[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-20 Thread Nick Sewell
I like screenshot 2, but it needs more work to make it simpler. The
music icon si good, but the others are too complicated, given that the
detail is so small.

Desktop: 2 bars is too much detail. What was wrong with the four arrows design?
Documents: OK, but a bit too small. Maybe an A to indicate writing?
Downloads: looks too much like documents. Maybe change to a simple globe or 
pipe design.
Music, Pictures and Videos are OK.
Public: Too complicated, and the icon is confusing, given the 'computer' icon 
in nautilus. Maybe a person icon or transfer icon. One note; if users want to 
set up samba sharing, this will get a transfer emblem.
Templates: Maybe just the small new symbol, without the document?

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-20 Thread Fred
You're doing it wrong.
Look http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Leopard_Desktop.png

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-20 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Noone is doing wrong, since the design is not yet started

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-20 Thread antistress
i'd really like something that would like 
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/388570/comments/1
Please keep the folder picture as basis for xdg-user-dirs icons and add an item 
that would mean video/picture/document etc.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-20 Thread Fred
Okay, but your mockups are bad (I hope you do not take any offense, because its 
a great idea!).
screenshot 1 - you use emblems. emblems should be attached to files/folders, 
not used as folders.
screenshot 2 - you use the file icons from mime type, that is very confusing.
screenshot 3 - you're on the right track here.

antistress,
wow that is pretty!

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-20 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
The mockups that I've proposed were only a temporary solution. now
that the patch is accepted into glib we should draw complete icons:
as I suggested, reporting from what developer say in the upstream bug,
the icons should not use emblems, but should be designed as the
user-desktop icon, or user-home

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-19 Thread Damiano Dallatana
I do really agree with Nicolò.

That feature should not reduce the immediate impression that Music or
Video are folders, not apps nor files.

* Full-size emblems w/o folder: seem to be something else (application?)
* Mimetypes: are really misleading, as they only represent a file
* Emblems: the folders keep on showing up as folders, but the emblem is not 
shown everywhere (not on panel, menu)
* Appropriate icons in places: it's the most difficult possibility, but it 
would be perfect. Obviously, they should not be a mere collage of a folder 
and another icon: the style should be that of the home folder icon.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-19 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
I've seen some users saying that they now have icons in nautilus.
Did someone commit a change to the icon theme, adding folder-foo?

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-19 Thread David Siegel
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: None = round-1

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-19 Thread Raul Marius Zay
First, this is a very nice and colorful but eyefriendly theme, Nicolo. ;)
This should be the default theme of ubuntu.
Second, i like your opinion and this were really neutral and not persistent 
icons, if the emblems are embedded in the folder-icon (like your home-icon). 
i looks not persistent (like your screenshot with the emblems on the edge) and 
beautiful at the same time. really really nice!!
I am looking forward to see this in future ubuntu versions. ;)

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-17 Thread David Siegel
Looks like this is well on its way to being fixed. Ken, will you keep an
eye on this one in case it needs anything from DUX?

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-17 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Remember that the patch in glib is NOT the one with emblems (that is
to say the last screenshot I attached), so new icons are needed.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-17 Thread Kenneth Wimer
The first thing we would need is icons for all the places...the emblems
don't fit (and would look even worse when you try to put an emblem on
them).

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-17 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Yes, in my opinion they should look like user-home folder

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-16 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
the GLIB part is fixed (in the sense that now the only thing that's
missing is icons)

interested people can follow here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387969

** Changed in: xdg-user-dirs (Ubuntu)
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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-13 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Note I didn't use emblem-foo, I preferred other icons (the most taken
from mimetypes) because they have more colors: emblems are just white
and orange. Do you want to see a screenshot with classic emblems?

I'm not so sure of the Public icon... comments?

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-13 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Currently there are 3 missing emblems from the standard icon naming spec :
- music (or sound)
- video (or multimedia)
- new

I don't know if it's a good idea to use standard emblems, unless someone
will manage to add them into the official naming spec.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Do you prefer this?


** Attachment removed: icons-glib-patch.patch
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27788763/icons-glib-patch.patch

** Attachment removed: papercut-icons-glib-patch.patch
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27788788/papercut-icons-glib-patch.patch

** Attachment added: Screenshot-1.png
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27812363/Screenshot-1.png

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Yann Dìnendal
No, they should look like folders, not like any other 'object'. The only
good way to do this, is to do new icons like the folder-home icon. It
will take more time, but I don't think we are in a hurry to change these
icons...

