Hi Jared, all, I'll try to structure this mail a bit better, so people don't have to read the entire thread in order to learn to know who wants and proposes what...
[... and I remove one or another part ...] Jared wrote: > [...] Christoph Noack wrote: >> >> [...] >> Am Samstag, den 12.03.2011, 10:29 +0100 schrieb Cesare Leonardi: >>> On 12/03/2011 00:16, Shawn Thompson wrote: >>>> On the topic of this, I had actually proposed an entire redesign of the >>>> installer system in a much earlier post, but in discussions on IRC I was >>>> informed that making alternate UI's for Windows Installer systems is a >>>> pretty difficult task. >>> >>> I've serarched your post since i wasn't subscribed in January. >>> For the reference here is the interesting Shawn's post: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/design@libreoffice.org/msg00461.html >> >> Oh, yes, some post I've missed to reply to ... sorry! But replies from >> my side don't help to gain developers, I assume ;-) >> >>> [..] >>> Windows indeed needs some love. ;-) >> >> True, and I think it would help both developers and "us" to better >> understand what's going on and what can be improved (easily). The >> "temporary folder issue" is a great example ... and there might be more. >> Not only on Windows, but also on other platforms. To be honest, I don't >> even know how a full installation looks like on the Mac ... Please see the link to our homepage below ;-) >> >> Since I think that the initial contact (installation plus first start) >> is a very important thing for users - because it needs to be as hazzle >> free as possible. +1 >> So, how about to look at the full installation process >> (download to first start of LibO)? Would it be possible that you start a >> wiki page and put in some information (screenshots, steps required, >> weird experiences)? I think that would help a lot to request help and to >> get an idea what "sucks". >> >> Some time ago, the OpenOffice.org UX team did something similar, but I >> don't know the current differences to LibO ... here are the pages: >> >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Projects/Setup_Process short like the description on our homepage >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Projects/Start-up_process much more details and reasons / questions about the process: We should start with theses questions and try to handle them. >> >> [...] >> >> Concerning the entries in the Quickstarter - this is a bigger topic, >> since the inconsistency is also visible in the options, the menu bar, >> the Start Center, the ... To me, it leads to the major questions if the >> old decision to "separate OOo and highlight individual applications" is >> still valid. We need to discuss this topic thoroughly - including marketing experts (comparability to MS Office, integrated approach as marketing strategy etc). >> This is already part of my "important questions to be >> resolved for the work by the Design Team" questions list. [...] Great - so it will not be forgotten :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Christoph > Where would you like to see a wiki page created exactly? > > I can at least post some screenshots of Windows and MacOS. > > under: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install_Process-Windows ?? > under: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Install_and_Setup-Windows ?? > As this discussion relates to creating an improvement to the present state your description and screenshots would not be the main part of the wiki page, but only a starting point. And please have a look at the homepage: We already have screenshots of the present installing process: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/windows/ http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/mac/ Working on an improvement should be done on a design page, so /Design/Install_and_Setup should be more appropriate. I don't know at the moment, if the website team agreed upon using categories only for the wiki structure (like wikipedia), in this case we could skip /Design too and categorize the page with [[Category:Design]]. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
