[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2022-05-28 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #1771600
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1771600

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2022-05-28 Thread Anonymous
Sorry, it is the XA_PRIMARY not the XA_CLIPBOARD (confused both): here
is the new bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1771600

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2022-05-28 Thread Emilio
(In reply to Martin from comment #57)
> This Problem still exists in Firefox 100 and Ubuntu 22.04 for me.

Please file a new bug with details. It might be a Snap issue, but
reopening a 17 year old bug is probably not the way to go :)

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2022-05-28 Thread Anonymous
Please reopen, thanks.

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[Bug 11334]

2022-05-28 Thread Anonymous
This Problem still exists in Firefox 100 and Ubuntu 22.04 for me.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2019-04-09 Thread mray
** Tags added: bug-migration

** Changed in: inkscape
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2018-04-18 Thread Kip Warner
I'm predicting riots in response to the most recent status update.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2018-04-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gtk
   Status: Incomplete => Expired

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2018-02-10 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gtk
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2017-09-12 Thread Colin Watson
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2017-08-08 Thread David
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[Bug 11334] ✔Re: what do you think?

2017-08-08 Thread Bartolomeo Nicolotti
Greetings,


Do you know what I've just found on the internet? You're going to be surprised, 
just check it out here https://is.gd/kXl2ER


Rushing, Bartolomeo Nicolotti


From: Bug 11334 [mailto:11...@bugs.launchpad.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:07 AM
To: bart.nicolo...@libero.it
Subject: Askren gunna Askren bro.

E...


Based on how out-of-nowhere it was, and how such a question doesn't make sense 
unless you know the person has been  doing some computer setup  recently, I'm 
betting OP had  a  facebook  status about setting  up a  new partition or 
something.

And in that context, asking about  how they went about it and  what
choices they made is a pretty  easy and low-stakes conversation.
Perfectly friendly and normal.

If this only had those  questions and not the rest of  the blubbering
nonsense,  I don't think  there would have been an  issue.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2017-08-03 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2017-08-01 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: tomboy
   Status: Confirmed => Unknown

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-12-01 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: tomboy
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-24 Thread JohnWashington
@Fred: yes, you're right, on Lubuntu I installed Parcellite and it
worked fine.  But, with respect, which clipboard manager to use is not
the point.  The point is that Ubuntu and its relatives should be
providing this functionality out of the box, not requiring users to
figure out what's needed themselves or requiring 100's of applications
all to implement functionality independently.

Perhaps some would say that this would add bloat to Ubuntu.  Well, that
would hardly be a first.  One doesn't use Ubuntu if something really
stripped down and minimal is called for, that niche is filled by plenty
of other distros, not least being Debian.

300+ comments and still no real progress.  What does it need to get
clipboard managers included in Ubuntu?  Not 'available' for the few who
know, but 'included' so that everyone benefits, even the absolute
beginners trying Linux for the first time?

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-20 Thread JohnWashington
@pander: Don't you think it's insane to suggest every one of 23 (or more
likely thousands) of applications need to implement this internally,
instead of a generic solution?

In Ubuntu Unity I find Diodon works well, it's completely solved the
problem on Unity for me.  But the user has to:

1. Realise there's a problem
2. Install diodon.

That too is insane.  Most users will get bitten numerous times before
they discover this solution, if at all.

On Lubuntu, diodon installed but didn't solve the problem.  I had to
google and find a different app.  More insanity.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-20 Thread Fred
@JohnWashington
Diodon seems to be explicitly for GNOME, hence does not work for Lubuntu which 
is based on LXDE rather than GNOME.
There are alternative similar software such as Glipper, Klipper and Parcellite, 
etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_manager#X_Window_System

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-20 Thread FMaz
Well until I can install an ISO of Ubuntu and, right out the box (ie.:
on the live CD), see that this problem no longer exist without requiring
any intervention from the end-user (such as guessing I was supposed to
install a software to get a basic OS functionnality to work as
expected), this bug is not to be marked as resolved.

This include copy/pasting any kind of content from and to any kind of
software.

If what ever software can fully resolve the issue, it should be included
in the distribution and activated by default. Until then, it is a waste
of time to ask for each user to install something themself.

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-20 Thread jjlorenzo
Totally agree​

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-20 Thread Pander
This bug from 2004 relates to 23 projects and is therefore listed 32
times in bug overviews.So, if possible, please set for your project this
to either won't fix or invalid or work towards fix released and close it
here. Thanks

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2016-01-15 Thread Flames_in_Paradise
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2015-09-12 Thread robbert
Andrei (andrei-doom) on 2015-09-07: #320

Exactly. This is the point I'm always trying to make when talking to
Linux or Ubuntu fanboys. To them it's like the holy grail in operating
systems, but come on... if you can't even implement a proper clipboard.
This problem has always existed. Even years before Ubuntu existed this
bug already existed. Linux has never had a proper clipboard and they
just refuse to fix this. To them it's just the way it was designed and
that's what we have to live with. You don't like it? Well, that's your
problem, because they don't give a shit. This is just fucking insane!
How can these guys even take themselves serious?

No wonder they can't get any market share. Who wants to use such crappy,
buggy, amateurish piece of useless shit? Come on. A clipboard is one of
the core elements of an operating system. This should never fail. It
should just work. You write some text in LibreOffice Writer, you copy
this text and you immediately close the app (because that's a completely
logical thing to do, because you don't need this source app anymore,
because you're going to paste your text somewhere else) and then you
can't paste it anymore, because there isn't anything to paste. You just
copied this piece of text ONE SECOND ago and it's already completely
lost, forever! What the fuck?!?!?! Even a child can understand this is
absolutely ridiculous and this can never be the way you want copy/paste
to work. Still the developers (if you can even call this bunch of
useless amateurs "developers") of Linux and Ubuntu and their blinded
fanboys don't see it as a problem and refuse to fix it... or do they?
Maybe they just don't want to admit their design is flawed and they
don't want to admit they're not competent enough to fix this.

Anyway, just don't use this useless piece of crap. Just use a proper
operating system. Ubuntu and Linux in general suck so hard, even the
best porn star would be jealous. Just use Windows or OS X. Don't use
Ubuntu! Don't use Linux! It's absolute complete crap!

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2015-09-07 Thread Andrei
I've been seeing this issue since I've first started using Ubuntu a
couple of years back. I've never actually looked into the issue further
as I thought a bug report should've already been opened and a fix
incoming. Today I've encountered the issue again and had enough, so I
searched and came across this thread.

