[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
I tried "nmcli monitor" to monitor the wifi I noticed that it changed from Networkmanager is now in the 'connected' state Connectivity is now 'full' to Networkmanager is now in the 'connected (site only)' state Connectivity is now 'limited' and then the internet stopped working and a ? icon replaced the wifi icon I am using Ubuntu 22.10, Kernel: 5.19.0-23-generic ** Attachment added: "output of nmcli in monitor mode" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+attachment/5632901/+files/nmcli.png ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Tags added: oem-priority -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Changed in: gnome-shell Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Updated the bug link ** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues #2310 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/2310 ** Changed in: gnome-shell Importance: Medium => Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-shell Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Changed in: gnome-shell Remote watch: bugzilla.gnome.org/ #750260 => gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues #2310 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Tags removed: disco -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
I had not seen this issue for a long time. But now I see it again. Note that I am using Fedora 30 instead of Ubuntu, but this could very well be a non-distribution dependent issue, therefore I'm reporting here instead of opening a new issue in another bug tracker. The question mark appeared after I had been fiddling with the wireless connection settings in an attempt to connect to a Ziggo Wifispot via WPA2-enterprise (in the end I did not manage to connect). After that I connected to another wifi (that is now fully functional), I see the question mark. Some output from nmcli monitor: 'Aquaris X5 Plus' is now the primary connection wlp3s0: deactivating Networkmanager is now in the 'connected (local only)' state wlp3s0: disconnected Networkmanager is now in the 'connected (site only)' state 'Linksys WRE (Johan)' is now the primary connection wlp3s0: using connection 'Ziggo3F1518C' wlp3s0: connecting (prepare) wlp3s0: connecting (need authentication) wlp3s0: connection failed wlp3s0: disconnected wlp3s0: using connection 'Aquaris X5 Plus' wlp3s0: connecting (prepare) wlp3s0: connecting (configuring) wlp3s0: connecting (need authentication) wlp3s0: connecting (prepare) wlp3s0: connecting (configuring) wlp3s0: connecting (getting IP configuration) wlp3s0: connecting (checking IP connectivity) wlp3s0: connecting (starting secondary connections) wlp3s0: connected Networkmanager is now in the 'connected (local only)' state Networkmanager is now in the 'connected (site only)' state 'Aquaris X5 Plus' is now the primary connection -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
I will gather more info next time I see this. Rózsa Sándor ezt írta (időpont: 2019. júl. 11., Cs 15:42): > Hi, > > I am using Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. > > Cheers > Sándor > > Daniel van Vugt ezt írta (időpont: 2019. > júl. 11., Cs 3:50): > >> Sounds related, and maybe that's where the bug is. Although it's not an >> Ubuntu-specific issue... >> >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 >> >> That said, I haven't seen this bug in a long time. If you do see it, >> what release are you using? >> >> -- >> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug >> report. >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 >> >> Title: >> Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected >> >> Status in GNOME Shell: >> Confirmed >> Status in OEM Priority Project: >> Confirmed >> Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: >> Triaged >> >> Bug description: >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 >> >> Wifi connection status icon on the top bar shows a "?" even when >> connected to a wifi network. >> --- >> ApportVersion: 2.20.7-0ubuntu2 >> Architecture: amd64 >> CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME >> DisplayManager: gdm3 >> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10 >> InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-09-28 (11 days ago) >> InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Alpha amd64 >> (20170926) >> Package: gnome-shell 3.26.1-0ubuntu1 >> PackageArchitecture: amd64 >> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-12.13-generic 4.13.3 >> Tags: artful wayland-session >> Uname: Linux 4.13.0-12-generic x86_64 >> UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) >> UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo >> _MarkForUpload: True >> >> To manage notifications about this bug go to: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions >> > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Hi, I am using Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Cheers Sándor Daniel van Vugt ezt írta (időpont: 2019. júl. 11., Cs 3:50): > Sounds related, and maybe that's where the bug is. Although it's not an > Ubuntu-specific issue... > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 > > That said, I haven't seen this bug in a long time. If you do see it, > what release are you using? > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 > > Title: > Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected > > Status in GNOME Shell: > Confirmed > Status in OEM Priority Project: > Confirmed > Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > > Bug description: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 > > Wifi connection status icon on the top bar shows a "?" even when > connected to a wifi network. > --- > ApportVersion: 2.20.7-0ubuntu2 > Architecture: amd64 > CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME > DisplayManager: gdm3 > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10 > InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-09-28 (11 days ago) > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Alpha amd64 > (20170926) > Package: gnome-shell 3.26.1-0ubuntu1 > PackageArchitecture: amd64 > ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-12.13-generic 4.13.3 > Tags: artful wayland-session > Uname: Linux 4.13.0-12-generic x86_64 > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo > _MarkForUpload: True > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Sounds related, and maybe that's where the bug is. Although it's not an Ubuntu-specific issue... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 That said, I haven't seen this bug in a long time. If you do see it, what release are you using? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Is this related ? "...a Connectivity Checking feature was introduced. Ubuntu 17.10 and onwards, you are presented with a question mark in network status whenever a Captive Portal is detected. This new feature works by pinging the http://connectivity-check.ubuntu.com URL, time to time, in order to detect a captive portal." https://vitux.com/disable-connectivity-checking-on-ubuntu-for-public-wifi-captive-portals/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Project changed: gnome-shell-legacy-bugs => gnome-shell -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Questionmark changes back to normal after updating the system through update manager, but it happened to me at least twice, so it was not a fix that solved some connectivity issue, since the update went fine both times. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell-legacy-bugs/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
