 07:08 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:

Hi Marc, Tim, *
Am 19.05.2013 13:12, schrieb Marc Paré:

In our "General Information" brochure[1], we (the marketing team) break
some sections of text with a line that is made up of " ≈ "
(tilde's). However, when we go to print, some printers interpret this
line as a group of tilde's separated by micro-blank-space between each
tilde OR other printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's but
grouped together as one wavy line.

We should really be using a nice graphic to separate these sections.
Would anyone on the design team have a good graphic that we could use
instead of this line? We could then use the same graphic in all of our
brochure-types that we are planning to write up.


Starting some thoughts.
Not the best but better than nothing:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Lines_for_brochures

I personally think that the black one is better because of the 
terrible different three greens.

You can have the svg if you want to use one of them.

Hoping that some others bring in better proposals.




This version of the brochure has a "simple" black line.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr--black-line.odt

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-20 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Marc, Tim, *
Am 19.05.2013 13:12, schrieb Marc Paré:

In our "General Information" brochure[1], we (the marketing team) break
some sections of text with a line that is made up of " ≈ "
(tilde's). However, when we go to print, some printers interpret this
line as a group of tilde's separated by micro-blank-space between each
tilde OR other printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's but
grouped together as one wavy line.

We should really be using a nice graphic to separate these sections.
Would anyone on the design team have a good graphic that we could use
instead of this line? We could then use the same graphic in all of our
brochure-types that we are planning to write up.


Starting some thoughts.
Not the best but better than nothing:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Lines_for_brochures

I personally think that the black one is better because of the terrible 
different three greens.

You can have the svg if you want to use one of them.

Hoping that some others bring in better proposals.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-19 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


Whatever graphic will be included, remember is will be printed out at 
300 or 600 DPI - most home office color printers - and be maybe an inch 
or 2.5 cm long.


That leaves out a lot of the listings below that look great in larger 
scales.


This brochure need to be printed out on home office systems - inkjet and 
laser [color and monochrome].  So real complex images shrunk down to fit 
the needed size and placement may not work well at all.


Scrolling or swirling works fine for most ideas I used.  We just have to 
make sure of the size and placement, while keeping the text formatting 
in its desired placement on the pages.


On 05/19/2013 10:11 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:

Hi Marc,
Am 19.05.2013 13:12, schrieb Marc Paré:

In our "General Information" brochure[1], we (the marketing team) break
some sections of text with a line that is made up of " ≈ "
(tilde's). However, when we go to print, some printers interpret this
line as a group of tilde's separated by micro-blank-space between each
tilde OR other printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's but
grouped together as one wavy line.

We should really be using a nice graphic to separate these sections.
Would anyone on the design team have a good graphic that we could use
instead of this line? We could then use the same graphic in all of our
brochure-types that we are planning to write up.


Maybe something like [1]? The svg and png are here [2].
See an example in [3].
I'm using it here: [4].

[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:TDF_motifscatterHorizon_110318NS.png
[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Variants_for_Future_Use
[3] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Scatter_in-context_update

[4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/Koordination#Get_Involved.21

I know that the motif was kicked away silently by all of the designers 
who contributed in last time.



The marketing team would really appreciate it if you could take a look
at the brochure and see if you would have any suggestion(s) for a
graphic replacement.


My 0,2 cts from a non-professional designer:
- The cover page is too black. Why don't you use the same colour as in 
the circle? For me it has a hard breaking white text.
- The cover background colour (black) should expand over the whole 
page and should not have a white "Trauerrand".
- Is it possible to print a professional brochure in high quality with 
an .odt (300dpi) or do we need a DTP-file?

- The whole thing is, as I told many times, breaking any branding rules.
So if we use it, we should change the branding rules to make it official.
- And IMHO the 4.0-greens (either this in the half circle or in the 
splashscreen) don't look good with any of our branding greens and so 
especially the community brochure [1] have a substantial problem by 
using the official logo with the LibO-green and the 4.0-splashgreen.
The last two points are (my personal opinion) "mistakes" of the 
marketing/website team and! the design team. And we all will get more 
and more problems with it if we don't solve it. But this should be 
another thread.

[...]
(I deleted my last sentence. If you are interested I can send it per PM.)


As it should be a professional and official brochure anyone should ask 
a professional designer what he thinks about it.



[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-A4.odt





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Re: [libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-19 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Marc,
Am 19.05.2013 13:12, schrieb Marc Paré:

In our "General Information" brochure[1], we (the marketing team) break
some sections of text with a line that is made up of " ≈ "
(tilde's). However, when we go to print, some printers interpret this
line as a group of tilde's separated by micro-blank-space between each
tilde OR other printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's but
grouped together as one wavy line.

We should really be using a nice graphic to separate these sections.
Would anyone on the design team have a good graphic that we could use
instead of this line? We could then use the same graphic in all of our
brochure-types that we are planning to write up.


Maybe something like [1]? The svg and png are here [2].
See an example in [3].
I'm using it here: [4].

[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:TDF_motifscatterHorizon_110318NS.png

[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Variants_for_Future_Use
[3] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Scatter_in-context_update

[4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/Koordination#Get_Involved.21

I know that the motif was kicked away silently by all of the designers 
who contributed in last time.



The marketing team would really appreciate it if you could take a look
at the brochure and see if you would have any suggestion(s) for a
graphic replacement.


My 0,2 cts from a non-professional designer:
- The cover page is too black. Why don't you use the same colour as in 
the circle? For me it has a hard breaking white text.
- The cover background colour (black) should expand over the whole page 
and should not have a white "Trauerrand".
- Is it possible to print a professional brochure in high quality with 
an .odt (300dpi) or do we need a DTP-file?

- The whole thing is, as I told many times, breaking any branding rules.
So if we use it, we should change the branding rules to make it official.
- And IMHO the 4.0-greens (either this in the half circle or in the 
splashscreen) don't look good with any of our branding greens and so 
especially the community brochure [1] have a substantial problem by 
using the official logo with the LibO-green and the 4.0-splashgreen.
The last two points are (my personal opinion) "mistakes" of the 
marketing/website team and! the design team. And we all will get more 
and more problems with it if we don't solve it. But this should be 
another thread.

[...]
(I deleted my last sentence. If you are interested I can send it per PM.)


As it should be a professional and official brochure anyone should ask a 
professional designer what he thinks about it.



[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-A4.odt


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[libreoffice-design] Need a small graphic for the General Information brochure

2013-05-19 Thread Marc Paré
In our "General Information" brochure[1], we (the marketing team) break 
some sections of text with a line that is made up of " ≈ " 
(tilde's). However, when we go to print, some printers interpret this 
line as a group of tilde's separated by micro-blank-space between each 
tilde OR other printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's but 
grouped together as one wavy line.


We should really be using a nice graphic to separate these sections. 
Would anyone on the design team have a good graphic that we could use 
instead of this line? We could then use the same graphic in all of our 
brochure-types that we are planning to write up.


The marketing team would really appreciate it if you could take a look 
at the brochure and see if you would have any suggestion(s) for a 
graphic replacement.


Cheers,

Marc

[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-OfficialBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr.odt



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