So you're telling me this issue has been known for literally 11 years
(or even more, considering its root cause is X) and there is still no
fix? Are you guys idiots? No seriously now, are you fucking kidding me?
This is purely unacceptable. I don't give a damn how many discussions
have existed on this matter or how hard it is to implement a fix, and
frankly, it doesn't even matter. You've had 11 fucking years to get your
shit together and figure it out. I literally don't even know anymore if
I should blame the open-source community or the pure incompetence of
Canonical to put a stop to this madness. This has got to be THE WORST
bug with such a history from Ubuntu ever.

I can't even...

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[Bug 11334]

2015-02-25 Thread Pyrates
I suppose the reason why this won't be fixed is because xorg is being
replaced by wayland.  Let's hope that wayland fixes it then.

Soon enough xorg will be obselete.

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2015-02-25 Thread 2-hugo-q
Stop complaining about users not wanting selection-based copying.  It
has no negative impact if you don't use it, and users most likely won't
notice it.

Let me shed some light on this (since there also seem to be so many
references to this bug everywhere).

Selected text gets copied to PRIMARY, and get pasted *only* by pressing mouse2.
If you press ctrl+c, whatever is selected is copied to CLIPBOARD.  Only 
pressing ctrl+v (or selecting copy from some menu) will get CLIPBOARD pasted.
PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD never interact; ever!  So if you don't want 
selection-based copying, just don't press m2, and you're done, there's no need 
to change anything, and it doesn't affect the usage of CLIPBOARD.

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[Bug 11334]

2015-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huddleston
This is just how selections work.  If the application is closed, there's nobody 
to ask for the data.  If you want this to work right, use a clipboard manager.

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2015-02-25 Thread Pyrates
I use both mouse buttons, so yes it does effect me.

Just admit this was an awful design.  Besides, they've refused to fix
it.

That's why it's been submitted to wayland instead.  You can stay behind
on old tech while the rest of us welcome the modern era.

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2015-02-25 Thread skabbedabbeda
@Hugo:
Fuck off, you moron! Not pressing that button worked 15 years ago when the 
scroll wheel wasn't yet invented and the middle button was the same kind of 
button as the left and the right button. Nowadays mice have scroll wheels and 
it is very common to accidentally press that scroll wheel while scrolling. So 
you're scrolling through a text document, you accidentally press the scroll 
wheel a little bit too hard and some text is inserted in your document.

People, please stop using this crap. Linux is just utter crap on the
desktop and will never succeed. I can't understand people still use it.
Buy a Mac or install Windows 7. Linux is completely useless and will
always be completely useless.

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[Bug 11334]

2015-02-25 Thread Sworddragon
Is there any reason why this ticket is marked as INVALID? Even if this
will still need a while I think we should not stop working on it.


Maybe another possible solution would be to implement this as an optional API 
that doesn't require to drop support for legacy applications (at least not in 
the near future). Developers can make use of this API for copy/cut/paste in 
their applications and old applications will still act in the current way - 
either a clipboard manager will take care of this or the clipboard gets lost.

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[Bug 11334]

2015-02-25 Thread Pyrates
Most users don't want this selection based clipboard.  But if no one is
gonna fix it for xorg, off I go to submit it gets implemented in
wayland.

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[Bug 11334]

2015-02-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
(In reply to sworddragon2 from comment #19)
 Is there any reason why this ticket is marked as INVALID?

Because it's simply a flame war and disagreement with the current
design.

Reopening the bug has a 0% chance of getting anyone to work on it, and is
unnecessary should someone have a concrete proposal to present - new feature
work is done via discussion  patch review on the mailing list, not endless 
bug threads.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2015-01-24 Thread Eldar Khayrullin
** Also affects: vim
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 11334]

2014-07-15 Thread Jay
After reading through the links provided on this page, the ubuntu
clipboard persistence page has stated that a user can solve this issue
for libreoffice and all other applications by installing a clipboard
manager. It recommends parcellite, but mentions alternatives for xfce
(clipman), KDE (klipper) and Gnome (glipper) desktop environments. Just
placing this information here for future users to find encase they file
the same bug and want a solution until libreoffice solves it itself.

Setting this to NEW as i mistakenly set it to REOPENED.

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[Bug 11334]

2014-07-15 Thread Jay
*** Bug 81233 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2014-06-24 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: df-libreoffice
   Importance: Medium = Wishlist

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[Bug 11334]

2014-06-17 Thread Adolfo Jayme
This is not LibreOffice’s bug.

This has to do with the whole X server architecture. Deep level stuff.
An historical issue in Linux distros using X.

Citing Michael Meeks (from bug 48783):

“The X clipboard system relies on the app owning the selection to
provide the data; if you close the app - that app isn't there; so it
will fail.”

See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334 for boring details and
funny rants.

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[Bug 11334]

2014-06-17 Thread Jay
Bjorn has stated there is a workaround for this and i think it should be
implemented as other apps are also using the workaround. I dont think
linux users should be penalized by X's issue with the clipboard.

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[Bug 11334]

2014-06-17 Thread TenLeftFingers
Most of my reaction to this is non-technical so I'll save it for another
forum. But I'm disappointed that this is the outcome after two-years when
this was first reported. I agree with Jay Philips above that other apps are
managing this scenario for their users.


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote:

  Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com changed bug 48783
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  What Removed Added  Status RESOLVED REOPENED  Resolution NOTOURBUG ---

  *Comment # 14 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783#c14
 on bug 48783 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783 from Jay
 Philips philip...@hotmail.com *

 Bjorn has stated there is a workaround for this and i think it should be
 implemented as other apps are also using the workaround. I dont think linux
 users should be penalized by X's issue with the clipboard.

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[Bug 11334]

2014-06-10 Thread Momonasmon
*** Bug 79872 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2014-05-02 Thread Tralalalala
In LibreOffice Bugzilla #48783, TenLeftFingers (tenleftfingers) wrote on
2012-09-30:

However on MacOS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) this issue is not reproducible.
The clipboard contents are preserved on exit.

Of course, because OS X is a proper operating system with a clipboard
that always, because of the way it's implemented in the operating system
itself. It has been said many times: A clipboard should be a feature of
the operating system itself and applications shouldn't have to write
code to make copy/paste work. Write an application for Windows, OS X or
even iOS and copy/paste just works. There's no need for the developers
to implement this feature to make copy/paste work.

That's why Linux is such a useless operating system.

In LibreOffice Bugzilla #48783, L-lunak-w (l-lunak-w) wrote on
2014-04-25:

This is a consequence of the X11 clipboard design and not LibreOffice
specific. As such, there's not much LibreOffice itself can do about this
on its own.

You shouldn't even do something. Just don't fix it. It's absolutely
ridiculous all applications have to be fixed by its developers. I
surrounded fixed by quotation marks, because of course the
applications are not broken at all. It's the operating system itself
that's broken and they refuse to fix their crappy operating system and
expect all developers to write code to make copy/paste work on their
piece of shit called Linux. I'd say they can go fuck themselves. Just
spend your time on Windows and OS X. Just don't give a single shit about
Linux, just like 99,5% of the world doesn't give a shit about Linux.
It's a useless piece of crap that doesn't even deserve developers who
spend time writing software for it. Developers should just write
software for Windows and OS X and ignore that fucking piece of shit.

I click on Post Comment and Launchpad says:

Error
Timeout error, please try again in a few minutes.

How surprisingly, something developed by Linux developers doesn't work.
Fucking losers.

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[Bug 11334]

2014-04-30 Thread Stefano Bagnatica
(In reply to comment #9)
 This is a consequence of the X11 clipboard design and not LibreOffice
 specific. As such, there's not much LibreOffice itself can do about this on
 its own.


I'm not sure that there's not much LibreOffice itself can do... have you seen 
that specifications, for ways to store clipboard content after program exit?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardPersistence
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager/

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2014-04-30 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: df-libreoffice
   Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed

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[Bug 11334]

2014-04-30 Thread L-lunak-w
Specifications are one thing, but there needs to be also something
providing the functionality. While KDE's Klipper is run by default, I'm
rather sure it doesn't implement this, I have no idea about other
desktops, but IIRC GNOME has never really officially included a
clipboard manager, so it's a question of how many users would have it
there.

But fair enough, I guess this can be kept open for when somebody will
feel like implementing this.

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[Bug 11334]

2014-04-25 Thread L-lunak-w
This is a consequence of the X11 clipboard design and not LibreOffice
specific. As such, there's not much LibreOffice itself can do about this
on its own.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2014-04-25 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: df-libreoffice
   Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2014-02-18 Thread Mechanical snail
** Description changed:

  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
  
  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.
  
  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this
  bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description
  on Launchpad.
  
  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator
  that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time
  to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from
  doing that.
  
  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install diodon, klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
  
  
  *** EXPLANATION OF THE BUG ***
  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere and 
after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.
  
  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.
  
  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the 
clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager
  
  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg 
clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply 
with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
  A related proposal is to implement it in Wayland: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/865885
  
    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  LibreOffice : https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48783
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.
+ Blender : https://developer.blender.org/T38674
  
   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-11-14 Thread Andrea Corbellini
** Bug watch added: LibreOffice Bugzilla #48783
   https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48783

** Also affects: df-libreoffice via
   https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48783
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Description changed:

  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
  
  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.
  
  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this
  bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description
  on Launchpad.
  
  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator
  that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time
  to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from
  doing that.
  
  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install diodon, klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
  
  
  *** EXPLANATION OF THE BUG ***
  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere and 
after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.
  
  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.
  
  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the 
clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager
  
  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg 
clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply 
with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
  A related proposal is to implement it in Wayland: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/865885
  
    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
+ LibreOffice : https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48783
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.
  
   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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2013-11-14 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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On 2012-04-16T13:39:24+00:00 TenLeftFingers wrote:

Problem description: After copying some text, the application was exited
by the user before opening another application to paste to. The content
was no longer in the clipboard after closing lowriter.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Select and copy some text in LibreOffice Writer.
2. Close Writer as well as any other instances of LO.
3. Open any text editor and try to paste the content.

Expected Outcome: The text should paste and become visible.
Actual Outcome: Nothing happens  the Paste option in the menu may show the 
applications default appearance for no content, if any.

Platform (if different from the browser): 
Ubuntu 12.04
  
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/11.0

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On 2012-09-29T22:45:38+00:00 thackert wrote:

Hello Jarlath, *,
I can confirm your observation with LO Version 3.6.2.2 (Build ID: da8c1e6) 
under Debian Testing x86 (but seem to remember to have this same behaviour 
observed on my PC with Debian Testing AMD64), but I am not sure, if it is a bug 
from LO and/or from the clipboard. I seem to remember, that it happened to me, 
when copying from other applications to the clipboard (say from firefox to 
konsole) in the past as well. So maybe it works as expected (by the 
developers, it means ... ;) ).

Just out of interest: Are you using the default WM/DE GNOME? And have you 
tested it with another one (like XFCE, KDE or the like)?
HTH
Thomas.

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On 2012-09-30T13:29:28+00:00 TenLeftFingers wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your reply. I can currently reproduce this on the Ubuntu 
12.04 Unity desktop which I believe uses Gnome as it's backend. I 
haven't tried this on any other linux environments. I did try the same 
experiment with (copying from and closing) Firefox and (pasting to) 
Gedit, it worked correctly in this case.

However on MacOS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) this issue is not reproducible. 
The clipboard contents are preserved on exit.

By the way, were you using KDE to reproduce this?

On 09/29/2012 11:45 PM, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote:

 *Comment # 1 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783#c1 
 on bug 48783 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48783 from 
 thack...@nexgo.de mailto:thack...@nexgo.de *
 Hello Jarlath, *,
 I can confirm your observation with LO Version 3.6.2.2 (Build ID: da8c1e6)
 under Debian Testing x86 (but seem to remember to have this same behaviour
 observed on my PC with Debian Testing AMD64), but I am not sure, if it is a 
 bug
 from LO and/or from the clipboard. I seem to remember, that it happened to me,
 when copying from other applications to the clipboard (say from firefox to
 konsole) in the past as well. So maybe it works as expected (by the
 developers, it means ... ;) ).

 Just out of interest: Are you using the default WM/DE GNOME? And have you
 tested it with another one (like XFCE, KDE or the like)?
 HTH
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On 2012-10-08T08:45:00+00:00 Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Confirmed by multiple affected users.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardManager

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On 2012-10-08T09:02:44+00:00 Michael-meeks-1 wrote:

Bjoern - your wiki link fails for me.

The X clipboard system relies on the app owning the selection to provide
the data; if you close the app - that app isn't there; so it will fail.

There are various (varyingly expensive) hacks around this out there in
various desktops; that try to serialise the clipboard at various points
- I guess this could be done before exit.

Problems abound: eg. select 2^36 cells in a sheet, hit copy, exit
LibreOffice - what happens ? ;- but - that's always the way with big
sheets I guess.

Are you certain this is an unexpected bug ? :-)

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-08-08 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: epiphany
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-08-08 Thread pyrates
may I ask why epiphany is now invalid for this bug?  It's a web browser,
but it doesn't need copy and paste working properly?

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-05-12 Thread BorisJoffe
** Also affects: mousepad
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-04-22 Thread Shashank VRSN Sabniveesu
Hi!

I'd like to fix this bug but could someone point to me which package to
work on? Atleast hint me on how to search for that package name.

Thanking you

Regards
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-02-17 Thread Julian Alarcon
** Description changed:

  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
  
  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.
  
  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this
  bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description
  on Launchpad.
  
  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator
  that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time
  to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from
  doing that.
  
  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
- Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
+ Install diodon, klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
  
  
  *** EXPLANATION OF THE BUG ***
  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere and 
after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.
  
  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.
  
  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the 
clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager
  
  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg 
clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply 
with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
  A related proposal is to implement it in Wayland: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/865885
  
    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.
  
   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2013-02-17 Thread antistress
see also

- Not fixed : --
LibreOffice : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/983449

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-10-11 Thread Tralalalala
This bug doesn't affect me anymore. I stopped using this crappy open
source shit and I've bought a Mac which just works. Problem solved.

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[Bug 11334]

2012-08-13 Thread Marcdeklein
I have this problem on Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 English. Firefox
3.6.8 Final English. Copy url from adresbar, restart firefox, then paste
copied url, and clipboard is empty...

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[Bug 11334]

2012-08-13 Thread Rimas Kudelis
Marc, this particular bug is Linux-specific. You should file a new one
if you happen to have this same problem on Windows. Clipboard
implementations are completely different among different operating
systems, so Windows issues are totally irrelevant in this Linux bug.

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[Bug 11334]

2012-08-13 Thread Marcdeklein
(In reply to comment #52)
 Marc, this particular bug is Linux-specific. You should file a new one if you
 happen to have this same problem on Windows. Clipboard implementations are
 completely different among different operating systems, so Windows issues are
 totally irrelevant in this Linux bug.

Ok, thanks :)

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[Bug 11334]

2012-08-13 Thread Stransky
Created attachment 461511
1.9.2 version

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[Bug 11334]

2012-08-13 Thread Legneato
Comment on attachment 461511
1.9.2 version

We will not be taking this for .9. Moving approval request forward.

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[Bug 11334]

2012-08-13 Thread Legneato
There is an unfixed dependency (bug 531580) and a fixed dependency (bug
518249) that depends on an unfixed bug (bug 552449).

Until those are resolved we can't take this on the branches.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-07-17 Thread Mechanical snail
** Also affects: qt
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: kdelibs
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-07-17 Thread Mechanical snail
I tried it on some more programs. It affected every KDE program I tried,
including: kcolorchooser (copying from a text box), kwrite, konqueror,
kcalc, okular.

I tried some non-KDE Qt programs, all of which were also affected: vlc,
anki, qsynth, qtoctave.

This makes me suspect it's a KDE and Qt problem, rather than a problem
with these specific apps. I have therefore added KDE core and Qt to the
list of affected projects.

Also, GTK 2 programs: leafpad, synaptic
GTK 3: I am still seeing this with gedit, even though it's supposed to be fixed.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-07-17 Thread Mechanical snail
** Description changed:

  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
  
  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.
  
  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this
  bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description
- on launchpad.
+ on Launchpad.
  
  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator
  that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time
  to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from
  doing that.
  
  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
- 
  
  
- When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere
- and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.
+ *** EXPLANATION OF THE BUG ***
+ When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere and 
after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.
  
  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.
  
  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the 
clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager
  
  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg 
clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply 
with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
+ A related proposal is to implement it in Wayland: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/865885
  
    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.
  
   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-07-10 Thread Mechanical snail
Also affects kcharselect (on Ubuntu Precise, running under KDE).

** Also affects: kdeutils
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-03-20 Thread David Bensimon
** Tags added: css-sponsored-p

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-30 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnucash
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-27 Thread skabbedabbeda
3esmit (3esmit) wrote on 2012-01-26:#271
We like linux, we believe in an open source future, where open source
is the best. We want all to be perfect, we dont want Mac.

I like beautiful girls. I believe in an open future, where open
relationships are the best and I can have sex with every girl I see,
without her boyfriend wanting to shoot me.

What do my perfect future and your perfect future have in common?
They're both never going to happen. Open source has no future and open
source will never be the best.

Eric B (eric-broszeit) wrote on 2012-01-26: #273
For the most part, this has been fixed. Only a few applications are still
listed, and I would not be surprised if they are fixed as well. I don't use
them to check.

No, only a few applications actually do work. Most application don't
work and will never work. Do you now how many applications are available
in Ubuntu Software Centre? Install all of them, every single application
and start testing all of them. Then there are applications which aren't
even available in Ubuntu Software Centre. Start testing those
applications too. A clipboard should work for EVERY application, not
just a part of the applications which are installed by default.

That's why it shouldn't be fixed on a per-app basis, but it should be
fixed in the core. That's how it works in other operating systems and
that's how it belongs to work. In Mac OS X and Windows you can install
every application you want and it doesn't matter where the application
comes from, it just works, without the developer of the application
having to think about implementing a clipboard. That's how it should
work!

You can expect from all developers to implement a clipboard. That's why
only a few application for Linux have the clipboard implemented. Just
search for replies from a person called pyrates in this bug report. He
knows what he's talking about. He's one the few who knows how it should
be implemented and who's able to explain why the current implementation
is so bad and completely wrong.

ScislaC (scislac) wrote 20 hours ago:   #274
Or one could install a clipboard manager... your only solution isn't really 
the only solution.

Clipboard managers don't work properly. They crash and don't support
everything which can be copied (they only support text or text and
files, but it should support everything: text, files, images, parts of
an audio file, parts cut from a movie). Most of them aren't updated
anymore. The developer started its project five years ago, never
finished it. It's designed for a five years old Linux distribution and
it haven't been updated ever since. No one is maintaing those clipboard
managers, so you just can't rely on them.

An operating should have a proper working clipboard of its own. You just
install the operating system and then install whatever application you
like and it should just work, without the need of installing a clipboard
manager, without the need to keep the source window open and without
developers having to implement a clipboard in their applications. That's
something you open source idiots just don't understand... correction:
don't want to understand.

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-27 Thread FMaz
@skabbedabbeda: Please stop.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/top-five-linux-contributor-
microsoft/9254

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-27 Thread papukaija
To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . Bug reports are handled by
humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear this in
mind. Thanks.

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Re:[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-27 Thread Bartolomeo Nicolotti
Hello,

I think that this is a very important comment, that should be taken in
account by Linux/GNU developers to improve this wonderful Open Source
System I've use at work for 5 years (five years) with no problem, after
all copy-paste can be also a bad thing and I've worked happily for 5
years even if this bug seems very strange for a system that has given me
much less headache than Microsoft Word. I've written two important
documents longer than 30 pages with Microsoft Word and this perfect
program that I paid with good money refused to print both after page 30,
I've had to use open office for free and everything worked... I bought
an external CD burner in 2000 in a Mac store for a iMac OS 8.6, it
burned 1 CD then I got always errors... If you want to feed Microsoft
and Mac you can, I will feed the penguin.

Best regards

 3esmit (3esmit) wrote on 2012-01-26:  #271
 We like linux, we believe in an open source future, where open source
 is the best. We want all to be perfect, we dont want Mac.
 
 I like beautiful girls. I believe in an open future, where open
 relationships are the best and I can have sex with every girl I see,
 without her boyfriend wanting to shoot me.
 
 What do my perfect future and your perfect future have in common?
 They're both never going to happen. Open source has no future and open
 source will never be the best.
 
 Eric B (eric-broszeit) wrote on 2012-01-26:   #273
 For the most part, this has been fixed. Only a few applications are still
 listed, and I would not be surprised if they are fixed as well. I don't use
 them to check.
 
 No, only a few applications actually do work. Most application don't
 work and will never work. Do you now how many applications are available
 in Ubuntu Software Centre? Install all of them, every single application
 and start testing all of them. Then there are applications which aren't
 even available in Ubuntu Software Centre. Start testing those
 applications too. A clipboard should work for EVERY application, not
 just a part of the applications which are installed by default.
 
 That's why it shouldn't be fixed on a per-app basis, but it should be
 fixed in the core. That's how it works in other operating systems and
 that's how it belongs to work. In Mac OS X and Windows you can install
 every application you want and it doesn't matter where the application
 comes from, it just works, without the developer of the application
 having to think about implementing a clipboard. That's how it should
 work!
 
 You can expect from all developers to implement a clipboard. That's why
 only a few application for Linux have the clipboard implemented. Just
 search for replies from a person called pyrates in this bug report. He
 knows what he's talking about. He's one the few who knows how it should
 be implemented and who's able to explain why the current implementation
 is so bad and completely wrong.
 
 ScislaC (scislac) wrote 20 hours ago: #274
 Or one could install a clipboard manager... your only solution isn't 
 really the only solution.
 
 Clipboard managers don't work properly. They crash and don't support
 everything which can be copied (they only support text or text and
 files, but it should support everything: text, files, images, parts of
 an audio file, parts cut from a movie). Most of them aren't updated
 anymore. The developer started its project five years ago, never
 finished it. It's designed for a five years old Linux distribution and
 it haven't been updated ever since. No one is maintaing those clipboard
 managers, so you just can't rely on them.
 
 An operating should have a proper working clipboard of its own. You just
 install the operating system and then install whatever application you
 like and it should just work, without the need of installing a clipboard
 manager, without the need to keep the source window open and without
 developers having to implement a clipboard in their applications. That's
 something you open source idiots just don't understand... correction:
 don't want to understand.
 
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread matteo sisti sette
This is f** ridiculous, more than 6 years, it can't take THAT long to fix 
this. I understand this is the way it is designed, but it is designed the wrong 
way if you can't paste after closing the source of the copy.
And importance should be at the very least High

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread skabbedabbeda
@matteo sisti sette (matteosistisette):

Reported by Arandonohue on 2004-12-20. That's indeed more than 6
years, but it's even more than 7 years. Besides that, it's been more
than 7 years the bug was reported on Ubuntu's Launchpad, but this bug is
way older. Even before Ubuntu existed, this bug already existed and was
to be found in Linux distributions which existed 10 years ago.

Don't expect this bug to be fixed, because developers just don't care
about this bug. If you want to get rid of this bug, then there's only
one solution: Don't use this crap anymore. Install Windows or buy a Mac
(or try to install Mac OS X on a regular PC). That's the only solution.

My advice is to buy a Mac. I know they aren't cheap, but I did so and it
works great. It's just absolutely gorgeous. Everything just works as
it's supposed to.

Just get rid of Linux completely. Using another distribution isn't an
option, because it's all the same crap. Linux is only good for servers
which run without a GUI, it's just not designed for desktops. For your
desktop there are only two operatings systems which really work: Windows
and Mac OS X (although I'm so sure about the first one, but it's way
better than any Linux distribution available.)

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread 3esmit
Dear @skabbedabbeda

We like linux, we believe in an open source future, where open source
is the best. We want all to be perfect, we dont want Mac.

2012/1/26 skabbedabbeda 11...@bugs.launchpad.net:
 @matteo sisti sette (matteosistisette):

 Reported by Arandonohue on 2004-12-20. That's indeed more than 6
 years, but it's even more than 7 years. Besides that, it's been more
 than 7 years the bug was reported on Ubuntu's Launchpad, but this bug is
 way older. Even before Ubuntu existed, this bug already existed and was
 to be found in Linux distributions which existed 10 years ago.

 Don't expect this bug to be fixed, because developers just don't care
 about this bug. If you want to get rid of this bug, then there's only
 one solution: Don't use this crap anymore. Install Windows or buy a Mac
 (or try to install Mac OS X on a regular PC). That's the only solution.

 My advice is to buy a Mac. I know they aren't cheap, but I did so and it
 works great. It's just absolutely gorgeous. Everything just works as
 it's supposed to.

 Just get rid of Linux completely. Using another distribution isn't an
 option, because it's all the same crap. Linux is only good for servers
 which run without a GUI, it's just not designed for desktops. For your
 desktop there are only two operatings systems which really work: Windows
 and Mac OS X (although I'm so sure about the first one, but it's way
 better than any Linux distribution available.)

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 Status in ChmSee:
  Unknown
 Status in Chromium Browser:
  Unknown
 Status in Eclipse:
  Unknown
 Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface:
  Unknown
 Status in Epiphany - Clone of BoulderDash Game:
  New
 Status in gnome-utils - GNOME Desktop Utilities:
  New
 Status in GnuCash - Finance manager:
  Confirmed
 Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit:
  Confirmed
 Status in Inkscape: A Vector Drawing Tool:
  Confirmed
 Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  Confirmed
 Status in Tomboy:
  New
 Status in Webkit Direct Port:
  Fix Released
 Status in X.Org X server:
  Invalid
 Status in Xournal:
  New
 Status in XUL + XPCOM application runner:
  Fix Released
 Status in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

 Bug description:
  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===

  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.

  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does
  this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug
  description on launchpad.

  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong
  indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a
  tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please
  abstain from doing that.

  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman

  

  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere
  and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets
  empty.

  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.

  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the 
 clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager

  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg 
 clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to 
 comply with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste

    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.

   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread Martin Lindhe
skabbedabbeda wrote 2012-01-26 14:01:

 My advice is to buy a Mac. I know they aren't cheap, but I did so and it
 works great. It's just absolutely gorgeous. Everything just works as
 it's supposed to.

 Just get rid of Linux completely.

This is a bug report please keep discussion to the bug itself.

A bug resolution is NOT to switch OS. You, of course are free to do 
whatever you want.
Please keep your opinions to your personal blog or elsewhere.

