[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the "infinite size" usability effect
Nick Welch, your soultion helped me out a lot, however I'm also having the same problem with Thunderbird. Any solution there? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 Title: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the "infinite size" usability effect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/125734/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
that's not a gtk bug ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
Woohoo! I've finally come up with the magic bit of CSS to work around this: hbox#browser { margin-right: -1px !important; } (to anyone reading this that isn't sure what to do with that, copy/paste it into ~/.mozilla/firefox/your profile/chrome/userChrome.css) This may be not be the absolute most correct solution (I think some other element has a border/margin/padding of 1 where it should be 0, but I couldn't track it down), but it fixes the problem for me perfectly. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
I did a short clean room test. On the same physical machine, I've launched Ubuntu 8.04 desktop i386 live CD and then Kubuntu 8.04 desktop i386 live CD. On Kubuntu, after launching, I've installed Firefox using Adept since it isn't present by default. The result is that Firefox in ordinary, Gnome-based Ubuntu doesn't have this problem and I can grab and more the vertical scrollbar's thumb after I move the mouse pointer to the extreme right side of the screen. In Kubuntu, Firefox _has_ the problem - when I move mouse pointer to the right side, I cannot grab the scrollbar's thumb and I have to move the pointer at least one pixel to the left. Assuming that this is the same Firefox binary (versions from both Kubuntu and Ubuntu live CDs show Gecko/2008041514 Firefox/3.0b5), it would indicate that Kubuntu's default theme is to blame. But when I install and launch KSpread using Adept in Kubuntu orusing Synaptic in ordinary Ubuntu, it doesn't exhibit this problem at all! I can grab KSpread's vertical scrollbar's thumb at the edge of the screen without problems. So maybe the problem is due to the Kubuntu's QT-GTK theme integration? To summarize: The same application (Firefox): * has the problem on Kubuntu * doesn't have the problem on Ubuntu The same application (KSpread): * doesn't have the problem on Kubuntu * doesn't have the problem on Ubuntu The only meaningful pattern I can see here is that Firefox, being a GTK app, on Kubuntu is under influence of QT-GTK theme integration mechanism which may be causing the problem. Oh, BTW, all the other apps I've mentioned (Konqueror, Kedit, Gedit, Gnumeric, Abiword etc) seem to add the border around the document area and its scrollbars by themselves, regardless of desktop themes. So this is a widespread, but separate problem with many other desktop apps. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
Oops, after testing on a fresh Hardy installation I couldn't reproduce it with Ubuntu packaged Firefox 3 with default theme. It seems that something leftover in my Firefox profile is causing this. But I've discovered that almost all GTK and QT applications suffer from this problem (yes, I've tested on my fresh installation of Hardy), which is very bad. Should I report a new bug or change the purpose of this bug? -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
I think one should focus on the apps that behave correctly and see in which they differ from the rest - those apps are latest Firefox 3, KSpread, KPresenter. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
kedit kword and konqueror dont use GTK. Your native desktop is kde# or gnome or xfce? I've tested on 2 machines, one is my Kubuntu Hardy desktop which uses KDE natively, second one is a plain UbuntuHardy desktop with Gnome only. On both of them I can see a ~2px - 3px thick border around the document area of most applications - plain text file editors, spreadsheets, etc. Both KDE and Gnome equivalents (Kword on Kubuntu - Abiword on Gnome, Kedit - Gedit, etc.). Interesting exception - Kspread doesn't exhibit this problem, it has no border and the scrollbar can be easily grabbed by moving the pointer to the extreme right, to the edge of the screen. Gnumeric on the other hand has the border, OOcalc too. The style settings on Ubuntu are synchronized between KDE and Gnome so this mechanism (and one particular theme - I'm using Plastik) might be to blame on Kubuntu. However, to my knowledge, nobody messed with the theme on the plain Ubuntu machine, which is a recently installed system shared by my cow orkers. It still exhibits this problem in GTK apps with the default Gnome theme (I suppose). -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
AleksanderAdamowski wrote: John, it seems I was wrong and this is indeed a GTK issue. I've unpacked chrome files shipped with firefox-3.0 Ubuntu package and tried to locate CSS border settings for main-window or browser or document, nothing significant was there. Then I've noticed that the Firefox scrollbars correspond to the GTK theme's scrollbars, they are even updated in real time if I switch GTK styles. So it seems that Ubuntu Firefox's default theme is closely integrated with GTK and it inherits GTK's problems. This would also explain why installing a different theme (like Nick Welch did) fixes the problem - 3rd party themes aren't integrated with GTK. I've tried verifying it in a different GTK application or even some QT, but all apps I've tried have some ridiculous border added to the whole document area (I've tested gedit, abiword, gnumeric, gnucash, oowriter, oocalc, kedit, kword, konqueror). This is quite a problem, BTW, as this severely impacts usability of a large group of basic apps. kedit kword and konqueror dont use GTK. Your native desktop is kde# or gnome or xfce? Do you know any well-behaving application (apart from Firefox) that doesn't create this useless border around its window that I could test with? Or maybe this is the problem with GTK itself, not those applications? I cant say as i am unable to reproduce this here in gnome. However if you see it in all those apps you may see it in any browser you use. Ubuntu-Mozilla-Team can you please try to reproduce this, I am unable to. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 103306 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103306 This has nothing to do with compiz. Firefox has an extra pixel of padding/border/whatever to the right of the scrollbar, which is the cause of the scrollbar not being right at the edge of the screen. I have never even had compiz installed and I've experienced this problem with Firefox for as long as I can remember on multiple Ubuntu machines. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 103306 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103306 I just installed the LittleFox theme and the annoying 1px scrollbar padding is gone. The problem is in Firefox's default theme. This could be a dead simple CSS change for someone familiar with the chrome. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 103306 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103306 So this bug is neither invalid, nor a duplicate. IMHO this is a perfectly valid issue that's fixable. Could someone please reopen it? -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
This is not a firefox issue its a theme issue but i am unablet o reproduce this using firefox2 and 3 default themee. What version of Firefox is this on and can you please give step by step instructions on how to reproduce this? I am going to leave firefox as invalid since noone thinks its firefox except for people seeing this issue. I would like a reason to call this a firefox bug before we reopen firefox task. ** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 103306 compiz eats mouse clicks at the border of the screen ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Incomplete ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
Reopening this task since it does sound like a gtk issue. AleksanderAdamowski, when you say its fixible do you have a solution to this issue that will fix it or you just feel its fixable? Please feel free to help fix this issue or find out exactly what package is causing it but as for right now im gonna have to stay with gtk issue ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Incomplete -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
This seems to be an issue with the Firefox's default theme, to it should be fixable by a tweak to that theme. Probably a simple change in chrome's CSS as Nick Welch suggested. When I install the Classic Compact theme (https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/addon/3699) and its configurator (https://addons.mozilla.org /en-US/firefox/addon/6969), then configure Classic Compact to Webpage window border: Disabled, then the scrollbar works fine at the edge of the screen. This is on the current official Ubuntu Firefox 3 package for Hardy (firefox 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1). The Default theme shipped with this package still exhibits the problem. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
John, it seems I was wrong and this is indeed a GTK issue. I've unpacked chrome files shipped with firefox-3.0 Ubuntu package and tried to locate CSS border settings for main-window or browser or document, nothing significant was there. Then I've noticed that the Firefox scrollbars correspond to the GTK theme's scrollbars, they are even updated in real time if I switch GTK styles. So it seems that Ubuntu Firefox's default theme is closely integrated with GTK and it inherits GTK's problems. This would also explain why installing a different theme (like Nick Welch did) fixes the problem - 3rd party themes aren't integrated with GTK. I've tried verifying it in a different GTK application or even some QT, but all apps I've tried have some ridiculous border added to the whole document area (I've tested gedit, abiword, gnumeric, gnucash, oowriter, oocalc, kedit, kword, konqueror). This is quite a problem, BTW, as this severely impacts usability of a large group of basic apps. Do you know any well-behaving application (apart from Firefox) that doesn't create this useless border around its window that I could test with? Or maybe this is the problem with GTK itself, not those applications? -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
Thank you for your bug. What version of Ubuntu do you use? Are you running compiz? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: New = Incomplete -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
I'm running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn, without Compiz. Actually, I work in KDE. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 103306 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103306 that's compiz bug #103306 ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 103306 compiz eats mouse clicks at the border of the screen -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 103306 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103306 How can I test whether Compiz is enabled? I didn't enable it nor any effects. -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125734] Re: Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect
this is not a firefox problem. Other GTK+ Application show this behaviour as well. Thus, I reassigned this bug to gtk+2.0. ** Also affects: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- Firefox scrollbar doesn't use the infinite size usability effect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125734 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs