[libreoffice-design] [UI] [Idea] Improve display comments in LO Impress
Then introduce a small concept, otherwise to display the comments in LO Impress. Currently when viewing a Comment Impress (4.0.0.3), they appear as small boxes that when touched, expands showing a large picture on the slide that contains the content of the comment. Then you need to manually move to position in the sector indicated. This form is a bit outdated and unclear in terms of usability. I propose that the comments in LO Impress, are displayed as in LO Writer, or through a sidebar of the slide, where the comments are attached. The idea is to unify design and functionality in Impress and Writer (as the control and monitoring of comments in Writer is very good). So the improvements in how to handle comments in Writer, Impress would benefit, especially when selecting text (select ranges of text by attaching comments). The idea is also to attach comments implement other types of objects (videos, pictures, graphics, etc.). (see: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2 and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_Design_NoteAnchor#Proposal_.22Boxes_.28Note_Anchor_Area.29.22) Then: → The comments are grouped in a sidebar on the same slide (as in Writer) → It can attach comments to: - Text: Text Selection fullselect ranked or text box - Other objects (images, videos, graphics, etc.) but if you include text on the items, they may be selected. → Towards improved visualization of the slide, the lines connecting the selected text or object to comments will only be visible when you position the cursor over the comment (when this does not happen the text or object displays a line its outline with the color of the note comment) → Report slide contains comments (like when you have transitions or animations) in the slide sidebar.. → Include a field of insert comment in the context menu (enhancing usability) See: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61580 problems: Lateral space: The idea is that the comments are always visible. This always has a goal in mind that you must meet, something must change or be answered seg'un the case which would improve the workflow (how it works now Google Drive Presentation). However, this affects the lateral space available (more in-slide panoramic style). This can be easily solved (in my view) with two changes: 1. Decrease the size of the sidebar slideshow: Now consider occupying wider than what could be. Whereas sun functions are limited and quickly help visualize the disposition of the slides through thumbnails, not seriously affect the workflow decreasing its size (change that can be reversed by the user manually). 2. Transform the sidebar of tasks in a dynamic sidebar: By this I mean a behavior similar to the sidebar you currently have Office 2013. This Office sidebar only appears when it is invoked and can easily be hidden to give more space to display the slide. Currently in LO Impress sidebar force is always visible (and strangely available in other types of view, as handout or slide sorter). Then sidebar force could be hidden by default and appear as needed to operate it (improving the way as hidden as it is a feature that not many know today) This is the idea I wanted to present, and I hope to be considered, to be able to use the system in Impress Writer comments would be great and greatly improve teamwork under one presenación. Attached image (modest mockup) of the idea that I present. Hope comments and ideas for improvement. thanks -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] (Proposal) New design for the ruler in LibreOffice
The ruler in LibreOffice has a classic design, and the same design is used in Writer, Impress and Draw. Anyone who has used Calligra, iWork or software such as Inkscape or Scribus, you will see that the design of the ruler responds to a skeuomorph and is much more simple and practical than currently used in LibreOffice, especially in Impress and Draw. (It is easier to read and interpret). In the case of MS Visio, the ruler design is similar to that seen in Inkscape or Dia. For Word or PowerPoint, use of the ruler is provided with dynamic view of the exact measure of the section to change margins or automatic positioning measurements (millimeters, inches, etc.). In addition to increasing the functionality (especially in Draw), LibreOffice get a more modern look. Whereas it is not a priority, could the design team considered an improvement? Thanks Bastin Daz -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] (Proposal) New design for the ruler in LibreOffice
I attached images that exemplify the proposal. https://mega.co.nz/#F!RQskTLrI!u2HOUx6jGAReAGD8l7PmlA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: (Proposal) New design for the ruler in LibreOffice
Hi Stuart, thanks for your response. I understand what you say to me, however I will be more clear with what I propose. The current operation of the ruler in Writer comes from a typewriter, and since the creation of word processing (software) has become a standard feature. Using margins, tabs, etc. must be maintained, either for advanced users or users accustomed to these characteristics (its functions can be covered by other like styles). The following are the items that seem outdated. (I have not found information on their origin).The metric in the left margin is inverse, but the right margin shows the continuation of the central measure.Graduation measure is unclear (centimeter, inch, etc), the ruler is small and metric marks are central and small, and the numbers are large. In Word the rule is similar, but is still poorly visually clear. This is offset to show the real-time measurement moving margin lines or adjusting the metric markings (for higher precision). In our day few of us who have used a typewriter, beyond seeing them in photos or museums, so I think the design of a traditional tape measure is a good choice. ProposalKeep tabs, margin, etc. function legacy -WriterIncrease height ruler, put the metric markings on