[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
** Description changed: in gnome-session-properties 2.13.91-0ubuntu1, there is no way to set the order that startup program will launch. The list items are not drag/drop capable, nor is there a move up/move down button combination on the Startup Programs tab. When Adding/Editing a startup program, there is no option to specify a starting order (used to have a number fiedl defaulted to 50 in breezy). On top of this, the order I add startup programs in isn't maintained. If I add mail-notification, compiz, and gnome-window-decorator, the next time I log in they will be listed in this order instead: compiz; mail-notification; gnome-window-decorator. So it's not even resorting them in alphabetical order! But it does re- arrange them into the same order every time. + + See also bug 148605. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 Title: no way to set order of startup programs To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-session/+bug/32194/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
This solution worked for me: when you add programs to load at startup (from startup applications) some *.desktop files will be created at ~/.config/autostart. Now in order to change the startup order, you just need to rename those files (order them alphabetically as you desire). I tried giving them prefixes like 01XXX.desktop, 02YYY.desktop and etc. My problem is now solved but this might not be the total workaround. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
I reported this bug long time ago, maybe it is solved now. On 16/09/10 05:15, Bug Watch Updater wrote: ** Changed in: gnome-session Importance: Unknown = Medium -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
** Changed in: gnome-session Importance: Unknown = Medium -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Comment #37 was meant for Bug #140918 , closing papercut task as it was meant for Bug #140918! ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Low = Undecided ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Triaged = Invalid -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote on dup Bug #462404: Nautilus has an Open With dialog that lists all the applications it knows about. If that dialog is not a standard GTK widget, the first step is to make it a standard GTK widget. (That way Thunderbird could use it for letting you choose which application to open an attachment with, for example, in the same way that it uses the native GTK print dialog.) Then, gnome-session-properties can use the same dialog for letting you choose a startup application. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Triaged -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Thanks for your answer. My problem was to start XCompMgr (composition manager) before the softwares that need it, i.e. Avant Window Navigator. I've solved it by launching the command from the .gnomerc file. As far as I understand, there is a launch order for these launcher scripts (.gnomerc, autostart.sh and so on), so it can be a workaround in some cases. Although a launch order for applications set in Gnome session properties would still be nice to add back. :) -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Note that gnome-session since Intrepid starts the session in phases, with the phase being specified in the autostart desktop file for the application. By default, Compiz is started in the windowmanager phase, which means that it is guaranteed to be running before anything else that starts in the later phases (panel, desktop, applications). That means the Compiz issue mentioned earlier is not an issue in Intrepid or Jaunty, as Compiz is guaranteed to be started before anything else. Most things start in the application phase, including any launchers you add with gnome-session-properties. There is currently no way to specify the order in which applications start within any particular phase. The only thing that is currently guaranteed is that all applications starting in one phase will be started before the next phase starts. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
The order column in the session preferences of Hardy is only informative. Although I change it, to close the Properties window, returns to its original value. It's useless, so I presume they have deleted. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
I have to agree with terzag on this one, this is semi-important since if a user takes advantage of the put plugin in compiz, it has no effect if the program mentioned in the put plugin is started before compiz. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
I'm using Intrepid (with Gnome) and looking for a way to set priorities / order for the programs started at the beginning of the session. It seems the option existed before Dapper, was dropped for some reason and reappeared later (I've been told there's an order column in the session preferences of Hardy). Why has this functionnality been dropped (once more ?) and is it planned to be back some day ? Or is there some other way in Intrepid to set an order for programs started at the beginning of the session ? The problem still exists in current Jaunty alpha but I guess it's normal as it still has mainly the same Gnome applications than Intrepid. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Will be there a fix in Gutsy? Why isn't there an order option? -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
No, that's not going to change in gutsy now. There is no such option because nobody coded one, you are welcome to do so though the code is open source ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Wishlist Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
