[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Fix Committed = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Tags added: udp ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Tried in 11.10 ( in french) : Impossible de lire le DVD. Il se peut que le DVD soit chiffré et qu'aucune biblithèque de déchiffrement ne soit disponible. in other Words the user just know that it's missing a decrypting library but no clue on how to install it. Isn't the pacth for Totem ready ? Why it's not included in ubuntu ? Legal threats ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Yes. Developers upstream think we can't legally point users to instructions about installing illegal software. :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Interressting because the ubuntu man pages ,( which is the first google result for play dvd ubuntu) suggest to launch the DVDread script which install the libdvdcss deb. Why not ( a bit like for codecs) suggest that if it's legal in your country ( which is in France, for example ) , you could just Hit the right Button , and the other button would redirect to teh ubuntu Store for Buying Fluendo DVD . if it's too risky , at least explain and propose to buy the fluendo DVD player, current situation is ridiculous and all the work at fluendo is then useless ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
@thimothy : I think you are a bit wrong. We could have said the same thing 3 years ago when gnome-code-install ( Which propose to install a gstreamer package when a codec is needed) was developped. the status here is a bit different as libdvdcss is not even in Universe but launching install-css.sh after the user have clicked on Ok should be an easy task. However I see you point in telling the user that there are legal solution like the fluendo DVD player with is Payware, BUT it's only available on some architecture. I guess Presenting both solution in the resulting dialog box could be great. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Timothy: That's not a reason to close the Paper cuts task and not the Totem task. If there's no problem, both have to be closed. That said, I strongly disagree: the error message is clearly not enough to allow the user to make a correct choice. How would one find out that it can buy a codec or install libdvdcss2 without a link to a help page? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
if we stick to the bug subject notify users about installing , I understand timothy wants to close the bug. But shouldn't the bug reporter wanted to tell that Totem should propose to install the require components ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
The original bug post was about making this problem easier to solve for beginners. The message at this time was: Error occured, unable to read from the resource It is now: Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed. I think this is enough to close this bug as the user now has enough information to start googling a solution. I don't think that telling the user to install libdvdcss2 is necessarily the right thing to do as it is not the only option they have, and also there is the legal issues surrounding it. Other options include buying a commercial DVD player from the Ubuntu store. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
For Info , on 11.04 today the Error message is more explicit : https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9-dclA7Phd2iT7SD- 0mqOA?feat=directlink Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 18 Apr 2011, at 15:12, Ivanka Majic 137...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: ** Also affects: ayatana-design Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags added: fitandfinish -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Papercutters, which is subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD Status in Ayatana Design: New Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Incomplete Status in Totem Movie Player: In Progress Status in “libdvdnav” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “libdvdread” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “libgimme-codec” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “totem” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Without libdvdcss2, Totem, VLC, and others are unable to play my original DVD-s. I know it's illegal to ship Ubuntu with libdvdcss2, but it could be in multiverse repos, and totem's plugin installer could install it, OR add the medibuntu repo to the list (but leave unchecked), then Totem's plugin installer should give a hint, to use that repo's libdvdcss2 to play your DVDs. Newbies wont find out how to solve this problem by theirself, go back to win, and then it will be harder to solve the bug #1 :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
It seems nobody is Working anymore on this when reading the Gnome Bug page ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Description changed: Without libdvdcss2, Totem, VLC, and others are unable to play my original DVD-s. I know it's illegal to ship Ubuntu with libdvdcss2, but it could be in multiverse repos, and totem's plugin installer could install it, OR add the medibuntu repo to the list (but leave unchecked), then Totem's plugin installer should give a hint, to use that repo's libdvdcss2 to play your DVDs. Newbies wont find out how to solve this problem by theirself, go back to win, and then it will be harder to solve the bug #1 :) + + - + Desired solution: + + When a user tries to play a dvd, a dialogue should pop up displaying the + following message: + + The DVD you have inserted cann't currently be played because the + supporting software has not been installed. This is because it is not + legal for Ubuntu to distribute this software in some countries. If you + are certain that it is legal for you to install this software in your + country, you can install it now. Would you like to install it now? + + yes install now no thanks ** Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: (unassigned) = John Lea (johnlea) ** Changed in: ayatana-design Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: New = Fix Committed ** Tags added: udo -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
