[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
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[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I had forgotten about this yet another thing Ubuntu refuses to even provide a workaround much less fix. Some quick notes - yes I want this fixed too (actually I've abandoned Ubuntu - they will ruin notifications, but not put a refresh in the network manager which is similarly broken, nor fix it - more of the automatic is broken but we won't give you a manual option theory). First, it isn't just monitors. My original problem was a laptop with a VIA chipset. The original driver had a few problems (mainly wiht 3d), but was usable (E-F). G or H broke it and removed the manual configuration. The VIA driver locked up constantly (no, they never fixed that), but I could use the default minimal VESA, but it was 800x600 although the bios and everything else said the screen was 1024x768. But now there was no way to tell X even to use a plain VESA mode of 1024x768 with what amounted to standard VESA monitor timings. There is no detection involved. Worse, it wasn't just removed from the distribution disk, it was removed from the repositories. If I wanted it, I would have to track down the old source and recompile from scratch. It isn't a big, complex job looking into strange driver code and hardware, it is just putting back one tiny freaking program into the repositories if not the main distro. Right now I can't tell it that my monitor is a plain, vanilla, standard VESA with resolution of 1024x768. VESA is not some complex or quirky hardware, it is a freaking standard! And Ubuntu doesn't support it. It isn't a high priority because their policy seems never to fix severely broken automatic configuration - either setup like this or ongoing like network-manager (they have time for vanity UI changes though), but at the same time rip out all the manual configuration so if your hardware is affected there is no way for you to fix it. I'm in the process of switching to Fedora (13) - it seems to be more stable, and although not everything is fixed, it has a large package library and so far they seem to be more friendly to older hardware. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
To quote maJongg.. I have been hit by the monitor not detected problem too, . I think the problem is very common, but is often mis-diagnosed as a driver issue. The problems has become a virtual show-stopper It was that for me. I tried to fix the problem (or at least get around it at least 2 years ago) I was running Ubuntu 8.x, and ended up with a 800x600 resolution. I recently installed version 10.04 and tried to resolve this problem again. At least the generic driver would do 1024x768. I have a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 with AGP8X card, and found out how to get around this problem. I have to echo the sentiments of majongg and TheZorch regarding this problem hindering the adoption of Linux, it certainly did for me!!. I spent at least a full day trying to get my monitor to display correctly. Thanks to the generous help from the forum. The main problem (let alone the monitor not being recognized), is that the software wildly guesses at the range of the HSYNC and VSYNC which it writes to the xorg.conf file. Thanks, Vic -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Vic Main 240...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: To quote maJongg.. I have been hit by the monitor not detected problem too, . I think the problem is very common, but is often mis-diagnosed as a driver issue. The problems has become a virtual show-stopper It was that for me. I tried to fix the problem (or at least get around it at least 2 years ago) I was running Ubuntu 8.x, and ended up with a 800x600 resolution. I recently installed version 10.04 and tried to resolve this problem again. At least the generic driver would do 1024x768. I have a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 with AGP8X card, and found out how to get around this problem. I have to echo the sentiments of majongg and TheZorch regarding this problem hindering the adoption of Linux, it certainly did for me!!. I spent at least a full day trying to get my monitor to display correctly. Thanks to the generous help from the forum. The main problem (let alone the monitor not being recognized), is that the software wildly guesses at the range of the HSYNC and VSYNC which it writes to the xorg.conf file. Thanks, Vic The quickest way this can be fixed is if the feature in the screen resolution window that let you manually select your monitor was put back where it belongs, or a new GUI was made just for the monitor that does the same thing. It is not the drivers, its Xorg and also the fact that this feature was removed from Ubuntu several versions back when it shouldn't have been. Honestly, this could have and should have been fixed long ago. What is the problem? Why hasn't this been dealt with in like 2 years? Don't tell me its not a high priority issue, it is a High Priority issue because this problem has prevented new users from adopting Ubuntu. This is serious, this a usability issue, and it needs to be dealt with ASAP. No other answer is acceptable, its been long enough, get this issue fixed. Its an embarrassment to the community that this problem has persisted for so long, and its an embarrassment to LaunchPad that this bug hasn't been made a high priority so it can finally get fixed. Pass this onto which even group this needs to go to and have them do something about this instead of letting the problem molder. -- Michael TheZorch Haney The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion. ~ Arthur