Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-18 Thread John Baer
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jan Bakuwel
160...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote:

 Hi all,

   I don't want to see this fixed because it works that way in Windows. I
  want to see it fixed because it is logical to want it to work this way.
  I do not think it is too much to ask for an advanced operating system to
  be adapted to the way users use it, instead of forcing users to adapt to
  the way it was programmed. (or deficiency thereof) In this case, it is
  just the software not keeping up with hardware's advances, and this bug
  should be able to be remedied instead of the feature killed off.
 

 You're right of course, this has nothing to do with how Windows works.
 Except perhaps that Windows, Mac and Linux all share the same concepts
 of working with a keyboard, mouse and screen.

 When touch screens become main stream are we going to say that users
 should figure out which theme matches the thickness of their fingers or
 else they won't be able to comfortably and intuitively with the system?

 I'm surprised to read the debate is still going on. The way it currently
 works is simply not ergonomic nor intuitive.

 All themes (well especially those that come standard with Ubuntu) should
 support easy resizing of windows, ie. it should be fixed independently
 of themes. I surely don't consider this fixed or mute by adding a
 hidden option somewhere in 10.10.

 I'd also like to suggest that it gets fixed in Ubuntu 10.04 as that is a
 LTS release.

 thanks,
 Jan

 Jan,

I can certainly see your point but it is important to consider there is risk
to any solution implemented.

For example if Metacity is changed to satisfy this requirement how will the
solution work with Compbiz?

Will the border be too large at lower resolutions?

What about Gnome shell?

Cheers,

John

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Re: [Bug 160311] Re: Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more comments; patches welcome]

2010-10-17 Thread John Baer
I was unaware of the menu choices presented by right-clicking the title
bar. :(  That's not a technical issue, that's a training issue.

In my opinion the resize option is very usable and makes this bug
mute.

Would usability improve if folks were encouraged to right-click the title
bar by disabling the window border grab feature?

John

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