the bottom (graduation) and measure numbers at the top. (Like tape measure) -Writer, Impress, DrawThe measure of the rule is continuous (including margins) -Writer, Impress, Draw The last point is reaffirmed today the first use Pages (iWork). Using Pages, I realized that a child who has used a ruler (pocket), can understand the ruler in your word processor (without losing functionality).While my comments were about Writer, for Impress and Draw a ruler as proposed, would help greatly improve the workflow in such applications. I hope you understand, thank you. Bastin Daz On mar, oct 28, 2014 at 2:34 PM, V Stuart FooteVStuart.Foote@utsa.eduwrote: @Bastián, *, I've uploaded all your sample clips here to NabbleArchive-6638.ziphttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4127116/Archive-6638.zip WordPerfect, Papyrus, Scribus, Visio, Keynote, Inkscape, Dia, Caligra I really do not follow what you are suggesting as a change for LibreOffice'sruler(s). Our skeuomorph is drawn from an older manual typewriter--LeftRight marginare hard set by page layout.Then--per active paragraph--the paragraphindent (the top triangle),spacing before text and spacing after text (thebottom triangles), and tab stops (spacing linked to the space before orafter, of various formats--left, right, or decimal) are adjusted.But doingthis applying paragraph styles is much preferred because otherwise it isjust too dynamic. It would be nice to have better tool tips for each. But the function andappearance is correct. Also, I would love to have option of full length cross hairs for positioningand placement--as in a CAD program. But I really do not see any major inadequacies to the design as is.Couldyou please elaborate on what you'd like to improve through redesign? Regards, Stuart --View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Proposal-New-design-for-the-ruler-in-LibreOffice-tp4127065p4127116.htmlSent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.orgProblems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
El 10-11-2015 11:04, Cor Nouws escribió: If you talk redundancy, that could also be an argument to not at all have "Apply style" on the properties panel? Sure. The idea is to improve the panel of styles and formatting, and not add another way to apply styles to the properties panel - which seems to have - another goal. So for me, it would be better to remove "Applying Styles" on the properties panel. IMO the drop down "Apply Style" in the Formatting tool bar already is great. I do not say otherwise. it is convenient to operate in a toolbar, not in the sidebar, so I proposed a toolbar like google-docs. That is part of the discussion: as we do want to improve the use of styles, then offer them handsome in the Side Bar. Hence they appeared on the panel Properties in the first place. I understand, but I think is not the best approach. I see little relation - but that may change if I understand the idea better. I can hardly explain it better, but work is closely related as the selection in slide pane in Impress. No visual difference when you select and apply a style, that comes to confuse and really see if a style is applied. It's just a small way of improvement. Cheers --- Bastián Dïaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
@Pedro El 10-11-2015 12:41, Pedro Rosmaninho escribió: If you don't like it, fine. If other people prefer it and actually contribute based on their preferences then their opinion counts as much as your if you're a contributor. Please we contribute to the discussion. If you read my arguments, I know beyond liking or not liking that option. I do not say otherwise. it is convenient to operate in a toolbar, not in the sidebar, so I proposed a toolbar >>like google-docs. To you. Other people find it more convenient to operate in the Sidebar. I give strong preference to the Sidebar >because it uses space in my 16:9 displays a lot better than having 2 or 3 toolbars. So don't presume that your >way is the best just because you use more and then want to remove all other options. Again, if you read my arguments, you would know that: - I also strongly support the sidebar, however, it does not seem desirable to have "duplicate functions" for the styles in Writer documents. Therefore, I am in favor of improving the panel "Styles and Formatting" and not additionally add a dropdown menu to apply styles in the properties panel. (Redundant also considering adding a menu of styles in version 5.1). - I never mention use many toolbars, on the contrary I propose a single tool bar, similar to that used in google-docs. In that context a dropdown menu would be useful. The other tools appear depending on the context of use in the sidebar. - The current functions of styles in the properties panel seem limited. If you use styles actively, always you end up using the panel "Styles and Formatting". Should continue developing, we have the same functions in two different sections of the sidebar (property panel and panel styles and formatting), which to me seems inconvenient. Should continue developing, we have the same functions in two different sections of the sidebar (property panel and styles and formatting panel), which to me seems inconvenient. See: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Styles-menu.png @Pedro What do you think about that? Cheers --- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
El 10-11-2015 16:25, Joel Madero escribió: Hi All,l So either we improve current style dropdown in panel Properties considerably, maybe ending up removing S panel, or the other way round.. In any case: the better and more visible the use of styles, the more I applaud the solution :) Here here! I love the discussion and think that it should focus on exactly this point. The question should be both "how do we efficiently let current 'power users' use styles" AND "how do we inform current users about the power of styles - most notably, by making it as visible as possible." Keep up the great work. Thanks a million for all of your dedication/thoughtful suggestions. Best, Joel I was coming to a similar conclusion. I love the styles and formatting. I use it everyday and I would like the default panel in the sidebar (direct formatting could go in the toolbar, along with its own panel). My question is: Why not add the style dropdown menu in the panel of styles and formatting? proposal: - The dropdown menu can be positioned at the top or bottom of styles and formatting panel. - The drop-down menu will be sensitive categories (document styles, applied styles, custom styles, etc.) - (based on mockups) In a single panel (stack view?) Are displayed, the paragraph and character styles. In practice it would become very practical: a) at a glance would have available all paragraph and character styles. b) through the dropdown menu, based on categories would faster selection or specific styles. Use Case: An advanced user to create specific styles for a document beforehand, creating a template or a particular document. All paragraph and character styles are available at a glance, easy to customize or create styles for your document. Begin to write your document, you will have a quick way to apply styles via the dropdown menu. As the user created their styles of early, can Select the category "Custom Styles" and only see the styles created for that document. At the same time, the user have the other visible styles should create new or modify them. This approach maintains differentiated the properties panel (direct formatting) and panel styles and formatting. Cheers --- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
El 11-11-2015 07:17, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips escribió: You could consider deleting to 5.1? It is something that will be staying in the properties tab. It seems that with those words, does not give rise to any discussion. --- Bastián Dïaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
El 10-11-2015 20:06, Joel Madero escribió: As long as you don't remove it from the tool bar. The drop down holds the style used in re-styling a document >>and it is very quick to access during document processing, 2 clicks. In my use case I can't fit the side bar and >>having the panel open all the time in 3 documents obliterates the text I am trying to work on. Honestly - we can't cover every single corner caseThe UX team is responsible for thinking about the general needs of our users, corner cases (not saying yours definitely is) should be given the *option* to include things but we shouldn't force a million defaults on everyone just because certain users use LibreOffice in a very specific case (such as having three documents side by side open at a time) That being said, I leave this to the design/UX team to figure out. @steve I agree with Joel, I think the design team must choose a way to work with LO. Anyway, there's always space for personalization, and your case, you can disable the sidebar and customize toolbars. I think the current way of LibreOffice is the sidebar. We must take into account that most of the monitors used by the users have a 16: 9 ratioalso 3 major OS can use "workspaces" or other form of multitasking. I leave here the image of the mockup to which I referred: https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115020 Cheers --- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal (w/ links)
Wow. I hope this redesign is accepted by the design team for the 5.1 release. Is awesome. --- BASTIÁN DÍAZ https://telegram.me/diazbastian El 06-11-2015 21:16, Paulo José Amaro escribió: Hi everyone, Some years ago (2011) I did help the redesign of the mime type icons, just adding some effects to the original ones created mainly by Christoph Noack. More in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Paulojose [1] Since then I've been away from the LibreOffice design team, but today I had a feeling to resume my contribution work and to create a new version for these icons that I love so much. I tried to keep them close to the old ones in terms of shape and elements, just adapting some forms, colors, and the overall style. Above row are application icons, and below the template icons. Against a dark and a light background: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e4/Mime_Type_Icons_Redesign_Proposal_2015-11-06_v1_Dark_BG.png [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/b/b0/Mime_Type_Icons_Redesign_Proposal_2015-11-06_v1_Light_BG.png [3] Sorry if it's not appropriate for the current development time, I just wanna share it with you and put myself available to work again on the design team if you want me to. ^_^ Best Regards! -- Paulo José O. Amaro Links: -- [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Paulojose [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e4/Mime_Type_Icons_Redesign_Proposal_2015-11-06_v1_Dark_BG.png [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/b/b0/Mime_Type_Icons_Redesign_Proposal_2015-11-06_v1_Light_BG.png -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal (w/ links)
El 06-11-2015 22:48, Paulo José Amaro escribió: Thank you Bastián. Please reload the image_, _I just added the Math icon. @Paulo Thank you for your work. I have a question. Is this a conceptual proposal or are working on the complete replacement (16x16, 24x24, 32x32, etc.)? I have seen the workflow of design mailing list, and the team is busy improving usability aspect and graphics (especially completing the set of tango icons, breeze, etc.) among other things. I think it would be great if you could present a complete set, it would be easier to try and adopt it in LibreOffice, from my point of view is what was missing to complete the renewal of the release of version 5. Cheers --- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal (w/ links)
