[Bug 32643] Re: [Bug 32643] Failure to 'get it'.

2006-06-23 Thread John Dong
Charles,

The trade-off for mounting USB devices sync would be faster wear and tear on
the drive, along with applications hanging for longer periods of time while
trying to write data.

Even operating systems that mount sync (Linux OR Windows or whatever) do not
make it safe to yank out USB devices. That still leaves the possible of
corrupted filesystem metadata structures -- I've interned at the IT desk for
a large company before and I've personally seen cases (multiple) on windows
XP where FAT32 thumb drives were unrecoverably corrupted due to improper
removal.

Mounting 'sync' does exactly what XP tells you: Optimize for quick removal.
In other words, the "unmounting" (safely remove hardware) option executes
faster, but you still have to do it. Never ever is it safe to yank thumb
drives out of systems -- windows or linux. Just because you got away with it
before doesn't make it safe!

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[Bug 32643] Failure to 'get it'.

2006-06-23 Thread gizbot
Sorry, I was unclear.

On every non-unix device, USB keys and drives are updated as soon as
possible.  There is never a several minute delay before data is written.
No unmount, no file browser, it just works.

If I loose data in my checkbook program (KMyMoney), then Ubuntu and not
the user is broken.

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[Bug 32643] Failure to 'get it'.

2006-06-23 Thread gizbot
I read the comments here and the crosslinked bugs.

While many people are being helpful.  I think you fail to 'get it'.

Right now, USB drives are catastrophically broken.  A user saying "you
can't use USB devices on Ubuntu" are correct.

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