thanks John. But No One can decide if it's legal or Not. But I agree it's still the best solution. We could however make it shorter : To play this commercial DVD, you need to install the DVDCSS library yes install now no thanks *Using the DVDCSS library might not be legal in your country. please check before using it. But does Ubuntu should fear legal threat with such an easy step ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/137527/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Also affects: ayatana-design Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags added: fitandfinish -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Changed in: totem (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Wouldn't it be acceptable to display a message along the lines of The DVD you have inserted cann't currently be played because the supporting software has not been installed. This is because it is not legal for Ubuntu to distribute this software in some countries. If you are certain that it is legal for you to install this software in your country, you can install it now. Would you like to install it now? yes button no button -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 Title: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Changed in: totem Importance: Unknown = Low -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
This is a repost from the GNOME bug report: If this has not yet been fixed I'd like to add my 2 cents. Obviously there's legal issues surrounding encryption but is important to provide the user with that knowledge. num = BVW_ERROR_DVD_ENCRYPTED; message = g_strdup (_(The source seems encrypted and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?)); Just doesn't cut it because it is less than useful in providing newbie friendly information. Something like essage = g_strdup (_(The source you're attempting to view seems to be encrypted and therefore can't be read. It is probably a commercial DVD. Please see: XYZ for more information regarding the issues involved.)); XYZ in this case would probably best link to the Ubuntu RestrictedFormats wiki in Ubuntu's specific case. This is probably the most common issue I get asked about by new Linux users and a small change like this could prevent a lot of headaches. Rich, you mentioned getting a fix committed.. any word on this? I don't ask to be pushy I just know what a difference in usability this would make for new users. Thanks. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Ari Torhamo's comment is absolutely correct - that is simply unacceptable behavior, especially when the fix is simply to give the user a little bit more information. Can we aim to get this fixed by Thursday? Dave? -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
VLC should come by default in Ubuntu 10.04, since it reproduces any type of video and DVD, without any problem. Totem codec support is awful. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Contemporaneo: This is not related at all wirh the present report. When CSS support is installed, Totem works just fine with DVDs, and recent versions have become quite good. Please report precise and documented bugs, rather than random rants. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
I have to say I'm astonished that in 9.10, the eleventh version of Ubuntu, when a user tries to play a movie DVD, he's greeted with Error occured, unable to read from the resource, instead of at least being given a pointer to the right help page. (The wrong help page would be the Totem movie player manual, which is the first result you get (in Karmic) when you search with the word dvd in the Help). The right result, Music, videos and photos, comes up seventh). I appreciate the difficulty to create a seamless user experience with media and codecs (on which a lot of great work has been done already), but at least we should lead the user forward to the next step. The further goal should be for example to let the user click a couple of OKs, be warned of possible legal aspects with understandable language and have the necessary codecs and other packages installed automatically. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Sounds good to me. Is it really more legally questionable to present these packages to people with a firm warning when the package is just a simple apt-get away? -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
The current situation is awful. Not a lawyer. I wont change status to new but, well, when the script to get the means to circumvent the css protection is already being provided, I hardly think running it would make matters worse. You've provided the vector already, which I think is the legally questionable part, why not use it. To be somewhat safer, manual input by the user -- it doesn't matter if you're clicking a button to agree or writing I absolutely assert this is legal in my region, *something* should be presented when you try to play on encrypted dvd. Something meaningful which should either resolve the problem: (Window title: enable DVD playback) Pick your location on this map. [map widget] [and in bold] Some regions have restrictive laws controlling playback of commercial DVDs, so be aware it may be illegal to enable playback if, for example, you do not live in X [where x is somewhere in which I can now declare I reside and have this problem go away] or, at least, make it very, very clear what the problem is and provide a link to a web search. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Fixing this bug doesn't look trivial at all, and even if it is currently a big issue, the One Hundred Paper Cuts project is devoted to easily fixable issues. Thus, I am marking this bug incomplete for One Hundred Paper Cuts. If you can provide accurate guidance for making it easy to implement for the developers, feel free to set it back to New. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Incomplete -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Added hundred paper cuts as I feel this is a major issue with new users. I have read many articles written by journalists who are discovering Linux for the first time via Ubuntu, and they have all commented that playing a DVD film just doesn't work, and the OS doesn't offer any help to allow this. I feel like this is something that could be solved fairly easily and would make new users have to do a lot less work to get a DVD going. I realise, however, that this is an issue that needs to be carefully debated, as it's not FOSS we're talking about here... but I'd like to offer it for discussion to the hundredpapercut team. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Hey Lumpy, I think you may have the wrong idea about this bug. From the upstream report, it looks like the issue might be that gstreamer is simply not handling the situation correctly, and thus is a gstreamer bug. Unfortunately, the upstream report is not all that clear, but it is assigned! Hopefully, its on track. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Changed in: totem Status: Unknown = In Progress -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