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
I'm not in a hurry. But if you don't have time, can you point me to a
simple guide on how to draw svg icons?
If it's not too hard I can try

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Download inkscape, open up an icon of the folder in it. Then open up one of
these icons, copy, drag it over (or import or open, don't remember which),
do a bit of alignment and resizing, and you should be good to go :)

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
having folders with those icons looks weird, emblems are suppoed to be
used on the side of an icon not to replace it

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Anyway, upstream doesn't want emblems, so they replaced home and
desktop with full icons.
I agree with them, especially because it's not possible to see an
emblem in a 16x16 icon (for instance the panel or gtk file chooser)

I won't paste emblems inside the folder icon, I will try to propose
something better, if I will be able.
If you don't like it just tell me and I will try to improve the design

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Nicolò Chieffo

** Attachment added: icons-glib-patch.patch
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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
This patch is using emblems. No additional work is required. This could
be the final papercut patch.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
screenshot with emblems. do you like it?
Note I've emblemed also the desktop (and home), to have a more coherent design.
If you prefer I can keep it as the normal icon

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I like it.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-12 Thread Fred
Looks promising.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
To hundred paper cuts:
I know this could be considered as a feature, but this patch works, and has no 
problems. the only part to do is to dray icons. I've requested them also 
upstream to gnome-icon-theme.
Also my request was forwarded to the breathe icon theme from the ubuntu 
community.

** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Tags removed: hundredpapercuts

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Mat Tomaszewski
This is a bigger artwork issue, not really a papercut

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
this can be considered a papercut in my opinion, since waiting for someone (not 
you papercutters) to release new icons, the following can be used:
Documents - document.svg / emblem-documents.svg
Music - sound.svg / emblem-sound.svg
Pictures - image.svg / emblem-pictures.svg
Videos - video.svg / emblem-multimedia.svg
Downloads - www.svg / emblem-web.svg
Templates - emblem-new / emblem-new.svg
Public - folder.svg / emblem-shared.svg

And this is something that users will like.
If you still think it's not a good idea, close again and sorry.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread David Siegel
We may want to reconsider this as a paper cut, albeit a bit of a larger
one. Let's leave it New in hundredpapercuts for now.

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Patch updated to apply on glib unstable

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Papercut patch (screenshot soon)

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
It doesn't look bad, does it?
I need to edit the patch a bit to have fallback icons.

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Not sure if using nautilus emblems (as it looks like) as icons is a great
idea.

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Ok I will do other proposals. Would you prefer a folder with emblems?

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I would say that is best, yes.

Because a) that's how emblems are designed to use, b) they aren't meant to
be full-scale icons, so won't fit in with the other iconsets so much

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
I don't like emblems, because if the icon is small they won't be shown
(gnome panel for instance)
upstream doesn't want emblems either.
for isntance see the desktop icon and the home icon, thet used to have
emblems, but now they were redesigned completely.

I can't find a way to set a fallback icon if the icon is not found.
Any suggestion?
g_themed_icon_new () always returns something so I can't understand if
the icon is the one I've chosen or the new-file standard one.

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Re: [Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
No afraid I've never implemented icons like that, was just looking into it a
few days ago but then the need for it dropped. I'd say ask in #gtk

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-02 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Upstream wants to use separate icons (no emblems) so I asked to the icon
naming spec guru, and he told that the icon names should be folder-foo

So this is the new patch.
Anyway upstream seems really not so interested on giving different icons for 
xdg directories...
Is canonical interested?

** Attachment added: icons-glib-patch.patch
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27406199/icons-glib-patch.patch

** Attachment removed: icons-glib-patch.patch
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18330570/icons-glib-patch.patch

** Attachment removed: gio-xdg-emblemedicons.debdiff
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22589153/gio-xdg-emblemedicons.debdiff

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-06-02 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2009-02-13 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
This debdiff adds the required support. Now GIO supports emblemed icons, so no 
new icon must be designed!!!
Before applying this debdiff we need a patch to nautilus too.
Which is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/328743

Se you soon

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[Bug 126103] Re: should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs

2008-10-08 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
This is a patch to GIO, which selects some icons (missing from the icon theme 
of course new icons should be designed).
The patch to GIO makes nautilus pick up the correct icon.

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