Re: [Snowdrift-design] PSA: I assume you're also on the snowdrift discuss mailing list

[Stephen Michel]

To the discuss list and anyone reading this in the archive: this is 
cross-posted to the other lists.


On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Stephen Michel 
 wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Peter Harpending 
 wrote:

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 06:48:58PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote:
 Attached is a little diagram of how I think of the mailing list 
membership.


 I don't believe there's anything official about how they're set 
up, but
 you'll still possibly miss info if you're not on a higher-level 
mailing
 list. I'd also *like* to make that view of the mailing lists 
official, in

 the future.

 Cheers,
 Stephen


Most of the discuss list (recently, at least) is about stuff I don't
care about [...] [and] there have been 48 messages in March alone.

If you would like me (and I assume many of us) to subscribe to the
discuss list, it needs to be about things of general interest


I agree with all of this. Specifically:

1) The umbrella list should be low-traffic.
2) The umbrella list should be about things that are relevant to 
*everybody* who cares about snowdrift.coop.
3) The recent stuff about meetings and governance/operations needs 
its own list.


I will endeavor to post less frequently to the discuss list, until we 
have a better solution.


An update! We found an old, hidden mailing list that was no longer in 
use: t...@lists.snowdrift.coop. It has been re-purposed into an open 
but moderated list for operational discussions, including meetings, 
governance (Holacracy), and project management. This should cut down 
significantly on the amount of traffic on the discuss mailing list, and 
the traffic that remains should be more relevant to anyone interested 
in Snowdrift.coop -- for example, it's where we announced that we have 
moved our wiki [0], ticketing system [1], and git repo [2] to new 
locations.


I hope this makes the discuss list more appealing to be signed up for, 
which will in turn make it a more useful place to have universally 
relevant conversations.


Cheers,
Stephen

[0]: http://wiki.snowdrift.coop/
[1]: https://tree.taiga.io/project/snowdrift/
[2]: https://git.snowdrift.coop/groups/sd
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Re: [Snowdrift-design] PSA: I assume you're also on the snowdrift discuss mailing list

[Stephen Michel]

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Peter Harpending 
 wrote:

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 06:48:58PM -0400, Stephen Michel wrote:
 Attached is a little diagram of how I think of the mailing list 
membership.


 I don't believe there's anything official about how they're set up, 
but
 you'll still possibly miss info if you're not on a higher-level 
mailing
 list. I'd also *like* to make that view of the mailing lists 
official, in

 the future.

 Cheers,
 Stephen


Hello,

I assuredly don't speak for everyone. However, I think I could provide
for a case study. I have no interest in design or law, so I'm not
subscribed to those lists.

Most of the discuss list (recently, at least) is about stuff I don't
care about, like governance, holacracy, meetings, events, etc. 
Moreover,

the messages occur very frequently, so it's difficult to ignore
them. There have been 48 messages in March alone. Hence, I don't
subscribe to the discuss list.

If you would like me (and I assume many of us) to subscribe to the
discuss list, it needs to be about things of general interest, that
concern the majority of the community. Stuff about governance, 
meetings,

project management, and what not should go in its own mailing list.

Peter Harpending


I agree with all of this. Specifically:

1) The umbrella list should be low-traffic.
2) The umbrella list should be about things that are relevant to 
*everybody* who cares about snowdrift.coop.
3) The recent stuff about meetings and governance/operations needs its 
own list.


At the same time, it's silly to have a discussion that pertains to 
everybody in 4 different places because there's no good way to reach 
everyone. So when something like that comes up, I just send it to 
discuss and hope for the best.


..which is why I sent this email in the first place -- because I know 
there are people like yourself who are not on discuss (for whatever 
reason) and thus missing out on that type of email (like: should we 
switch from the mailing lists to Discourse? I personally want to do 
this, and soon; I think it'll solve the issues we're talking about here 
-- but I also want to give a chance for everybody to chime in).


I will endeavor to post less frequently to the discuss list, until we 
have a better solution.


I re-attached the picture from the original email, since I didn't 
originally send it to this (discuss) list.
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[Snowdrift-design] PSA: I assume you're also on the snowdrift discuss mailing list

[Stephen Michel]

Attached is a little diagram of how I think of the mailing list 
membership.


I don't believe there's anything official about how they're set up, but 
you'll still possibly miss info if you're not on a higher-level mailing 
list. I'd also *like* to make that view of the mailing lists official, 
in the future.


Cheers,
Stephen
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