/m

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread Eric B
For the most part, this has been fixed. Only a few applications are still
listed, and I would not be surprised if they are fixed as well. I don't use
them to check.
No reason to get upset and spend a grand or more on a certain expensive
hardwares and OSes.
On Jan 26, 2012 8:46 AM, Martin Lindhe 11...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 skabbedabbeda wrote 2012-01-26 14:01:
 
  My advice is to buy a Mac. I know they aren't cheap, but I did so and it
  works great. It's just absolutely gorgeous. Everything just works as
  it's supposed to.
 
  Just get rid of Linux completely.

 This is a bug report please keep discussion to the bug itself.

 A bug resolution is NOT to switch OS. You, of course are free to do
 whatever you want.
 Please keep your opinions to your personal blog or elsewhere.

 /m

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread ScislaC
Install Windows or buy a Mac (or try to install Mac OS X on a regular
PC). That's the only solution.

skabbedabbeda: Or one could install a clipboard manager... your only
solution isn't really the only solution. I'm thankful you don't work
high up in government with your jumping to the only solution.

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-01-26 Thread Julio A. Garcia Lopez
Dont feed the troll, please.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-11-11 Thread Curtis Hovey
** No longer affects: null

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Re:[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-10-12 Thread Bartolomeo Nicolotti
I've tried and on ubuntu 8.04 it seems to work

Bye!

 For everyone who wants this bug to be fixed in this crappy, amateuristic
 operating system: It will never happen.
 
 The only way to solve is this problem: Buy a Mac or install Windows.
 
 I'm confident a big number of people who subscribed to this bug of
 clicked Affects me too have already solved this problem by just not
 using Linux anymore. Most people who try Linux, uninstall it again
 within a few months, because they get so annoyed by all those bugs.
 
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-10-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-10-04 Thread robbert
For everyone who wants this bug to be fixed in this crappy, amateuristic
operating system: It will never happen.

The only way to solve is this problem: Buy a Mac or install Windows.

I'm confident a big number of people who subscribed to this bug of
clicked Affects me too have already solved this problem by just not
using Linux anymore. Most people who try Linux, uninstall it again
within a few months, because they get so annoyed by all those bugs.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-10-03 Thread pyrates
Just so we don't fill up this bug report anymore, here's a fresh start
for people who don't want it implemented the way freedesktop.org has:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/865885

But would rather have it implemented properly, instead of on a per app
basis.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-15 Thread Tralalalala
Please stop the abuse. It is not helpful at all. Please see the code of
conduct.

Like it's possible to post anything helpfull on this bug report. This
bug isn't fixed after all those years and even in the year 2024 this bug
will not be fixed. It's completely impossible to post anything helpfull
here, because this bug (like so many other annoying bugs in Ubuntu (and
Linux in general)) won't be fixed.

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-08 Thread Julio A. Garcia Lopez
Slated, please dont feed the trolls...

El , Slated 11...@bugs.launchpad.net escribió:
 pyrates: use to the method that windows and mac os x do.

 Tralalalala: open source idiot.

 Endolith: Just switch to a working OS like Windows 7.


 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Ubuntu community.


 I seem to be in the wrong place. I came here looking for a GNU/Linux

 distro (am I allowed to say GNU on an Ubuntu site, or is that

 censored?), but apparently this is a Windows/Mac evangelism site.


 So the question is, if you're all so enamoured with Windows and the
Mac,

 why don't you just stick to those operating systems, instead of trying

 to pervert GNU/Linux into the very thing people switch to GNU/Linux to

 get away from?


 Or is that too obvious?


 Anyway, good luck fixing your bug. May you and your Windows, erm, I

 mean Linux operating system be very happy together.


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 Status in AbiWord:

 Confirmed

 Status in ChmSee:

 Unknown

 Status in Chromium Browser:

 Unknown

 Status in Eclipse:

 Unknown

 Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface:

 Unknown

 Status in Epiphany - Clone of BoulderDash Game:

 New

 Status in gnome-utils - GNOME Desktop Utilities:

 New

 Status in GnuCash - Finance manager:

 Confirmed

 Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit:

 Confirmed

 Status in Inkscape: A Vector Drawing Tool:

 Confirmed

 Status in NULL Project:

 Invalid

 Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:

 Confirmed

 Status in Tomboy:

 New

 Status in Webkit Direct Port:

 Fix Released

 Status in X.Org X server:

 Confirmed

 Status in Xournal:

 New

 Status in XUL + XPCOM application runner:

 Fix Released

 Status in Ubuntu:

 Confirmed


 Bug description:

 ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _
+++===

 ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===


 IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.


 IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does

 this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug

 description on launchpad.


 IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to

 verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop

 reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong

 indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a

 tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please

 abstain from doing that.


 *** WORKAROUND ***

 ---

 Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman


 


 When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere

 and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets

 empty.


 Steps to reproduce in gedit :

 1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.

 2. Paste into any other text field.

 3. It works.

 4. Close the source window or program.

 5. Paste now does nothing.


 This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the  
 clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.

 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager


 There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg  
 clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to  
 comply with the specification.

 Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220

 http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste


  Actual Status : 

 - Not fixed : --

 OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092

 GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204

 Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205

 Inkscape : This bug.


  Fixed : +

 Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk  
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340

 Evolution : Fixed in 2.29
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374

 Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291

 Pidgin : Fixed

 Gedit : Fixed

 Most Gnome apps, Fixed

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-08 Thread Murray Cumming
Please stop the abuse. It is not helpful at all. Please see the code of
conduct.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-07 Thread Slated
pyrates: use to the method that windows and mac os x do.
Tralalalala: open source idiot.
Endolith: Just switch to a working OS like Windows 7.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Ubuntu community.

I seem to be in the wrong place. I came here looking for a GNU/Linux
distro (am I allowed to say GNU on an Ubuntu site, or is that
censored?), but apparently this is a Windows/Mac evangelism site.

So the question is, if you're all so enamoured with Windows and the Mac,
why don't you just stick to those operating systems, instead of trying
to pervert GNU/Linux into the very thing people switch to GNU/Linux to
get away from?

Or is that too obvious?

Anyway, good luck fixing your bug. May you and your Windows, erm, I
mean Linux operating system be very happy together.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-07 Thread WindPower
 the very thing people switch to GNU/Linux to get away from

Have you ever heard about someone switching to Linux because they hate
the way the clipboard works on Windows/OS X, and want to get away from
that?


Let's stop this nonsense and get this bug fixed, ladies and gentlemen.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-07 Thread Endolith
 I seem to be in the wrong place. I came here looking for a GNU/Linux
distro (am I allowed to say GNU on an Ubuntu site, or is that
censored?)