I recently realized that the problem with the Wi-Fi icon will be resolved by adding a VPN configuration from Network Settings and connecting to it. After that, the problem will be fixed forever. Even without connecting to the VPN. Also, after logging off, the problem will not come back. But restarting and shutting down the system will bring the problem back. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell-legacy-bugs/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Launchpad has imported 13 comments from the remote bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2015-06-02T03:12:42+00:00 Chris Murphy wrote: Created attachment 304401 screen shot control-center-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 There is a question mark icon in the upper right corner that turns out to be for the wired connection. A ? used in this manner suggests the system is confused about something, and wants me to know that it's confused, hoping I can do something about it. So I'd expect there'd be a notification or a way to get more information about what the confusion is about. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1722256/comments/0 On 2015-06-02T03:15:42+00:00 Chris Murphy wrote: Created attachment 304402 journal for this boot Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1722256/comments/1 On 2015-06-02T10:14:57+00:00 Bugzilla-x wrote: The menu bar is part of gnome-shell. The "?" you're seeing though means that the connectivity check failed. [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: Connectivity check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'. It's either a Fedora infrastructure problem, or a NetworkManager one. Reassigning to NetworkManager. See bug 750268 for a follow-up on the icon not being self-explanatory enough. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1722256/comments/2 On 2015-06-03T09:56:08+00:00 Thomas Haller wrote: This is the same as downstream bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1722256/comments/3 On 2015-08-31T09:48:34+00:00 Jan Vlug wrote: I have a similar problem with an unexplained question mark for a wireless connection that works fine. I seem to have this issue when I'm behind a proxy (both for wired and wireless network connections). Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1722256/comments/4 On 2015-09-08T10:38:43+00:00 Thomas Haller wrote: (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2) > > [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: Connectivity > check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with > 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'. In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL connection. It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking. We fixed that upstream in bug 747866 and commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=2a3a4eb16f9119bf434a28adc94c2684da8fd5e4 Note that this is largely a configuration issue. So, users must rectify their configuration, or (if the distribution installed configuration snippets) the distribution must fix the configuration file. For downstream/Fedora, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316 this will be done. Closing BZ as fixed. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1722256/comments/5 On 2015-09-08T14:34:09+00:00 Bugzilla-x wrote: (In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #5) > (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2) > > > > [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: Connectivity > > check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with > > 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'. > > In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL connection. > > It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking. Why? It protects the user's privacy, at least a tiny bit. > We fixed that upstream in bug 747866 and commit > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/ > ?id=2a3a4eb16f9119bf434a28adc94c2684da8fd5e4 If by "fixed" you mean "worked around", then yes. > Note that this is largely a configuration issue. So, users must rectify > their configuration, or (if the distribution installed configuration > snippets) the distribution must fix the configuration file. > > > For downstream/Fedora, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316 > this will be done. > > > > Closing BZ as fixed. This really isn't fixed. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #750260 https://gitlab.gnome.org/750260 ** Project changed: gnome-shell => gnome-shell-legacy-bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #750260 https://gitlab.gnome.org/750260 ** No longer affects: gnome-shell-legacy-bugs ** Bug watch added: bugzilla.gnome.org/ #750260 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 ** Also affects: gnome-shell-legacy-bugs via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell-legacy-bugs/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Could those having the issue add their journalctl log after triggering the bug? ** Also affects: gnome-shell via https://gitlab.gnome.org/750260 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Description changed: + https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750260 + Wifi connection status icon on the top bar shows a "?" even when connected to a wifi network. - --- + --- ApportVersion: 2.20.7-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME DisplayManager: gdm3 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10 InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-09-28 (11 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Alpha amd64 (20170926) Package: gnome-shell 3.26.1-0ubuntu1 PackageArchitecture: amd64 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-12.13-generic 4.13.3 Tags: artful wayland-session Uname: Linux 4.13.0-12-generic x86_64 UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo _MarkForUpload: True ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #750260 https://gitlab.gnome.org/750260 ** No longer affects: gnome-shell ** Tags removed: artful ** Tags added: disco -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oem-priority/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
Same problem here on Ubuntu 18.04. However adding dns=default to the [main] section of /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf makes it worse. 1. The question mark shows even if connected 2. DNS does not work anymore. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1722256] Re: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected
** Summary changed: - Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" when connected + Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722256 Title: Wifi connection status icon shows a "?" question mark when connected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-shell/+bug/1722256/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs