Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Hi Michel, hi all! Am Dienstag, den 29.03.2011, 15:25 +0200 schrieb Michel RENON: Le 17/03/11 00:16, Christoph Noack a écrit : Am Donnerstag, den 10.03.2011, 02:00 +0100 schrieb Michel RENON: Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) I just made an update to my proposals : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Proposals_by_Michel_Renon Excellent, thanks! :-) When looking at the recent page content, it seems that many of the questions are process related (when to talk with whom, who does what, when is something required ...). Concerning the kick-off, adding stuff to this page seemed to run into some kind of saturation ... or the other way round: there are lots and lots of thoughts that should be sorted and rated. Thus, if nobody disagrees, I'd like to continue. Anybody who wants to give it a (first) try? PS: Michel, your entry seems to be missing on the team page. After reading your thoughts, it seems that you have to stay with us ;-) done ! Cool, thanks! Veeery interesting ... Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Le 17/03/11 00:16, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi Michel, sorry for not answering until now ... but today I'm happy to do it :-) Am Donnerstag, den 10.03.2011, 02:00 +0100 schrieb Michel RENON: Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) I just took some time to add some proposals in this page. (feel free to move text if necessary) Very cool stuff, thank you! Personally, I'd love to comment some of your thoughts (which means full agreement) ... but I better wait a bit longer until more people joined to add their thoughts. And to be honest, I didn't want to look at your text in detail until being able to add my points - somehow helps me to stay focused. But now it seems that we have a very similar understanding (but addressed some unique items as well): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Proposals_by_Christoph_Noack And, you've added cool pictures by the way. The first one (shower faucet) was new to me - and is just amazing :-) Thanks a lot ! Very nice welcome, I'm feeling proud ! I just made an update to my proposals : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Proposals_by_Michel_Renon PS: Michel, your entry seems to be missing on the team page. After reading your thoughts, it seems that you have to stay with us ;-) done ! Michel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Hi all, I just added some thoughts to the page. Best, Björn Am Freitag, 4. März 2011, 23:58:20 schrieb Christoph Noack: Dear Design Team, a few days ago, we've presented us to the rest of the (LibreOffice) world. Now it's time to go to the next step ... organizing our work. Here and there, I've already noticed some questions with regard to how people expect we work, and what we might need to work efficiently and effectively. Some examples (as far as I remember): * Marc asked how we can be triggered to create artwork, and how we make sure that these visual designs are approved. * Rainer/Petr had the idea to involve us concerning a behavioral question. That's great - but this should be too incidentally :-) * Nik asked for a motif (he already kicked of that effort, but anyway) and proposed to highlight long-term contributors to better guide the team * ... So, how can we do that? Personally, I'd like you to speak up first. What are your experiences until now? What did you learn in other FLOSS projects? What do you miss ... I've created a new wiki page for that - please feel free to add your thoughts. I also provided a more extensive introduction and a proposal for the text steps along with some roughly guessed times: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) Cheers, Christoph PS: And as usual, the Design Team Kick-Off Overview Wiki page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off -- Voluntary Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenUsability.org Commercial Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenSource-Usability-Labs.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Hi Björn, thanks for adding your stuff - and I hope everybody noticed the great blog posting Björn wrote some days ago :-) Today, I don't feel that well, therefore I won't be able to work on the page ... sorry for that! Cheers, Christoph Am Montag, den 21.03.2011, 16:47 +0100 schrieb Björn Balazs: Hi all, I just added some thoughts to the page. Best, Björn Am Freitag, 4. März 2011, 23:58:20 schrieb Christoph Noack: Dear Design Team, a few days ago, we've presented us to the rest of the (LibreOffice) world. Now it's time to go to the next step ... organizing our work. Here and there, I've already noticed some questions with regard to how people expect we work, and what we might need to work efficiently and effectively. Some examples (as far as I remember): * Marc asked how we can be triggered to create artwork, and how we make sure that these visual designs are approved. * Rainer/Petr had the idea to involve us concerning a behavioral question. That's great - but this should be too incidentally :-) * Nik asked for a motif (he already kicked of that effort, but anyway) and proposed to highlight long-term contributors to better guide the team * ... So, how can we do that? Personally, I'd like you to speak up first. What are your experiences until now? What did you learn in other FLOSS projects? What do you miss ... I've created a new wiki page for that - please feel free to add your thoughts. I also provided a more extensive introduction and a proposal for the text steps along with some roughly guessed times: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) Cheers, Christoph PS: And as usual, the Design Team Kick-Off Overview Wiki page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off -- Voluntary Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenUsability.org Commercial Open Source Usability: http://www.OpenSource-Usability-Labs.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
