[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Saïvann : It's not only up to xserver-xorg to fix this. There is an independent Freedesktop specification outlining how the clipboard works. It says clearly that all applications, when quitting should export the clipboard contents to the global clipboard. xserver-xorg actually adheres to the specification properly. It's actually everything else which are behaving incorrectly (a couple of them actually already work properly). So I wouldn't say that it's up to xserver-xorg to break the spec and fix this. If anything, maybe the spec should be improved, then xserver-xorg will be obliged to fix the behaviour. However I never felt technically comfortable enough to start a discussion on the Freedesktop mailing list since I don't feel I understand the underlying issues well enough. That being said, if the Canonical usability decided to focus on the clipboard for a release, the absolute bare-minimum that they would do would be to correct the behaviour of all applications installed by default. This would be a massive improvement already. They would probably also work with the Freedesktop spec in order to improve it (as they did with the notification area and are doing with the application indicators). Who knows, with any luck they could improve the clipboard beyond how it is implemented in Windows/Mac. One thing that stands out to me, is that there are no launchpad bugs for each independent application linked to this one. Someone should really go and find/submit the related bugs and link them to this one. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Look it's open-source. It's an open-source development model. That's how it works. Why do you have to rant and rave on a technical bugtracker about a development model that clearly doesnt satisfy your expectations? Perhaps open-source just isn't for you. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I didn't even read his post cuz he's just ranting. This is not the place to rant. If ranting actually got any results, then I would be ranting myself. The reason I use Ubuntu is because despite the (admittedly) really shitty bus like this one, I still prefer it to Windows and Mac OS X is too expensive. Not only that, but the fact that it's open-source inherently means that you can never be locked-in, and that's the killer feature for me. It may be shit, and these bugs may be fail, but at least I have the option to use something else if I ever do get annoyed enough. Don't get me wrong, these bugs are bad, but Ubuntu has a lot of great things going for it too. I'm really enjoying the lightweightedness and the super fast startup. I love VLC, and MythTV and the fact I've been able to customize the shit out of it. I also firmly believe that one day this bug will actually be fixed.. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Dan, Interesting question. As we probably all know, Canonical have been pushing a usability drive, which is led by Mark Shuttleworth. This has produced the FUSA applet (which was developed for 8.10), the notification area overhaul (included in 9.04), the theme updates (9.10) and we have the MeMenu and some other stuff due out with Lucid. These initiatives seem to be directed by Mark Shuttleworth and he decides what is prioritized and focused on in every release. I would assume that he will eventually come round to addressing the clipboard at some point. Perhaps it's worth bringing it to his attention. Most of the discussion seems to happen within the Ayatana project, so that may be a good place to start if you're interested in making some noise :) -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Installing glipper or parcellite by default is not a fix, if we did that, then we wouldn't have solved the problem that the specification itself was designed to solve. And the real reason this bug is not a papercut because it is not trivial. If it was trivial then someone would have fixed it already. Every bug comes down to a cost-benefit balance. If the cost of fixing it is more than just living with it for every person, IT DOESN'T GET DONE. A lot of you are asking stupid questions.. why isnt it fixed, blah blah blah, whine whine. Well it's simple, in the same way that the cost of you learning how to program, studying the spec and implementing a fix isn't worth your time (or money), then for exactly the same reason no other dev has done it either. Until someone has the necessary experience, time, or motivation to fix this, it will just sit waiting. The occasional reminder on the bug report is fine, but please, the best thing you can do is start learning to code and maybe a few years down the line you'll be able to write the patch yourself if it's so important to you. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Well, it looks like some nice developer has volunteered his time to the Mozilla suite to fix this bug (iirc), and progress is being made to fix this for Firefox. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 Also, please, less whining, and more contributing. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] Re: rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
I don't run a command, I put in the CD in the drive and an autorun dialog pops up on the desktop which defaults to open the cd with rhythmbox. Clicking OK opens rhythmbox, but the focus isnt on the cd, but on the library. I haven't changed anything in my settings, this is default Intrepid behaviour. -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] Re: rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
** Changed in: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Also affects: nautilus Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: nautilus Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] Re: rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
Sorry about that, I guess I should have commented. I emailed desktop-devel-discuss to see what package this should go since it's not actually a problem with rhythmbox and someone said that the autorun dialog is a part of nautilus, so the bug should go to nautilus. I believe this is an issue upstream, and will file a bug upstream when I get some time. ** Changed in: nautilus Status: Invalid = New -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] Re: rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Undecided = Unknown Bugwatch: None = GNOME Bug Tracker #530055 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) Status: New = Unknown -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] Re: rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
Actually, I've just realized that this bug is within Ubuntu, and not rhythmbox itself. Running 'rhythmbox file:///dev/scd0' starts up rhythmbox with the selected pane on the Audio CD as expected. This means that the issue isn't with rhythmbox, but with the way Ubuntu auto-runs the cd. This is easily fixable by running a manual command, entering the rhythmbox command above and setting that as the default action when a cd is inserted. However, this should be fixed by default within Ubuntu itself. -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] Re: rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #561795 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561795 ** Also affects: rhythmbox via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561795 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to rhythmbox in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 299395] [NEW] rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: rhythmbox When you insert an audio cd, the auto-run dialog comes up asking if I want to open it with Rhythmbox as default. Clicking OK, opens Rhythmbox, but the default display is on my Library, and not on the Audio CD. Ideally, Rhythmbox should open on the Audio CD pane, displaying the cd's track-listings. Running Intrepid. ** Affects: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- rhythmbox doesn't go directly to track-listing when autostarted by inserting an audio cd https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/299395 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to rhythmbox in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