C. Clarke The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge, and there is no place for it in the endeavor of science. ~ Carl Sagan Visit My Site: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1 To Contact Me: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1/zorch-central---contacts Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I was finally able to give an old laptop the 1024 x 768 resolution I knew the LCD could do (from the 800 x 600 + large gray border around it it did do because Ubuntu 9.10 did a monitor not detected on me) by adding an xorg.conf text file in /etc/X11 with just the following few lines only: Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor HorizSync 60-60 VertRefresh 43-117 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor Device Configured Video Device DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:03 PM, mahjongg mahjo...@xs4all.nl wrote: I was finally able to give an old laptop the 1024 x 768 resolution I knew the LCD could do (from the 800 x 600 + large gray border around it it did do because Ubuntu 9.10 did a monitor not detected on me) by adding an xorg.conf text file in /etc/X11 with just the following few lines only: Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor HorizSync 60-60 VertRefresh 43-117 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor Device Configured Video Device DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection I keep my settings from my original xorg.conf file around to copy paste into a new xorg.conf whenever I reinstall Ubuntu. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to enable the Nvidia drivers properly with it. -- Michael TheZorch Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Twitter: TheZorch | Skype: thezorch AIM: thezo...@gmail.com | Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 | GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I have been hit by the monitor not detected problem too, and at several times. With an old Targa monitor, but also with some laptop LCD's. I think the problem is very common, but is often mis-diagnosed as a driver issue. Since the introduction of a new x-system in Ubuntu 9.x the problems has become a virtual show-stopper. In the past Ubuntu had a tool to manually select a monitor that solved the problem. Now users are simply stuck with the default resolution of 800x600 which is quite unacceptable, especially on a laptop LCD that can do 1024x768. Ubuntu 9.x seems to work on the principle that it is always possible to auto-detect the capabilities of the Monitor, which is simply a fallacy! There are many reasons why the plug-and-play (auto-detect) mechanism for auto-detecting the monitor capabilities is simply not present or working. For example older monitors from the pre- PnP era, or monitors connected through the VGA port with a VGA to RGB cable (older trinitron monitors, with RGB RCA video connectors), or LCD's built into older laptop where the PnP mechanism isn't implemented, (because the display capabilities are fixed) all simply do not support the serial EEPROM with PnP monitor data. Or sometimes even if the monitor has these capabilities its not working for example because of a bad VGA cable that doesn't have (or it has but its broken) the wires for the serial EEPROM with the monitor capabilities. In any of these cases a non-technical user , (one that is lost when told to edit the xorg.conf file) is simply confined to 800x600, even if the video hardware and monitor combo can do much higher resolutions. A capability to manually select a monitor is essential, and should be provided. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Thank you Cefn, excellent work around. I have just installed 9.10 having previously used Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid and Jaunty and having to replace my trusty iiyama vision master pro 512 with a Sony Multiscan 520GS and swapping out my Belkin Omniview E-series KVM for the Avocent Switchview 100 KVM; which has sound. Kept the FX5200 graphics card. Somewhere along the line I lost control of the monitor refresh rate. I found the tech specs for my Sony Multiscan 520GS i.e. max resolution of 1600 x 1200 @75Hz etc. gtf to generate the modeline and edited xorg.conf in a terminal (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf): Section Monitor IdentifierSony CPD-520GS HorizSync 30-96 VertRefresh48-160 Modeline 1600x1200_75.00 205.99 1600 1720 1896 2192 1200 1201 1204$ EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Default Device Monitor Sony CPD-520GS DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200_75.00 EndSubSection EndSection Section Module Loadglx EndSection Section Device Identifier Default Device Driver nvidia Option NoLogoTrue EndSection NOW at last I have control! It shouldn't be like this. The only minor wrinkle is that I can't get the max resolution. The best I can do is 1400 x 1050 @ 70Hz but at least it's workable i.e. the I have control and the screen doesn't wobble any more. Failure to get the max res may be down to the KVM switch but having spent hours this morning I'm not about to put the monitor directly onto the pc to test this - I might do it later. NB. 1400 x 1050 @ 75Hz doesn't work and 1400 x 1050 @ 85Hz doesn't work, none of the 4:3 aspect ratio 1600 x 1200's work i.e. very strange distorted and dulled or absent image which luckily reverts back to the previous setting after a short while to give me the chance of another attempt. Thank you. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:52 AM, CymruAmBydd morusni...