[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-04 Thread Martin Pitt
When booting current gutsy with the feisty kernel, the hang does not
occur, so it is a VFAT specific kernel regression. Sorry for prematurely
closing the kernel task.

** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

** Summary changed:

- [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive
+ nautilus hangs on accessing vfat drives - statfs() blocks for a long time

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-04 Thread Martin Pitt
Confirmed here:

19545 12:28:26 statfs("/media/PittiHD",  
[...]
19545 12:29:25 <... statfs resumed> {f_type="MSDOS_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=16384, 
f_blocks=15254800, f_bfree=559138, f_bavail=559138, f_files=0, f_ffree=0, 
f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=260, f_frsize=16384}) = 0 <59.423616>

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-04 Thread Martin Pitt
This is evidently not a kernel bug. Mounting, ls, gnomevfs-ls, etc. all
work fine immediately.

I get this bug, too, BTW. I'll have a look at gdb'ing the problem.

** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
No, there is no correct backtrace attached yet

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread Nick B.
I thought maybe something had gone wrong with the upgrade, so I downloaded the 
latest daily live CD and it's still happening on the live CD.
Like Xavi Francisco  said, the length of time Nautilus hangs is related to the 
size of the drive. It's barely noticeable with a 2GB USB flash drive, but with  
a hard drive that is a few hundred GB in size Nautilus hangs for many minuets.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread Wousser
I hope I did it the right way.

** Attachment added: "backtrace nautilus"
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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread Michael R. Head
I take it the existing backtraces attached to this report aren't good
enough?

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the informations have been requested with an uri to a wiki page which
has explanations in the first comment to this bug, users interested to
an issue could read the comments

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Could anybody get a backtrace of nautilus while it's hanging? I don't
get the issue on my gutsy installation using a disk partition or an usb
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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread wusch
I'd like to help of course, but I don't know how to backtrace it. Would
you be so kind telling me? I really would like to see a fix until gutsy
release since it is an annoying bug :D

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-03 Thread Michael R. Head
What's the best way to go about getting a backtrace?

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-02 Thread Nick B.
I found out that I can access the drives through other programs while
Nautilus is frozen. I have all my music on my external drive and I can
play it off that drive with a media player while Nautilus is frozen. I
can also initially access the drive without any problems using a
different file browser other than Nautilus.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-02 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Target: None => ubuntu-7.10-rc

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-02 Thread Michael R. Head
Yep, this is really annoying. I have 2 500GB drives and 2 250GB drives
that I attach via a USB2.0 hub. I've been using this setup for a while
now, and have just upgraded to gutsy and run into this. It takes several
minutes to open the drives in nautilus.

I assume this has to do with the new "pacman" disk usage feature.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-02 Thread wusch
can confirm this bug too. It did not happen in feisty (though I only
used it to format and then to copy files to it, but there were no hangs
or lags at all). I reinstalled my computer yesterday with gutsy and all
latest updates. Everytime nautilus freezes, which is really anoying,
since nautilus takes a little time to come back after killing the
process. It is a Western Digital USB2.0 with 320 GB and fat32
partitioning, with around 40 GB of files.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-01 Thread Nick B.
I can also confirm this. I have an Iomega 160GB USB hard drive (FAT32)
and whenever I first try to access it, Nautilus hangs.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-10-01 Thread Cameron Gorrie
Happening here too, a Vantec Nexstar 3 external harddrive/Seagate 500GB.
The delay can be up to 5 minutes, on a Dell Inspiron 6400 (gutsy).

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-28 Thread Sika
Same problem here with a partition on my main HDD. I think it might be related 
to the kernel.
I had feisty installed and I updated the kernel to the gutsy one (see 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511974) (because my wifi chipset 
wasn't supported in feisty). The problem only happened when I used the gutsy 
kernel. No problem with the feisty one, using the same nautilus version.
I thought this was due to some sort of incompatibility but now I've just 
completely upgraded to gutsy and the problem is still here.

I think (but not completely sure) that at startup, I had the same
problem when fsck was trying to access this partition. I can check if
it's still happening if it is important for you.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-27 Thread Xavi Francisco
Same to me here, but I also noticed that the time taken to open the disk
is proportional to the size. So a 1 Gb USB drive takes a few seconds (10
or so) and a 250Gb USB drive takes about 10 minutes to mount. Using HTOP
I could also notice that the kernel process is using 100% of the CPU
while I cannot access the drive. When it stops being at 100% I can start
accessing the drive.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-25 Thread modred
I have the same bug. It affects both a Fat32 partition on my internal
SATA hard drive and a Fat32-formatted USB external hard drive.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-25 Thread Wousser
I can reproduce this bug. I Have an external usb disk drive containing a
fat32 partition and a ntfs partition. If I can help please let me know.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-19 Thread Cesium
Same symptom on first access to a FAT32 partition (added per the
standard recommendation for sharing data between dual-boot) on the same
internal SATA drive that gutsy is installed on.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-17 Thread Rocko
Can someone from linux-source look at this? It is still marked as
importance: ''Undecided'. Is it readily reproducible or do just some
people have problems with it?