On my ubuntu 7.04 the gnome-session-properties is sorted by the Name given to the session entry. Changing the name changes the sort (so you could perpend a numeric entry to force a sort. The files created are stored in: ~/.config/autostart and follow the desktop entry spec: http://standards.freedesktop.org /desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Encoding=UTF-8 Name=No name Name[en_US]=gnome launch box Exec=gnome-launch-box -n -t X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true I will check if changing the sort by altering the entry Name actually changes the launch order. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Well it seems that all entries are executed simultaneously, the sort order currently does not have any effect on execution order. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
I'm using Tribe 5 and there is no way to manage the order of startup programs. What are you talking about? -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
I don't know if the order of load is correct, but at least, you can set the programs you want to load... El sáb, 01-09-2007 a las 13:20 +, Jacob D'Agostino escribió: I'm using Tribe 5 and there is no way to manage the order of startup programs. What are you talking about? __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y m�es desde 1 c�imo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
You can check or uncheck specific programs, but you can't move them up or down in the list. I've got a little script that automatically unlocks my gnome keyring for me, but I need to run it before NetworkManager (or else it bugs me for the password anyway to use my WPA key). There's no way to change it so that my script runs first. In fact, unless it's just a really weird coincidence, the programs are listed in alphabetical order. What? Why? That makes *no* sense. Should I file a bug report upstream? -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Finally, will there be a graphical way to set order of startup programs? If not, what should I do to set the startup order? -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
This bug is solved in tribe 5, now you can manage your startup programs in the order you want graphically. Alberto. G. Christ escribió: Finally, will there be a graphical way to set order of startup programs? If not, what should I do to set the startup order? __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y m�es desde 1 c�imo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
I understand there is a sleep workaround, but what if I want to be sure one of my applications starts before all other ones? -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
here is a simple workaround,for me beryl-manager has to start before gdesklets otherwise it will crash so make a shell script like #!/bin/sh beryl-manager sleep 10 #make sure that beryl-manager has started gdesklets start and put this in the startup -- no way to set order of startup programs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/32194 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
The proposed workarounds are not even short-time solutions, as there are multiple side effects of the missing startup order. From my bug report (marked as duplicate): Especialy the notification area is much to late available, causing different effects: - kadu (KDE gadu-gadu IM client) doesn't start in the tray, but shows its icon on the desktop - gaim starts in window mode and not minimized as configured - different notifies (network manager, power manager, updates) are shown at various inconsistent places / corners Is there a way to push the upstream developers / upstream priority? -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Le lundi 27 novembre 2006 à 10:38 +, Nikolaus Filus a écrit : Is there a way to push the upstream developers / upstream priority? Probably by sending a patch. You can't force people hacking on their free time to do work they don't want to do, the best way is to make the job easier for them -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
** Changed in: gnome-session (upstream) Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
** Changed in: gnome-session (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
gnome bug #336719 was marked duplicate of gnome bug 330693. ** Changed in: gnome-session (upstream) Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #336719 = GNOME Bug Tracker #330693 Status: Rejected = Unknown -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
** Bug 56122 has been marked a duplicate of this bug -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Maybe (actually, now that I think of it, probably) the programs are started in parallel rather than in sequence. In that case, being able to order them really doesn't make much sense. Documenting the fact that you can add a sequence of commands like Thilo mentioned (program1 program2) is probably the best short-term solution to this bug - though adding UI for it would be even better of course :). -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
For those of you who suffer i have a workaround. in the tab Startup Programs enter the program you like to start like this: sleep 3 /usr/bin/klipper and with amount of seconds you can force them to start in the order you would like to have them. I use the above example to klipper after the notification area is started. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
Thank you for the comments, I've forwarded the issue upstream: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336719 Is the ordering something useful? ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #336719 http://bugzilla.gnome.org//show_bug.cgi?id=336719 ** Also affects: gnome-session (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org//show_bug.cgi?id=336719 Severity: Unknown Priority: Unknown Status: Unknown -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 32194] Re: no way to set order of startup programs
One of the many threads on how to setup xgl/compiz involved adding items to the Startup Programs in a specific order. Also, having the network monitor applet start before network related items would make sense. -- no way to set order of startup programs https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/32194 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