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you Cefn, excellent work around. I have just installed 9.10 having previously used Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid and Jaunty and having to replace my trusty iiyama vision master pro 512 with a Sony Multiscan 520GS and swapping out my Belkin Omniview E-series KVM for the Avocent Switchview 100 KVM; which has sound. Kept the FX5200 graphics card. Somewhere along the line I lost control of the monitor refresh rate. I found the tech specs for my Sony Multiscan 520GS i.e. max resolution of 1600 x 1200 @75Hz etc. gtf to generate the modeline and edited xorg.conf in a terminal (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf): Section Monitor Identifier Sony CPD-520GS HorizSync 30-96 VertRefresh 48-160 Modeline 1600x1200_75.00 205.99 1600 1720 1896 2192 1200 1201 1204$ EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Default Device Monitor Sony CPD-520GS DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200_75.00 EndSubSection EndSection Section Module Load glx EndSection Section Device Identifier Default Device Driver nvidia Option NoLogo True EndSection NOW at last I have control! It shouldn't be like this. The only minor wrinkle is that I can't get the max resolution. The best I can do is 1400 x 1050 @ 70Hz but at least it's workable i.e. the I have control and the screen doesn't wobble any more. Failure to get the max res may be down to the KVM switch but having spent hours this morning I'm not about to put the monitor directly onto the pc to test this - I might do it later. NB. 1400 x 1050 @ 75Hz doesn't work and 1400 x 1050 @ 85Hz doesn't work, none of the 4:3 aspect ratio 1600 x 1200's work i.e. very strange distorted and dulled or absent image which luckily reverts back to the previous setting after a short while to give me the chance of another attempt. Thank you. This is why Ubuntu, and X.org in general, needs to have a way to manually select what type of monitor you have in a GUI. This problem has persisted long enough, when will this be resolved? Its now beyond time for this to be fixed. Its ridiculous that such a simple matter as this has been allowed to molder this long, and its such a vital component of the operating system ... the Display. Without it you can't use Ubuntu at all. Why hasn't this problem been resolved? This problem has existed in Ubuntu since 8.04. Having to edit a config file (ie; xorg.conf) to get something as simple as this to work properly in a Modern Day Operating System is absolutely unacceptable. Canonical needs to stop putting their heads in the sand and fix this embarrassment. -- Michael TheZorch Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Twitter: TheZorch | Skype: thezorch AIM: thezo...@gmail.com | Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 | GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Well, as the bug i reported was marked as a duplicate of this one (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/260436), which I agree with, i'm leaving a comment to remark that this behavior not only happens for undetected monitors, but with most cheap KVM switches out there (which make the video card unable to detect the monitor). Of course finding the monitor modeline and setting an entry on xorg.conf fixes the problem, but then user is left to its own luck to find the correct modeline on the internet (or the monitor docs, -in case he/she still has them-). A proper configuration window to allow selection of the monitor model (or similar) would be ages more userfriendly in case of unable to detect... ubutu already had that functionality, but it was taken away, which i feel is sad.. so why is this on wishlist? -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
As a workaround, for those who can run command line tools, there's instructions how to generate the appropriate modelines and where to stick them in xorg.conf in a comment in the duplicate bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/260436/comments/18 ...which has apparently been useful to some. I'll try to restate them more clearly here. They rely on two tools - gtf and xrandr - and a text editor. xrandr should be invoked with no arguments to tell you the names of your displays. These are the names which should be used in the xorg.conf later. Here's the output shown in my command line. c...@cefn-linux-tablet:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 768, maximum 1440 x 1792 VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) LVDS connected 1280x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1280x768_60.00 60.0*+ 1280x768 59.9 + 1024x768 85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0 1024x600_60.00 60.0 832x62474.6 800x60085.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 640x48085.0 72.8 75.0 59.9 720x40085.0 640x40085.1 640x35085.1 TV disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) Then gtf can be invoked to create a modeline suitable for you based on what you know about your display, maybe from reading the manual. c...@cefn-linux-tablet:~$ gtf 1440 900 60 # 1440x900 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 55.92 kHz; pclk: 106.47 MHz Modeline 1440x900_60.00 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync Finally you should create an entry in your xorg.conf which combines all these bits of information. It's advisable to save a copy of your old xorg.conf with a new name, like xorg.conf.bak. In some cases your existing xorg.conf will be blank. My modified xorg.conf looked as below. Note the declaration of a virtual resolution which was wide enough to put the displays side by side or above each other... Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor EndSection Section Monitor Identifier VGA Modeline 1440x900_60.00 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor Device Configured Video Device SubSection Display Virtual 1440 1700 EndSubSection EndSection Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection Once you've made these edits, and you log out and log back in, the new modeline should be visible even in your graphical tool like grandr. If not, you can invoke the display changes using xrandr. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I was told by someone in an Ubuntu support mailing list that you can make a copy of the xorg.conf file that has the proper video card and monitor configurations and overwrite the xorg.conf file in a new install which doesn't properly detect these settings and the copied file will work. Is this true? The next release of Ubuntu is coming up and I want to do a full reinstall rather than an upgrade, so can I use my existing xorg.comf file to make my current display settings work properly? -- Michael TheZorch Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Skype: thezorch (Voice and/or Chat) AIM: thezo...@gmail.com Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your Computer from the Tyranny of Microsoft www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Eric, that just means you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9 or 16:10 monitor or something. Maybe you're using -vesa, which has very limited support for widescreen resolutions. In any case, it's a lesser detail and not directly relevant to this bug report. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
** Changed in: x-kit (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: xorg = x-kit -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I posted here a few days ago and have another observation. the objects that should be displayed as regular ( perfect ) are elongated left to right. I hope that when someone has time for this that this information is helpful. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
such agressive behaviour is not welcome on bugs, that's not up to you to say what other people have to do those contributors there are mostly volunteer doing work on their after work hours to fix issues, nobody removed something working the new tool use the current xorg api where the other told was hackish and has many issues and buggy cases -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On 3/7/09, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote: such agressive behaviour is not welcome on bugs, that's not up to you to say what other people have to do those contributors there are mostly volunteer doing work on their after work hours to fix issues, nobody removed something working the new tool use the current xorg api where the other told was hackish and has many issues and buggy cases Then what is being done to resolve this? Give us a solution to this, its a perfectly reasonable request. I am sorry for getting angry, but I've been waiting a very long time for a fix to this problem and have yet to receive an answer. Don't ignore us, help us, please. -- Michael TheZorch Haney thezo...@gmail.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Then what is being done to resolve this? Nothing right now apparently by lack on manpower but you are welcome to starting working on the issue on find somebody interested in tackling that -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
those comment about how things are urgent and have to be fixed now will not make those fixed faster, quite the contrary if you insist on blaming the graphical tool where the issue is also in infrastructure it's using, nobody disagree that should be fixed but that's not as easy as you seem to think -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
It is horribly difficult to put back an existing manual configuration utility that was present in a recent version? That is the original solution I wanted. Fixing every possible permutation of hardware in the automatic config would be horribly difficult, but that seems to be the only thing you might be willing to do. I simply want SOME mechanism to configure my laptop, and I had one, and it went away and the replacement is broken. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote: those comment about how things are urgent and have to be fixed now will not make those fixed faster, quite the contrary if you insist on blaming the graphical tool where the issue is also in infrastructure it's using, nobody disagree that should be fixed but that's not as easy as you seem to think -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I hope that I am putting this information in the right place. I would also like to preface this problem with the statement that ubuntu 8.1 and XP have a similar track record with this problem with me. I have a 2.6.24-23-generic (#1 SMP Thu Nov 27 18:13:46 UTC 2008)Kernal, gnome,quad6600, atiradeon rv250(open source driver), intrepid 8.1 all updates no (compiz or fusion or) desktop effects. I recently bought a new monitor.samsung 2333SW lcd 23. the monitor is not recognized by the capplet (configure display settings). the resolution is not optimal. I do not know how to change the resolution. I have forgoten the comand for my Xorg version and the version does not show up in the sysinfo application. the current resolution is 1024*768 48Khz 60Hz NN. the best resolution is 1920*1080. My situation is improved from the previous monitor but I am hopeful that I will be able to use the better resolution soon. perhaps I will find more information on this issue if I use different search key words but this was the closest I could find. It would be nice to have a few more designated key words(areas or connections in the database) ATI,MONITOR,Nvidia above I noticed that there was a request for some info. I have provided it below. r...