I added some thoughts, too (see the what we might need-section). One important thing I thought would come in handy would be a way to create polls in the wiki. 2011/3/17 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@pt-global.com Hi. This is excellent work. This adds to the feeling well governed product development and provides a user with confidence and they can really see where things are going. The inclusion of bug processing is good as I had wondered how bugs were prioritised and moved through design to resolution. Cheers steve On 17/03/11 12:16, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Michel, sorry for not answering until now ... but today I'm happy to do it :-) Am Donnerstag, den 10.03.2011, 02:00 +0100 schrieb Michel RENON: Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) I just took some time to add some proposals in this page. (feel free to move text if necessary) Very cool stuff, thank you! Personally, I'd love to comment some of your thoughts (which means full agreement) ... but I better wait a bit longer until more people joined to add their thoughts. And to be honest, I didn't want to look at your text in detail until being able to add my points - somehow helps me to stay focused. But now it seems that we have a very similar understanding (but addressed some unique items as well): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Proposals_by_Christoph_Noack And, you've added cool pictures by the way. The first one (shower faucet) was new to me - and is just amazing :-) So guys, you have the following options, please: * add some more thoughts, or ... * ask for more clarification (if items are not that clear), or ... * tell me that you think we're done (means: no more items expected, but removing items possible in the next steps) After that, we'll have a look at the items (valid or not, required or not, ...) and on the structure/grouping. Please consider to spend some time on it (even minutes will help), since this might be our groundwork for the next months (or maybe years). Thanks! Cheers, Christoph PS: Michel, your entry seems to be missing on the team page. After reading your thoughts, it seems that you have to stay with us ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Hi Michel, sorry for not answering until now ... but today I'm happy to do it :-) Am Donnerstag, den 10.03.2011, 02:00 +0100 schrieb Michel RENON: Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) I just took some time to add some proposals in this page. (feel free to move text if necessary) Very cool stuff, thank you! Personally, I'd love to comment some of your thoughts (which means full agreement) ... but I better wait a bit longer until more people joined to add their thoughts. And to be honest, I didn't want to look at your text in detail until being able to add my points - somehow helps me to stay focused. But now it seems that we have a very similar understanding (but addressed some unique items as well): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Proposals_by_Christoph_Noack And, you've added cool pictures by the way. The first one (shower faucet) was new to me - and is just amazing :-) So guys, you have the following options, please: * add some more thoughts, or ... * ask for more clarification (if items are not that clear), or ... * tell me that you think we're done (means: no more items expected, but removing items possible in the next steps) After that, we'll have a look at the items (valid or not, required or not, ...) and on the structure/grouping. Please consider to spend some time on it (even minutes will help), since this might be our groundwork for the next months (or maybe years). Thanks! Cheers, Christoph PS: Michel, your entry seems to be missing on the team page. After reading your thoughts, it seems that you have to stay with us ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Hi. This is excellent work. This adds to the feeling well governed product development and provides a user with confidence and they can really see where things are going. The inclusion of bug processing is good as I had wondered how bugs were prioritised and moved through design to resolution. Cheers steve On 17/03/11 12:16, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Michel, sorry for not answering until now ... but today I'm happy to do it :-) Am Donnerstag, den 10.03.2011, 02:00 +0100 schrieb Michel RENON: Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) I just took some time to add some proposals in this page. (feel free to move text if necessary) Very cool stuff, thank you! Personally, I'd love to comment some of your thoughts (which means full agreement) ... but I better wait a bit longer until more people joined to add their thoughts. And to be honest, I didn't want to look at your text in detail until being able to add my points - somehow helps me to stay focused. But now it seems that we have a very similar understanding (but addressed some unique items as well): http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Proposals_by_Christoph_Noack And, you've added cool pictures by the way. The first one (shower faucet) was new to me - and is just amazing :-) So guys, you have the following options, please: * add some more thoughts, or ... * ask for more clarification (if items are not that clear), or ... * tell me that you think we're done (means: no more items expected, but removing items possible in the next steps) After that, we'll have a look at the items (valid or not, required or not, ...) and on the structure/grouping. Please consider to spend some time on it (even minutes will help), since this might be our groundwork for the next months (or maybe years). Thanks! Cheers, Christoph PS: Michel, your entry seems to be missing on the team page. After reading your thoughts, it seems that you have to stay with us ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: Organizing our Work (... causing some work for you *g*)
Hi, Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit : I've created a new wiki page for that - please feel free to add your thoughts. I also provided a more extensive introduction and a proposal for the text steps along with some roughly guessed times: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Introduction Any further thoughts on that topic? Speak up, please. This is your project! :-) I just took some time to add some proposals in this page. (feel free to move text if necessary) Michel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