Ubuntu might not be the right OS for you.  You might prefer something
with GNU in the title and a 1970s command line instead of an
interface, with a picture of RMS in the boot screen instead of a
penguin.  I don't see why all these people start using Ubuntu and then
complain about how it's becoming too easy to use and too similar to
other OSes.  Just use a different distro!  Stop trying to sabotage
Ubuntu's success with archaic crap.

 So the question is, if you're all so enamoured with Windows and the
Mac, why don't you just stick to those operating systems

No no no.  I used Ubuntu for 4 years and I'm *fed up* with it, so I
*switched* to Windows.  I'm not *sticking* with it.  I'm *switching* to
it.  Different.

 instead of trying to pervert GNU/Linux into the very thing people
switch to GNU/Linux to get away from?

Yeah, people are switching to Linux in droves, and the primary reason is
because the clipboard in Windows just works too damn well.  What they're
really craving is a clipboard that forgets everything when you close the
app.

And why am I still getting notifications for this bug when I've
unsubscribed from it and other duplicates?  :(

And why does Launchpad allow people to argue and leave advocacy comments
and other irrelevant noise like this, which is then sent to every one of
the subscribers?  There should be a way for users to mod up or down the
relevancy of comments, so the irrelevant ones are minimized and the bug
listing isn't crapped up with 260 comments that don't help fix the bug.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-07 Thread pyrates
Slated, thank you for your comment.  You've just said what linux users
say when they are confronted with bugs in their precious distro.  That
instead of fixing them, they write them off and tell the user to just
not use it.

It's one extreme to another.  From this is the year of the linux
desktop, to if you don't like it go use something else because it's free
and if you got it for free you got no right to complain about it.

I know it's a defense mechanism because that kind of response can only
come from someone whose just had their reality shattered by a reasonable
argument.  When your entire belief system is suddenly shown be false or
part of it is shown to be false, you can either accept it or rationalize
it further so that it can again fit in your belief system.  That's why
some people's reasons here for not wanting this fixed are so
predictable.  You only can rationalize something so far.

I'm not sure why the Ubuntu programmers have left this bug open for the
community.  With the amount of people wanting it fixed, I don't know why
they won't commit to fixing this properly.  Maybe they are with wayland.
I'd hope so.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-05 Thread Tralalalala
Slated, you're just another open source idiot who thinks open source
programmers do everything the right way. In your opinion Linux does
everything right and other operating systems are designed in a very bad
and unsecure way. Those open source idiots do everything they can to
defend Linux and open source. Even for the biggest and most stupid bugs
they try to find a reason why it isn't a bug, but instead a great design
feature of those open source programmers and of course the way it's
implemented in Linux is way better than the way it's implemented in
other operating systems.

Please, slated, use your brains. Everyone can see the Linux way of
implementing copy / paste is the most stupid design error ever made in
an operating system. Copy / paste has to be implemented in the core of
every operating sysrtem! It's completely ridiculous to expect developers
of every single application to implement support for the Linux way of
copy / paste. A developer of an application shouldn't have to worry
about implementing copy / paste into his application. This support has
to be there out of the box. The operating system itself should handle
this.

If Linux doesn't get core functionality like copy / paste done right,
it'll never get more than 1% of market share. Every year you hear it's
going to be the year of Linux on the desktop, but Linux has been hugging
the 1% of market share for years now. The market share isn't growing and
if Linux doesn't get these core features of an operating sytem
implemented the right way, its market share will never exceed 1%. In the
year 2053 Linux will still have a market share of 0.94% or something
like that. Well, in my opinion that's already 0.94% too much market
share. An operating system which sticks to ideas from the 1980's and is
developed by people who think like slated just doesn't deserve any
market share at all.

People, just use a proper operating system. Use Mac OS X. Every Linux
distribution just sucks.

There's pyrates again, the only Launchpad member who uses his brains.
The only person here on Launchpad who really knows what he's talking
about. Again, you've written a really good comment and I couldn't agree
more.

Kiki, to have this bug fixed like it needs to be fixed, there have to be
made changes to Xorg. Fixing this bug for every single just isn't the
right way to fix this bug. Actually it wouldn't even be a bug fix, but
just a workaround to have those applications work without actually
fixing the bug itself.

The workaround of implementing copy / paste in every application is
completely ridiculous. There are thousands of applications which can be
installed in Ubuntu. You can't implement this functionality in all of
those applications. After all those years copy / paste has only been
implemented in a couple of applications. There are thousands of
applications left to be fixed. Besides those existing applications,
there's the problem of new applications being released every year.
Almost every new application which is released doesn't have copy / paste
implemented. After a new application has been released users have to be
complaining for years to have copy / paste implemented. Firefox is one
of the most used applications and it has taken years before copy / paste
was finally implemented (actually we are still waiting, because Firefox
4 stable still hasn't been released). OpenOffice.org is also used a lot
on Linux, but it still hasn't copy / paste implemented after all those
years! How long do you think it'll take to implement copy / paste in
every application? That's just completely impossible.

You can't fix this bug by implementing copy / paste in every
application. It just needs to be fixed at the core!

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-05 Thread Sarah Strong
:
   Confirmed
  Status in Inkscape: A Vector Drawing Tool:
   Confirmed
  Status in NULL Project:
   Invalid
  Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
   Confirmed
  Status in Tomboy:
   New
  Status in Webkit Direct Port:
   Fix Released
  Status in X.Org X server:
   Confirmed
  Status in Xournal:
   New
  Status in XUL + XPCOM application runner:
   Fix Released
  Status in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed
 
  Bug description:
   ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
   ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
 
   IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.
 
   IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does
   this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug
   description on launchpad.
 
   IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
   verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
   reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong
   indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a
   tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please
   abstain from doing that.
 
   *** WORKAROUND ***
   ---
   Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
 
   
 
   When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere
   and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets
   empty.
 
   Steps to reproduce in gedit :
   1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
   2. Paste into any other text field.
   3. It works.
   4. Close the source window or program.
   5. Paste now does nothing.
 
   This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the
  clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
   http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager
 
   There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg
  clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to
  comply with the specification.
   Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
   http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
 
     Actual Status : 
   - Not fixed : --
   OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
   GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
   Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
   Inkscape :  This bug.
 
    Fixed : +
   Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
   Evolution : Fixed in 2.29
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
   Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
   Pidgin : Fixed
   Gedit : Fixed
   Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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 Status in AbiWord:
  Confirmed
 Status in ChmSee:
  Unknown
 Status in Chromium Browser:
  Unknown
 Status in Eclipse:
  Unknown
 Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface:
  Unknown
 Status in Epiphany - Clone of BoulderDash Game:
  New
 Status in gnome-utils - GNOME Desktop Utilities:
  New
 Status in GnuCash - Finance manager:
  Confirmed
 Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit:
  Confirmed
 Status in Inkscape: A Vector Drawing Tool:
  Confirmed
 Status in NULL Project:
  Invalid
 Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  Confirmed
 Status in Tomboy:
  New
 Status in Webkit Direct Port:
  Fix Released
 Status in X.Org X server:
  Confirmed
 Status in Xournal:
  New
 Status in XUL + XPCOM application runner:
  Fix Released
 Status in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

 Bug description:
  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===

  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.

  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does
  this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug
  description on launchpad.

  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong
  indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a
  tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please
  abstain from doing that.

  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman

  

  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere
  and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets
  empty.

  Steps

Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-05 Thread Dylan McCall
Please keep this on topic. This bug report is not about adding a clipboard
manager; it is about misbehaving clients which do not implement X's
clipboard stuff to it's fullest extent. There is no change to the accepted
system going on here; only bug fixes.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-05 Thread pyrates
For those who want this implemented properly, which I believe should
happen in wayland, go check it out here:

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27331/

And vote it up so that it gets implemented! :)

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-05 Thread Endolith
It's never going to be fixed the way it should be.  Just switch to a
working OS like Windows 7 and unsubscribe from these bugs.  That's what
I'm doing.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-04 Thread vbk
** Description changed:

  ===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
  ===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
  
  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.
  
  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does this
  bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug description
  on launchpad.
  
  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong indicator
  that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a tough time
  to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please abstain from
  doing that.
  
  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman
  
  
  
  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere
  and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty.
  
  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.
  
  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the 
clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager
  
  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg 
clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to comply 
with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste
  
    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
- Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.
  
   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
+ Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-04 Thread Slated
X11 was not designed to have a persistent clipboard, deferring this 
functionality to elsewhere - typically the window manager, or some utility 
running thereon. X11 was designed to be modular, like everything else in *NIX, 
and AFAIAC this is a good thing. Consider the issues of resource overheads and 
security for a persistent plaintext clipboard, and how such a thing should not 
be a default element of the core of any window system.
 
Conversely, Microsoft Windows lacks any native primary selection buffer 
(copy-on-select), and the middle-click-paste function, without using an add-on 
utility, a fact I found intolerable and deeply frustrating, back in the days I 
used Windows.

If I had to choose between having a native persistent clipboard, or the
copy-on-select/middle-click-paste function of X11, I'd pick the X11 way
every time. The clipboard was only ever meant to be transient, so using
it like some sort of notepad is broken behaviour, IMO. If you need such
persistent notes, install a text editor, and save your notes to a file.

For those who really insist on a persistent clipboard, there are plenty
of utilities for that.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-04 Thread pyrates
This here is the problem with linux on the desktop.  You have
programmers like Slated here thinking inside a very narrow definition.
He wants X11, now Xorg, to be modular at the cost of convenience.  He's
willing to put up with inadequacies like this just so it remains in his
narrow definition of what it should do.  And your trying to connect the
clipboard with security doesn't jive.  Linux I find on the servers I run
gets updated just as often as windows does.

I find the copy on select and middle click paste functionality
abhorring.  It is so error prone that only those who specifically know
what they are doing, programmers and advanced linux users, can use it.
And the only reason why it was implemented the way it was, was because
they didn't want to change the terminal commands ctrl+c and they wanted
it to work in a terminal first and that should be how it should work
elsewhere.  And the people who could implement it refuse to because they
don't like it.  They instead in their arrogant way, assume programmers
who are use to the method that windows and mac os x do to work with the
clipboard, think they will change their ways just to create their app on
linux.  Seeing the number of applications that don't comply with this
goes to show that those programmers of windows and mac os x refuse to
give in.  That they want the clipboard to be just like it is on windows
and mac os x.  Telling them they need to add low level access just to
deal with the clipboard on linux is stupid.  All they should need to
worry about is copying the data to the clipboard.  The clipboard should
worry about keeping this data.  Not the app that the data was copied
from.

And besides, X11 and Xorg is ancient.  It was dropped by google on
android.  Ubuntu and Fedora are moving away from it to wayland.  it's
just a mess of patches of kludge fixes that it's beyond saving.  You
can't implement anything modern on it cleanly without it ending up being
a kludge.  No one really uses the remote network capabilities of it
anymore.  It being modular has actually hurt it.  And besides, it's not
the 1980's anymore.  We got computers that are way more powerful then
that with a lot more memory that can easily deal with a persistent
clipboard.  So it's time to get away from that.  It's what end users are
use to.  Don't be afraid to use the resources you are given.

And the temporary solution of running a program to fix the clipboard is
a problem in itself.  You need to install it and most of the time they
only support text.  What about video, audio and other types of binary
data?  This was known about in 1993 and in a couple years it will be 20
years since the problem was known about.  To say open source moves
rapidly isn't always true when it comes to features end users want and
programmers don't care to implement because no one is paying them money
to implement it.

Ubuntu has done a good job of making things easier but these fundamental
features need to be their.  That's how you'll become mainstream.  I kept
hearing every year from 2000-2010 that this year was gonna be the year
of linux on the desktop.  Well it hasn't happened.  And the typical back
pedal response was that we don't want to become mainstream then.  So
instead of fixing the problem, we'll just come up with another excuse
not to fix it.  Great job guys.

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2011-03-04 Thread Kiki
 +++===

  IMPORTANT 1: Please see the WORKAROUND a few lines below.

  IMPORTANT 2: Please don't post any me too message; use the Does
  this bug affect you? feature you can find a bit above this bug
  description on launchpad.

  IMPORTANT 3: Do not post anything if you haven't read all comments to
  verify that your point hasn't been made. If you feel tempted to stop
  reading because there are too many messages, that is a strong
  indicator that you shouldn't add even more comments. Developers have a
  tough time to find anything if you post redundant stuff. So please
  abstain from doing that.

  *** WORKAROUND ***
  ---
  Install klipper, glipper, parcellite or xfce4-clipman

  

  When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and Copy) text from somewhere
  and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets
  empty.

  Steps to reproduce in gedit :
  1. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text.
  2. Paste into any other text field.
  3. It works.
  4. Close the source window or program.
  5. Paste now does nothing.

  This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the
 clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager

  There was also previous considerations about improving xserver-xorg
 clipboard, which would reduce adaptation work from upstream projects to
 comply with the specification.
  Xorg : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
  http://www.x.org/wiki/CutAndPaste

    Actual Status : 
  - Not fixed : --
  OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092
  GIMP | GTK+ : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510204
  Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205
  Inkscape :  This bug.

   Fixed : +
  Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : Fixed in 1.9.3 trunk
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
  Evolution : Fixed in 2.29
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374
  Chromium : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
  Pidgin : Fixed
  Gedit : Fixed
  Most Gnome apps, Fixed
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