@eric-desktop:/home/eric# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13) 04:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01) r...@eric-desktop:/home/eric# r...@eric-desktop:/home/eric# lspci -vnn 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller [8086:29c0] (rev 02) Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Device [147b:108e] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information ? Kernel modules: intel-agp 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port [8086:29c1] (rev 02) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: b000-bfff Memory behind bridge: fde0-fdef Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fd90-fd9f Capabilities: [88] Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable+ Capabilities: [a0] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00 Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver Kernel modules: shpchp 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 01) Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Device [147b:108e] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fdff8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 01) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff Memory behind bridge: fdd0-fddf Prefetchable memory behind bridge:
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Saying that this is a harder than you might think problem to fix is a cop out. How hard is it to add a manual configuration tab to the screen resolution app so you can tell X Windows to use X type monitor settings when its auto-configuration method gets it wrong. No, this not only needs to be fixed it must be fixed. The feature should never have been removed in the first place it was a bad call to do so. Let me put it this way, this missing feature is hindering the adoption of Ubuntu by new users, period. Fixing this should be high-priority, no excuses. The only acceptable outcome is to fix this before the next release of Ubuntu, not doing so is a failure of the development community to listen to the needs of the user base. -- Michael TheZorch Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Skype: thezorch (Voice and/or Chat) AIM: thezo...@gmail.com Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your Computer from the Tyranny of Microsoft www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Low = Wishlist Status: Invalid = Triaged -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Thanks for posting this bug notice. Yes, I too have the issue. I'm using one of those infernal integrated Motherboards (has AGP video and sound, etc., integrated). I think it is an intel video set. Ubuntu does allow my monitor to run at 1024 by 768, but doesn't recognize it and lists it as Unknown. Further, when I run video tests on the gnome desktop via the Administration Test Hardware program, it does test correctly and set up my monitor w/ 85 mhz setting (correct, I believe). However, it does offset the image slightly from windows xp's settings (the image drifts right about a quarter to half inch under linux -- I use the same monitor hooked to two machines using a switchbox). I'd appreciate this being fixed. Using the older Linux versions, I could just TELL Linux to use a Diamondtron (or was it Gateway?) monitor. Needs to be fixed next time out. Loving Ubuntu, so don't get me wrong. Jon Trott -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
the issue is not specific to the GNOME capplet ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low Status: New = Invalid -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
reading again the description it could be a feature request for the capplet, the screen detection should be just working in xorg though and there is no plan to add monitor configuration to this capplet -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote: reading again the description it could be a feature request for the capplet, the screen detection should be just working in xorg though and there is no plan to add monitor configuration to this capplet No monitor configuration options in the genome screen resolution capplet is a serious limitation and is poor design. Users who encounter this problem face a long and frustrating process of trying to fix Xorg's inability to properly detect the video modes their hardware can support. This is an option that should never have been removed and should remain a part of the capplet in all future versions in the event Xorg fails to properly detect video settings. This is a common sense option that most users would expect to find. The lack of this option in the current versions of Ubuntu has forced many new users to abandon the operating system because there is no simple solution to fix the screen resolution issue. The addition of this option to the screen resolution capplet must be regarded as Critical. -- Michael TheZorch Haney thezo...@gmail.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
** Also affects: gnome-control-center (Baltix) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary2008/03/18/07/35/55-the-value-of-a-meaningful-xorg-c Here's a good read about why a good xorg.conf file matters. It's not related directly to the bug, but it touches the matter of having a self-explanatory xorg.conf file instead of an almost empty one while xorg's autodetection is not perfect. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Assignee: (unassigned) = Alberto Milone (albertomilone) Status: Incomplete = Triaged -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I've linked 2 relevant blueprints to this bug. -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