Imho I think it's quite important, as having to waiting 30-60 seconds to
mount an external drive (during which all other nautilus windows freeze)
is very annoying.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-03 Thread Sebastien Bacher
opening a linux-source-2.6.22 task, maybe the kernel team knows about
some vfat issue

** Also affects: linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-02 Thread Mathias Gaunard
I am having this problem too, be it with IDE or SATA drives.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-09-02 Thread Rocko
I think the problem lies within the code that the system call
sys_statfs64 executes, perhaps when it calls the vfs code for the vfat
file system.

I straced sudo nautilus to stop it sending the request to any existing
process:

1. killall gnome-volume-manager
2. Attach drive
3. sudo -i
4. mkdir athena
5. mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 athena
6. strace -T -e trace=statfs64 nautilus athena/ 2>&1 | tee nautilus.log

On the console display, the strace output stops at:

statfs64("/root/athena", 84,

The long delay occurs at this point, after which the strace output
continues. The complete statfs64 call is:

statfs64("/root/athena", 84, {f_type="MSDOS_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=16384,
f_blocks=7322563, f_bfree=4030796, f_bavail=4030796, f_files=0,
f_ffree=0, f_fsid={0, 0}, f_namelen=260, f_frsize=16384}) = 0
<30.477798>

I did an strace on gnomevfs-ls and it doesn't call sys_statfs64 on
"/root/athena", which would explain why it executes quickly.

If I do the same on an ext3 drive, which brings up the listing very
quickly, instead of making a single call to sys_statfs64 on the folder,
it makes a number of very quick calls to statfs64 on the folder. An
example is:

statfs64("/root/500gb", 84, {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=4096,
f_blocks=120179764, f_bfree=10120650, f_bavail=10120650,
f_files=61063168, f_ffree=61031300, f_fsid={-446547190, 219755455},
f_namelen=255, f_frsize=4096}) = 0 <0.000216>

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-31 Thread Rocko
I can't see anything too unusual in those files except that I get two
"nm_policy_device_change_check" messages every five seconds in syslog.
But this happens whether the drive is plugged in or not.

Attached is a file showing:

(a) what appeared in syslog and messages when I plugged the drive into
Gutsy just now. Nothing was added to the logs after I issued the mount
command, which is when gnome-volume-manager experiences its delay. (My
drives are not automounting anymore after today's updates, so I had to
manually mount it.)

(b) what appeared in syslog and messages when I plugged the drive into
Feisty earlier.

** Attachment added: "syslog-messages-mounting-usbdrive"
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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That doesn't look like a nautilus bug if gnome-volume-manager is have
issues as well. Do you have anything about the drive to
/var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog?

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-29 Thread Rocko
Re my previous comment, after rebooting, my drives are auto-mounting
again, and now I can confirm a difference in operation between
automounting and manually mounting the drive:

a) If the drive automounts, gnome-volume-manager doesn't spend ages
doing something with it until I try to open it in nautilus. Then gnome-
volume-manager gets busy and nautilus freezes until it has finished.

b) If I manually mount the drive with sudo mount, gnome-volume-manager
immediately spends ages doing something with the drive. If I try to open
the drive in nautilus during this time, it freezes until gnome-volume-
manager is finished, but if I wait until gnome-volume-manager is
finished before opening nautilus on the drive, nautilus shows the
contents immediately.

This is on a freshly formatted drive. (gparted reports that 55.91 MB out
of 111.79 GB are used.)

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-29 Thread Rocko
I tried emptying the vfat drive completely of all files (including
trash), and it still experienced the delay in first opening nautilus.

I tried reformatting the drive using gparted (which incidentally crashed
when it went to rescan the drives afterwards, and now my external drives
no longer automount), and there is still the delay in first opening
nautilus.

The behaviour does seem slightly different from before, though. Now when
I mount the drive manually, its light flickers for a while during which
gnome-volume-manager and usb-storage consume the most CPU cycles (4-5%).
Also during this time, umount reports that the device is busy. gnomevfs-
ls still works at normal speed during this time.

When all this finishes, if I run nautilus on the directory, it appears
pretty much instantly. So now it seems there is some automated process
running when the drive is mounted instead of when nautilus first tries
to access it, but nautilus is still freezing waiting for this process to
complete.

The only software difference I can see is that hal is now at
0.5.9.1-1ubuntu3 instead of ubuntu2 and nautilus is 1:2.19.90-0ubuntu1
instead of .91-0ubuntu1.

I checked again that this delay isn't happening on my external ext3
drives.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-28 Thread Rocko
gnomevfs-ls is fast. I tried it on the drive immediately after mounting
it and it works pretty much instantly. If I mount the drive, then try to
open it in nautilus, then run gnomevfs-ls on the drive, it works
straight away, even while nautilus is frozen.

I haven't thumbnailed the files on the drive, but there is about 80 GB
in 1800 files, so I need to find some spare room elsewhere before I can
move the files off the disk to test it on a blank one.

Nautilus in Feisty doesn't experience this delay when I first open this
disk, by the way.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
No, nautilus doesn't run fsck on the disk. Could you try gnomevfs-ls on
the disk, is it as slow as nautilus? Do you have files which are
thumbnailed on the disk? Does it happen with a blank one?

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => New

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-27 Thread Rocko
I noticed that the drive light flickers furiously during the delay.
Might nautilus be trying to build a directory listing or run fsck on the
drive?

I tried an "strace nautilus " command, but the process detaches
before the delay starts.

I installed tribe5 from scratch in case it would fix it. It fixed
another problem (drives not automounting) but not this one.

gnome-volume-manager is at 2.17.0-2ubuntu1 (or maybe I mistyped it in
earlier - my previous entry didn't have a '2' in front of ubuntu1).

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-27 Thread yostral
I can add that does it with my vfat usb hdd, but not with my vfat usb
key.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-26 Thread Tom Vetterlein
Ditto here too, FAT32 formatted iPod.

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-26 Thread Majorix
I have the same problem too. Any fix?

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-26 Thread yostral
I have exactly the same problem. When I plug in a vfat external usb HDD,
Nautilus freezes during about 30 secondes before I can do something
(except using other programs like firefox). The window of hdd content
opens, but nothing appears and I have the "waiting cursor".

I've attached a backtrace file, but nothing happens, it's not a crash. I
had to stop manually the gdb process (Ctrl+C) when "continuing".

I don't do anything special to mount my drive, I just plug it in.

It does that with both 2.6.22-9 and 2.6.22-10 kernels on 32 and 64 bits.

If you need more informations...

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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-22 Thread Rocko
I've attached a backtrace of the command 'nautilus' run on the offending
directory, but it doesn't look very useful. Nautilus doesn't crash, it
just hangs for a long time (in the log, the delay starts after the lines
'Initializing gnome-mount extension; /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found'
appear) . After that, it's fine. On subsequent accesses, it runs at
normal speed.

In this instance, I'm mounting with the command:

sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdf1 ATHENA

The mount command runs quickly. If I do

ls ATHENA

the listing comes up quickly.

But when I run "nautilus ATHENA" (whether I have run the 'ls ATHENA'
command or not), the nautilus window appears, but there's a long delay
before it is filled with the directory listing. During this delay,
already open Nautilus windows don't respond, either, nothing launches
from the Places menu, and nautilus doesn't launch from the command line.
Then it all fires back into life after the delay is over (eg lots of
Nautilus windows launch if I've tried to run them).

I have noticed that while Nautilus is frozen, either nautilus, gnome-
volume-manager, or usb-storage tend to run at 4-7% of CPU, which is
unusual.

This delay used to happen when I first installed Gutsy tribe 4, back in
the days when gnome-volume-manager/gnome-mount could auto-mount the
external drive (it can't anymore - see bug 132349). It would mount the
drive, then when I first tried to access it through nautilus, I'd get
this delay. I can't test it now because I can't get the removable drives
to auto-mount anymore. :(

Some application versions I'm running are:

gnome-volume-manager 2.17.0-ubuntu1
gnome-mount 0.6.1-ubuntu2
nautilus 1:2.19.90-0ubuntu1
hal 0.5.9.1-ubuntu2

I've tried with both the 2.6.22-9 and 2.6.22-10 kernels.


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[Bug 133567] Re: [gutsy] long delay in nautilus on first access to vfat drive

2007-08-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thanks for your bug report. Please try to obtain a backtrace
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash and attach the file to the
bug report. This will greatly help us in tracking down your problem.
Does it happen when using a fileselector? How do you mount the drive?

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   Status: New => Incomplete

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