[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-04-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 240916 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 240916
   can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-04-10 Thread Cefn
Glad I could help 3vil. It's a shame that there's no mechanism for
ordinary people to achieve the same thing, for whom manually editing
xorg.conf is a step too far.

After all it only takes three gui fields and a go button! All the other
tools are already in place - gtf, gnome resolution config, etc. I often
wish I had the means to author this kind of software myself but I think
it's a bit beyond me.

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-04-08 Thread 3vi1
@Cefn:

Thank you very much for posting the gtf command and xorg changes!  I ran
into this issue today while attaching a machine to a KVM and could not
get it to work until I saw your workaround.

It's pretty frustrating when the GUI gives you no options other than
320x240 and 640x480 because DPMS doesn't work through the KVM.

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-10 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
can you force the resolution using the xrandr command line tool?

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Re: [Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread rengolin
I can't reproduce it again since I don't have the splitter any more.
Sorry.

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
closing the bug since it lacks details to be worked

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Cefn
Could you reopen this bug. I can reproduce it and still have a KVM which
prevents the autodetection capability from working.

My suggestion that this should remain open is based on Bryce's
interpretation of the bug/feature request earlier in this thread...

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-
center/+bug/260436/comments/7

I can specify the changes which are required to xorg.conf and the xrandr
invocations needed (if necessary - no doubt the Gnome resolution people
know this stuff too).

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
what do you call xrandr invocations needed

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Cefn
I'm referring to your request a few hours ago...
can you force the resolution using the xrandr command line tool?

Yes you can force it using xrandr, assuming that you have edited
xorg.conf properly. I've carried out these steps and proven that you can
force the correct resolution regardless of auto-detection, through a KVM
which suppresses the ordinary auto-detection signals.

My suggestion is to permit users to manually specify modes in the
graphical tool, and have the gnome screen resolution tool make the
required changes to xorg.conf just as it does today with virtual
resolution. It's to add this feature to the ubuntu environment that the
original request was about - not having to manually edit xorg.conf. It's
for this reason I'd like to keep the bug open and provide any maintainer
with more information about the request.

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
could you run xrandr or a command line and copy the log to the bug? what
xorg change did you do? the graphical tools should list the same option
than the xrandr command

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Re: [Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread rengolin
 It's for this reason I'd like to keep the bug open and provide any maintainer
 with more information about the request.

Agreed. It's not because I can't reproduce it any more that the bug is
invalid.

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the bug has been closed because it lacks informations to be worked

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Cefn
The graphical tools DO list the same options as the xrandr command. That
means that if the autodetection has failed to identify a valid mode by
autodetection, you are screwed unless you like to edit xorg.conf. Then
these options show up in xrandr and in the graphical tool.

To fix the problem I had to manually generate a line using gtf thus...
 
c...@cefn-linux-dell:~$ gtf 1440 900 60

  # 1440x900 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 55.92 kHz; pclk: 106.47 MHz
  Modeline 1440x900_60.00  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932  
-HSync +Vsync

Then weigh in and edit my xorg.conf, based on the output identifiers
reported by xrandr. The xorg.conf for my specific monitor follows, but
it took me the best part of half a day to work out enough about this
problem to solve it.

My mother wouldn't stand a chance, even if she could tell perfectly well
what the values of horizontal pixels, vertical pixels and refresh rate
actually were, since it involves manually editing config files in
mysterious and ill-documented ways!

Since the bug/feature request is about the need to avoid manually
editing config files, and I'm providing information about it, I don't
know why you keep re-closing it?

You only gave me an hour to get back to you this time before re-
reporting the bug/feature request as closed. Maybe I don't understand
the status reporting properly, or the nature of the bug and where it
currently is in the system, so forgive me if I'm confusing matters
somehow and let me know how to file this request properly.

Anyway here's the example xorg.conf which could be generated by the
graphical tool from those three parameters to help my mum out. Grandr
already does the Virtual resolution bit automatically just the same way.
What I'm suggesting is adding three fields to the gui tool (in my case
1440,900,60) and an invocation of gtf, followed by an automatic edit of
xorg.conf and a message to re-log-in, just as it does with the Virtual
resolution line.

Section Monitor
Identifier  Configured Monitor
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  VGA
Modeline 1440x900_60.00  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932 
 -HSync +Vsync
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Monitor Configured Monitor
Device  Configured Video Device
SubSection Display
Virtual 1440 1700
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Configured Video Device
EndSection

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
if the xrandr command line doesn't list those modes too the issue is
rather an xorg one, the xrand interface should list some choices which
make sense in such cases, that's not specific to the GNOME GUI

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center = xorg-server
   Status: Invalid = New

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
As you say, with a splitter and multiple monitors attached, this is
beyond X's autodetection capabilities.  It sounds like your request is
to have a functionality in the GUI tool for manually specifying settings
in this case, so I'm reassigning to the GUI tool.

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: xorg = gnome-control-center

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[Bug 260436] Re: Unable to force screen resolution with vtswitch/splitter

2009-03-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
Possibly this is a dupe of 240916

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