wordsmyth: I guess the code installation dialog only appears when you try to read an *unencrypted* DVD for th first time. Then, if you try with an encrypted DVD, it only fails, and it's always been the case in Ubuntu. At least the problem is, the first codec prompt should also explain how to read encrypted DVDs, that would help most users. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Changed in: totem (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: totem (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Even though I'm a newbie living in Australia, I soon figured out the problem with Totem. The annoying thing ISMicrosoft ships XP Vista with their Windows Media Player which AUTOMATICALLY plays DVDs. And the puzzling thing IS, on a previous installation - Ubuntu 8.10 - I got a pop-up window on Totem that said: TOTEM CANNOT PLAY THIS DVD. SHALL TOTEM SEARCH FOR PROPER CODECS? Which it did...and then the DVD played. Curious, non? This didn't happened when I installed Jaunty 9.4 -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Also affects: totem via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580396 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Change importance to LOW, I'v also reported bug upstream http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580396 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #580396 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580396 ** Changed in: totem (Ubuntu) Importance: Wishlist = Low -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Tags added: qa-jaunty-desktop -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Hi There: I'm an Australian resident and I finally managed to solve my problems with Totem - and VLC - with patiene and diligence, by using Google to seek what I needed to know i.e downloading Ubuntu Restricted Extras and appropriate DVD codecs. But I'm a newbie, and it took a helluva lot of work. If these instructions were readily provided by Totem VLC in their program, this wouldn't be necessary. Those with similar problems, download and install the Extras package and then go to Medibuntu : http://packages.medibuntu.org/ to download install the extra codecs : libdvdcss2 and w32codecs. Easy enough. But it took me an unconscionably long time to get there ... -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
At least there's an easy part to fix here: you shouldn't have to run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh. Instead, it should be run automatically by the post-install script of libdvdcss2. This does not bring any new legal issue, and makes things way simpler. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Ubuntu 8.10 let me know that my screen would work better if i installed a restricted driver but advised me not to as there might be some legal issue. I had to click 'Ok' to continue so presumably any legal issue would be my fault rather than the Ubuntu people. It worked great but, of course, i have uninstalled it now (honest guv), for legal reasons (although i didnt have any trouble at all while i was using it). -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Maybe we could ask the upstream guys to allow for a custom message on codecs that fail to install through totem's autoinstaller. Then, whoever packages totem can just customise the message for whatever distro they are using. For ubuntu, the message would probably include at least the following links/info: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=37(This one is good for those who want to pay money) http://medibuntu.org/ (This one is good for those who don't) The reason that the message needs to be custom is that different distros (like debian) handle these legal issues differently. (Before medibuntu was around, I used to use the debian mirrors on my ubuntu for these codecs) I would not be surprised that what I'm doing breaks some law, since I live in the US. But, I don't care, since I would be able to do this stuff on windows. I don't care if legal technicalities make it illegal for me to do those things on linux. That's just me. The issues of patents and copyrights is, and will probably continue to be, a contentious topic for the FOSS world, but providing information about the issues should not be. So that's my logic for a custom popup message. Practically speaking, if an upstream bug does need to be filed, the maintainer of the totem package should probably file it. They are the ones are going to maintaining it anyway. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
It shouldn't be. Changing to a more appropriate place. ** Changed in: libdvdnav (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: libdvdread (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Also affects: totem (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: totem (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: New = Confirmed -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to totem in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
libdvdcss2 circumvents the CSS encryption found on DVDs. Circumvention is not legal in many countries even if it is for use of legally owned DVDs. A distribution can not make a choice for user when it is legal matter. This is not same as flashplugin-nonfree. There is no question of legality in case of flash plugin provided by Adobe. Apart from that, libdvdread3 is already a dependency of gstreamer0.10 -plugins-bad. Also libdvdnav4 will be a dependency of gstreamer0.10 -plugins-bad, by the time intrepid is released. So Gstreamer, which is default backend for totem, will have full support for playing non- encrypted (region-free) DVDs provided all plugins were installed. -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
Why is this a bug against libgimme-codec? ** Changed in: libgimme-codec (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 137527] Re: Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD
** Summary changed: - [Gutsy] notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 + Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD -- Totem should notify users about installing libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 to read encrypted DVD https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137527 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
