[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
the issue should be fixed in nautilus 3.5.4 (they dropped the treeview mode for the sidepanel) ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 Title: Browser: tree view rendering problem To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/18780/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Confirmed = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 Title: Browser: tree view rendering problem To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/18780/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Unknown = Low -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
Gods, this is assigned a LOW priority? I've got a lot of cuss words ready to go for you Sebastian, I almost threw away a folder containing important files because I thought it was empty. I thought Nautilus was pretending to be easy to use, nice clean interface not to scare away new users. Well, this bug alone shows how far you have to go to even pretend to compete. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
I can't help observing that comments like the previous one probably don't do much to promote a community where perspectives and needs are respectfully discussed, as they undermine an environment of constructive critique. It sounds like a user taking out frustration from a specific experience on a group of people who are putting (at least some) effort towards solving the frustration, and the use of general attacks like I thought Nautilus was pretending to be easy to use and scare away new users don't seem to add anything to a discussion of HOW Nautilus might pretend to compete on this topic. That said, Owlstead highlights the point that any visual miscues that make Nautilus less easy and clear to use, runs the risk of making Ubuntu less desirable to new computer users -- and that the same miscues can lead to risk of file loss by hasty users even when they do have a great deal of experience. It would be great if these points could be made a little more constructively -- if for nothing else, then for the fact that these bugs are public and seen and read by a pretty wide audience. I understand that there's a group making moves to redesign Nautilus altogether, I think something along the timeline of the Gnome Shell project. I wonder if they have taken this long-standing annoyance into account? -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
No really, this is serious, others of file managers have the right behaviour: * Konqueror, was KDE default before being replaced with dolphin. * Thunar, the default file manager in xfce. * And everyone's favourite: Windows Explorer since Windows 95 and File Manager in Windows 3.1 and probably earlier. (Those are the ones I've used. There are probably a lot more that have the right behaviour) This is not a: Well if you like that feature that much, just change your file manager. Other file managers that are default in other desktop environments can do this right, why the gnome default file manager can't? PS: Well Dolphin, the new default KDE file manager does have the wrong behaviour of nautilus, shame on it. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
No really, this is serious, other file managers have the right behaviour: * Konqueror, was KDE default before being replaced with dolphin. * Thunar, the default file manager in xfce. * And everyone's favourite: Windows Explorer since Windows 95 and File Manager in Windows 3.1 and probably earlier. (Those are the ones I've used. There are probably other file managers that have the right behaviour) This is not a: Well if you like that feature that much, just change your file manager. Other file managers that are default in other desktop environments can do this right, why the gnome default file manager can't? PS: Well Dolphin, the new default KDE file manager does have the wrong behaviour of nautilus, shame on it. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
Yes, please, take an eye on this bug because is annoying. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
I agree with everything that the initial poster said, and Spuerhund's comments, too. I vote: Yes to fix. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
Oh, by the way, KDE's Konqueror gets this right: see the attached snippet from a screenshot. ** Attachment added: Snippet from screenshot of KDE's Konqueror File Management tree. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16946024/Screenshot-homer%20-%20Konqueror.png -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
Bug #198135 is a duplicate of this one. Apparently the issue is still present in hardy alpha 5 -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
I agree with Wladston that this triangle is a serious issue. It impacts usability, because it pretends that there is some content even for folders which are not empty. Even if this misleading empty string is not so easy to fix because of the show only folders option - it should be possible to remove this triangle in the view in front of folders which do not have any content at all. Next improvement would be to hide it as well when the folder has no subfolders and the show only folders option is enabled. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
We have thousand of desktop bugs open at the moment, this one is low importance ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Low Assignee: Sebastien Bacher = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
Sebastian, I have read the discussion. I think this issue DO matter. It's not that it can be confusing - it just could be made better and more good looking Why not simply don't render the little triangle on the folders that doesn't contain any subfolder ? It's more natural, and the user doesn't need to click the arrow to find out that a folder has no subfolders - just the lack of the triangle would tell it. If the objective is to signal to the user that the folder is empty, one could just write next to it (empty folder) in italics, or place a special open-and-empty folder. Please, tell me what you think. -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
** Changed in: nautilus (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://launchpad.net/bugs/18780 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 18780] Re: Browser: tree view rendering problem
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Browser: tree view rendering problem https://launchpad.net/bugs/18780 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