El 07-11-2015 00:29, Paulo José Amaro escribió: @Bastián I did these 128px versions as a conceptual proposal to discussion, but I'm available to keep going and redo another icons, or any design talks I'm able to. When you say "complete set", did you talk about redo all the interface icons? Because I like the current ones (http://blog.goranrakic.com/2013/05/try_the_new_flat_icon_set_for_libreoffice.html [1]). I meant only that the design team is working to complete the icon themes currently available. I'm thinking about creating all these https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg [2] Yes, I understand that part. Read below about the current work on the icons. * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay) + Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel) + Fast svg import hack working (Tomaz) + I hacked something similar in the past (Kendy) + icons rendered from svg's on LibreOffice startup + but had bad results :-( + LibreOffice not rendering in good enough quality... + but hopefully Tomaž has better experience / approach (Kendy) + Icons not appearing in help viewer's web view https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82149 + but fixed now - thanks Stephan! :-) + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014 + add a "extra large" entry + is this for hi-dpi? (Kendy) + no, it is for large screens, but not related to hi-dpi (Jay) + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay) + Samuel will look at one of them + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866 + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and put to images_tango.zip + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565 tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945 galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516 + Sifr & breeze for dark themes + bug report created (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632 + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž) + screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119614 + Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay) + but not enabled by default + images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlTjBkSlJOY01RV3M/view?usp=sharing + Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay) + Asking Gnome team for help with Tango (Jay) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162 + reached out to the Gnome people (Jay) + the recent Tango is a mixture of Gnome 2 Tango and Gnome 3 Adwaita (Jay) + hoping in some interest there - like there was with Breeze (Jay) + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + First batch of 32px icons added (Jay) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19616/ + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + 32px icons completed (Andreas) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/LibreOffice/32px%20support/images_breeze.zip goes into /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/ ---- --- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal
El 07-11-2015 14:08, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos escribió: A gripe that I always had with the current LibreOffice icons is that document icons are not visually different from the application icons. Parabéns! Adolfo I share with you their appreciation. In this regard I have two suggestions. - Commonly in GNU/Linux systems are previews of LibreOffice files. Therefore, it is not so significant. - I think the mime type icons must be handled by the icon theme used in the system. For themes icons Breeze and Adwaita, there are icons for mime type and "share design" with the icon theme included in LibreOffice. For other OS, they may include the mime type icons corresponding to the default theme in LO. The idea is that these will always be generic icon (For the ability to open legacy files in LO). Cheers --- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diazbastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Use Sifr icons on Impress presenter console
Hello ... I read a lot about the work on increasing the scope of Sifr and Breeze icons, along with a version for dark themes. It would be very interesting to see sifr-like icons in the Impress presenter console.It helps to get an interesting renewal and unify the design style in LibreOffice (Sifr is based on tango symbolic style). Maybe they can use sifr/breeze variants according set of icons that the user chooses. Cheers -- Bastián Díaz -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
Hello, Reviewing future changes in LO 5.1, I learned that a menu styles are included. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/fa/Styles-menu.png It seems fantastic that decision, but revives my doubts about the inclusion some time ago of a dropdown menu of basic styles in the properties tab on the sidebar. What is its purpose or use cases? I in most cases I turn to tab styles, and in the case of using the dropdown menu, go to "more styles" recursively. As an element in the toolbar seemed interesting and useful, but now I do not see it necessary. If a adds style menu, I see this redundant feature. A user can open styles from a keyboard shortcut, go to the tab styles and use menu styles. For me the choice of styles in the property tabs is unnecessary, in addition to providing a poor experience. You could consider deleting to 5.1? Cheers -- Bastián Díaz -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The style drop down menu in properties tab (sidebar) is redundant and unnecessary
El 18-10-2015 05:28, Cor Nouws escribió: Hi all, Incidentally I thought about this control this morning (we looked at it at a NL_LibreOffice meeting yesterday). I like the current improvement and think it can be extended, so that in the side bar you can chose (at least): - show (thus edit) properties of style or text as displayed. and (maybe): - allow choosing paragraph or character styles (or all styles) with the little icons, as in the styles and formatting panel.. and when we are that far ... also choose between style properties and style list... It looks very interesting, but again I think you try to add a new way of "apply styles". So I think I would support redundant and improve the current tab of styles and formatting on the sidebar. On the other hand, I do not dismiss the idea. You can use improved drop-down menu in the toolbar (perhaps a new toolbar styles) or include it in a mad idea of single toolbar, google docs-style. Of course then we need more vertical space (extra controls above the styles drop down, and a separator below + an indicator showing: edit style properties / edit text (direct) formatting or somesuch. Then the whole panel could maybe renamed from "- Properties" to "- Formatting", the upper sub panel "- Styles" and the next one (below a new 'separator' "- Properties". It seems that mine may be a false impression, but with the use of IT sidebar, relate the "Properties" tab with "direct formatting" contrary to the tabs "Styles and Formatting" with ... styles. I would not want it to break. This would improve working with styles. You see immediately what you're changing. Right, but the sidebar has a different workflow. Not always visible and also the same tab, the contents of the sidebar can be hidden. For these cases kept the formatting toolbar, but it is better to renew the sidebar. See: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94427 (Additional notes - the only reason I have a toolbar active, is that I can see/use the "Apply style" list. ditto. If that's your approach, you might want an improvement in the toolbar. docs google toolbar for LibreOffice. - would be great if that control in side bar could (eventually) also be accessed with Ctrl+F11. ) Ideas? I bet to keep the properties tab with direct formatting options (tell me if this notion is wrong) and improve the workflow tab of Styles and Formatting. Add styles control in the properties tab is redundant and does not seem a good idea to improve it. I have the same sense of purpose regarding the drop-down menu in the toolbar, but I only used as "indicator" style currently used ... nothing more. ideas Styles and Formatting sidebar: - Add changed styles in the list of custom styles. If I take a default style and make modifications for use in the document, it is not considered in the list of custom styles. I usually use show Custom Styles to have the complete list of styles that will use the document (applied or not), but the default styles that have been modified not listed (so I think new styles for all). Cheers - Cor NB Thanks for asking Bastián, was on my mind already a long time that I wanted to work on clearer ideas for this subject. Now thanks to the meeting yesterday and your question it just happened :) PS I know there is an issue for this. But I'm a sort of finishing stuff before a week holiday. So leave the idea here.) -- Cor Nouws Thanks for your attention -- Bastián Díaz https://telegram.me/diaz_bastian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Share 3D models in the new web site for templates and extensions
Hello, I have understood that the design team has been working on a redesign for the website of extensions and templates for LibreOffice. I wonder if it is possible to add a section to share 3D models for use in Impress. This feature has been added since LO 4.3, and from my point of view has great potential in education. Unfortunately, it is not easy to get 3D models and not all have the ability to create our own. With a section so the community could exchange and improve available 3D models. Cheers -- Bastián Díaz -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Redesign of user data (contact data)
Hi all. I would like to know what you think of adding new fields in the user data on the preferences panel LibreOffice. For some cases, this information is sufficient, however, there is information that now is the time necessary to add, as the website of the company or user, IM, another e-mail, etc. Proposal: * Clearly divided information for work/business and personal information * Web page: Work and personal * Add Internet telephony (VoIP / SIP): Work and personal * Add Instant messaging: Work and personal * Email: Work and personal * etc The idea is to update information based on the data that is used for users today. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New default fonts
El 13-02-2016 16:18, Heiko Tietze escribió: On Saturday, 13 February 2016 16:12:44 CET Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: Hi All, During this week's design meeting, the discussion about changing the default font in Impress to Source Sans Pro (tdf#97577) was discussed further and i felt that changing the default font in only one app isnt good when we are trying to bring more and more consistency between apps and suggested we change the default in all the apps. If we change the default font then in all apps, yes. And Source Pro is really nice, without prefering it over the other cadidates. However I'm in the interoperability camp. Changing font that potentially affects existing documents and leads to inconsitencies in competing products is not user friedly. Unless we ask for confirmation to update the font. I have a dialog in mind that tells the user what's new and asks for confirmation to updated options (we had the same issue for the menu configuration that couldn't be overridden when individualized). Heiko's comment makes sense. Interoperability is an important pillar which should be maintained, especially for those users who do not make major changes to create/edit a document. For a more advanced user is provided the ability to change the font or install new to the system. Based on my experience as a user I propose the following (always works): - For libreOffice Writer/Calc --> Google croscore fonts Caladea and Carlito they have the same metric as the default font used in Microsoft Office. - For libreOffice Impress/Draw --> DejaVu font family DejaVu fonts are installed by default on most OS also is a font with very good display on monitors. Wide range in Unicode support and several useful styles, for example to create a presentation. If not the case, Carlito font could do the job. note: I think it should be consistency between the default font in LO and the font used in the default templates in LibreOffice. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
