Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Slight reordering of Impress/Draw context menu

2011-06-26 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Astron,

Sorry for bothering, I got stuck in a major traffic jam without access to specs 
and the tracker, so ...

Have you looked at the OOo menu specs with regard to consistency (especially 
Draw, but also other LibO applications) between different menus? Sometimes 
there are rare/hidden entries that need to be considered.

Futhermore (as far as I remember) there is a inconsistency bug with regard to 
the position of copy/cut/paste. Is this covered as well?

Thanks for taking care!!!

Oh, by the way - does anybody know how the doc team gets informed about such 
changes?

Cheers,
Christoph (152 km to go ... and wait *g*)
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Astron heinzless...@googlemail.com schrieb:

Hello again.
I know this isn't anything too crazy, but nonetheless it's a usability
niggle that should be easy to resolve. So, I've opened the bug now.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38671

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Slight reordering of Impress/Draw context menu

2011-06-26 Thread Astron
Hi Christoph and André,

André, thanks for checking that everything looks normal. Tomorrow I'll
subscribe to ux-advise (not today— have other stuff to do still).

Christoph, take care yourself, don't text and drive :) .
Copy/Cut/Paste are not not defined at this point in the code and are
probably appended dynamically to the context menu. So, I don't think I
could change the position of these items (or even remove the separator
from before them).
The only item which is not permanently shown in the menu seems to be
the Leave Group item (for grouped objects) – I have no idea how LibO
decides whether or not to show this, since there is no if block around
it... It hopefully still works.
I haven't taken a look at specs. Please point me to them when you have time to.

Astron.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Slight reordering of Impress/Draw context menu

2011-06-26 Thread André Schnabel
Hi,

Am 26.06.2011 19:17, schrieb Astron:
 Copy/Cut/Paste are not not defined at this point in the code and are
 probably appended dynamically to the context menu. So, I don't think I
 could change the position of these items (or even remove the separator
 from before them).

Yes - a Separator/Paste group will be added dynamically (if there is
something in the clipboard). You will not see the Copy/Cut items, as we
are in a no selection menu.

 The only item which is not permanently shown in the menu seems to be
 the Leave Group item (for grouped objects) – I have no idea how LibO
 decides whether or not to show this, since there is no if block around
 it... It hopefully still works.

It works and is also dynamically displayed. Once you entered a group and
rightclick somwhere (not on one of the group objects) you will get an
additional Separator/Exit Group element.

regards,

André

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[libreoffice-design] Re: Slight reordering of Impress/Draw context menu

2011-06-25 Thread Astron
Hello again.
I know this isn't anything too crazy, but nonetheless it's a usability
niggle that should be easy to resolve. So, I've opened the bug now.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38671

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Slight reordering of Impress/Draw context menu

2011-06-25 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Astron,

Am 25.06.2011 18:17, schrieb Astron:
 Hello again.
 I know this isn't anything too crazy, but nonetheless it's a usability
 niggle that should be easy to resolve. So, I've opened the bug now.
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38671


I'm neither UI expert nor experienced developer at LibO - but I can
confirm that the suggested source modification works. (Means: LibO can
still be built and the menues changed as expected in Draw and Impress).
I would not expect side effects, as you just reordered the menu items.

Maybe it's better to subscribe to
libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org and ask for further feedback
/ some developer to commit the change.


regards,

André

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