[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled
I believe I know the problem here, and why this has persisted for so long despite apparently works for me -- it only occurs on fresh installs, and only before a first apt-get update is run. Similar issues occur with clicking apt-url links -- there's no cache, and so no record of any package in the cache, and so it fails. To fix this we need to ensure at least one apt-get update is run very early after install time...or during install time. -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled
User tests confirm this is live in a fresh install of Karmic. If the first thing you do is try to open a restricted codec gnome-codec-install will fail. Going to Software Sources and checking that everything is checked will fix the problem. -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled
** Summary changed: - Codec manager does not find bad codecs + Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs when universe is not enabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
This is actually a bug rather than a design flaw. The gnome-codec-install is supposed prompt ,but is not . Hence not a papercut ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
I can also observe this behaviour in Karmic Koala, alpha 4 release. It is certainly confusing to a new user. Any plans to fix it? -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
I didnt notice this bug earlier , But I had started a bug to cover all the different codecs Bug #405155 If the others agree, then the papercut task here can be closed and dealt in Bug #405155 to cover all user scenarios. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
Universe should be enabled by default, methinks. If the user doesn't want universe packages we can keep doing what we're doing already - hiding the universe packages inside App Install. -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
I'm working right now so I'm not able to check at the moment, but I don't think that universe is initially enabled - only main and restricted. (I originally only looked in the System Administration Software Sources sense, and though I assumed this just parses the sources.list when started and is thus the same, I suppose it is entirely possible that at some point they are not properly synced.) I'll check to make sure later on today. When changes are made within Software Sources, it certainly does update the sources.list. When selecting All Open Source applications in Add/Remove Applications, the Enable the installation of community maintained software? dialogue appears only if Universe is disabled in sources.list. Upon selecting Enable, the change is propagated to sources.list. As I said, whether the codecs are found is dependant on whether Universe is activated in sources.list, which, it seems to me, should not be the case. Is this an incorrect assumption? -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
To confirm: I just checked, and universe is indeed _not_ initially enabled in sources.list (and thus also in SystemAdministrationSoftware Sources) Should the Codec installer be searching Universe when its not enabled? Right now it is not. Or should the popup message displayed when trying to open media in Totem be changed to not say The search will also include software which is not officially supported. when it isn't true? While I would prefer to have the search include Universe packages, regardless of the sources.list, it seems to me that one of these two things needs to change. Thoughts? ** Attachment added: /etc/apt/sources.list from my freshly livebooted Jaunty system http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25870463/sources.list -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
It seems likely to me that this is caused by the same root problem as #363594 -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
...sorry, submitted that comment too soon...(no comment editing...grumble grumble) My point was, Michael, that if I disable Universe repo, and try playing the stream provided by Gabriele, it doesn't find any codecs (No packages with the requested plugins found when trying to play that stream. The requested plugins are: Advanced Streaming Format (ASF) demuxer) With Universe enabled, however, it finds gstreamer0.10 -plugsin-ugly as it should. This is a regression, at least from 8.04 (I don't have an 8.10 disc on hand to test), and is pretty problematic for new users. Given that the universe repository is disabled by default, the installer won't find most (all?) required codecs without fiddling around with exactly the type of administrative tool that this package was designed to avoid. I suppose what I'm trying to say (in an admittedly round-about way) is that it seems to me this bug (as well as bugs 351130 and 363594 which both appear to be essentially duplicates) should probably have higher than Medium priority, and should really be fixed for Jaunty final, if at all possible. Gabriele, Scott, could you please test if enabling the Universe repository (SystemAdministrationSoftware Sources then check Community Maintained Open Source Software) causes the relevant codecs to be found? If so, and these really are all caused by the same root problem, we should probably file a new meta-bug, and mark these three as dupes. Cheers! -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
I thought universe _was_ enabled by default (in the sources.list sense), it was just that Applications-Add/Remove didn't display universe packages by default -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
I just tried this with some freely available xvid videos. It works ok for me, if you have links (or could the videos that fail available for me privately) I'm happy to have a second look. -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 349607] Re: Codec manager does not find bad codecs
I had problems trying to open this url: http://www.streamsolution.it/onair/radiobruno.asx with totem (and mozilla-totem as well obviously) -- Codec manager does not find bad codecs https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/349607 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
