[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Personally, my bottom panel is full of more important things like the workplace-switcher. I don't interact with my trash bin very often, but that makes it all the more frustrating that it's not in any obvious place. The "places" menu is exactly where it belongs, since it's implemented as a special folder. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 Title: places menu should include the trash as a place To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/25977/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
** Changed in: gnome-panel Importance: Unknown => Wishlist -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher (seb128) => (unassigned) -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. And thanks to the feedback from the Accessibility team. However, a paper cut should be a small usability issue, in the default Ubuntu install, that affects many people and is quick and easy to fix. So this bug can't be addressed as part of this project. As mentioned earlier, - Trash applet needs fixing to properly be read as "Trash" - Adding one more item to the Places menu would be duplicating the trash applet for a default install. - If the trash is frequented by a user often , it can be easily bookmarked [ added to the Places menu ]. - Citing inconsistency with "Go" menu is not a valid argument , since the Places menu has items which are not present in the Go menu and vice-versa. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Incomplete => Invalid -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
I am of the opinion that the applet's accessibility properties should be fixed instead. If users want to go into the trash, then they should find it on the panel. Having said that, we could probably make it easier somehow if one uses an accessibility profile to install/run the live CD. I am more enclined to set up a shortcut key if possible, to open the trash. Thoughts? -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Dear Alan. You are right. But blind people are not going to delete the item by dragging it into the bottom panel. Rather, they would hit the delete button and later if they plan to do an undelete, finds it difficult to locate the trash from the bottom panel. Hence it would make some real sense if we can pull a menu item under places menu. -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
I think we have to separate the operations one might do with the trash system. The function of the applet is primarily so that stuff can be dropped on it to be deleted, so we have the "deleting stuff" use case. One might also want to undelete something, which involves opening it up as a folder and moving one or more files to another location where a file could be put, the "undeleting" use case. Finally one might want to permanently delete the contents, or "empty the trash". The applet is in a corner of the screen (see Fitts law) and is well placed for dragging stuff with a mouse onto it to delete it. If you are using a keyboard the delete key does the same thing, so it is in fact easier to perform the deleting stuff use case from the keyboard. If you want to do some undeleting or arguably if you want to empty the trash then you are thinking about it in a "its a folder" mindset and it is logical to find it via nautilus. -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Thanks Vish, much appreciated ! -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
The Fix suggested here would effectively mean duplication of the "Trash" in a default install.[applet and in places menu] @arky: The Go menu also lists Templates folder, should that be in the Places menu too? As mentioned earlier , we already have a trash applet by default , the issue is with the Description being "Menu" , that needs fixing rather than duplicating. Further the trash can be added as an extra bookmark, if frequently used. [I do realize the accessibility work you do for blind users though :) ] I'v raised this issue with the accessibility team and marking as incomplete awaiting their assessment. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Incomplete -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Nautilus > Go menu already lists a 'Trash' item right under computer. I suggest that we should provide a trash item under computer in places menu. ** Attachment added: "Screenshot.png" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48074275/Screenshot.png -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Wolf gets the idea very clear. His case study is very accurate and supports the idea for adding 'Trash' to the 'Places' menu. -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Not everyone notices a small icon at the bottom right corner of the screen. One could expect to have the Trash in the Places menu, since everything else is there already. (Home folder, Desktop, Documents, Removable media...) I agree that it is an inconsistency with Nautilus's Go menu and I personally never use the Trash icon at the bottom right on the panel. I have asked Ubuntu-illiterate users to find the Trash, and their first reaction was to go in the Places menu, not to look for an icon that looks like an empty glass of water, I mean, like a trash can. My first reaction as an experienced Ubuntu user is to add it to the Places menu using Nautilus's Bookmark menu. If "Home Folder", "Desktop" and "Computer" are there, why not "Trash"? -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Sajjad wrote : The users are unable to locate the Trash from the bottom panel as there is no description over there. It just says 'Menu'. Shouldnt the proper fix be, to add the description and make it say "Trash" , Why the need for duplication? [trying to understand the problem they face] Also to note is that the Trash can be bookmarked and added to the list if user is so frequently using it. Why keep extending the list by adding more items and making it a default? We dont have Templates or Public folder either by default. They are places too. -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Vish, The users are unable to locate the Trash from the bottom panel as there is no description over there. It just says 'Menu'. The Trash is a place to like any other places shown listed in the Places menu, hence this would be an advantage for them. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Incomplete => New -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
Sajjad, Arky: Why is this an ally issue? Aernt users able to bring up the trash from the panel?. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Incomplete -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium => Wishlist ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
** Changed in: gnome-panel Status: Unknown => New -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #617726 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617726 ** Also affects: gnome-panel via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617726 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
It also feels like a consistency issue. The Go menu in Nautilus, as well as its Places sidebar, lists Deleted Items. Other than that one item, the Places menu has similar content. -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
This is an accessibility issue. It would be very useful for the blind users if we have a 'Trash' menu item in the 'Places' menu. ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => New ** Tags added: a11y ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 25977] Re: places menu should include the trash as a place
** Also affects: gnome-panel (Baltix) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- places menu should include the trash as a place https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25977 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
